Because of who he pissed off.
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And he takes their money and uses it to have sex with skanks.
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I agree and the same goes for a considerable chunk of women.
I found a traditional woman (by luck) that fell head over heals for me. She still works (she has her own business in something she loves), but her work is secondary to the childrenās and family needs. Low body count, smart, beautiful, and then there is me 
But she sees the exact same thing you post about in many modern young men, which is NOT attractive to females in any way. The coddling, the feminization, the lack of integrity, lack of spine, lack of what a man should be - a protector / leader but also a servant.
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Good to hear!
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And go crazy in their late 30ies/early 40ies because desirable men in the same age bracket are either married or looking for someone 10-15 years younger. Start giving surnames to their dogs, joining a cult - the usual stuff.
Thereās a market for āprofessional girlfriendsā that are 18 to twenty something. Thereās a very niche market for middle aged professional divorcees looking for step dads for their three kids from previous relationships (you have to give birth to his child to try to keep a guy).
Middle-class women who opt for single motherhood are usually in for a rude awakening. No amount of state effort/or family can substitute a partner.
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I think this accounts for the vast majority of it.
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That should be a shoe brand.
āSkankz! For the girl on the go!ā.
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I believe all these factors feed off each other. Generally speaking men arenāt going to improve, produce, or invest in a system that doesnāt give them a stake in the future.
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Spot on. 
Re: who Andrew Tate pissed off.
I think he pissed office the leftist establishment.
And he did that by pointing out or poking fun at some things, as @Andrewgen_Receptors said.
I havenāt viewed much of his content because I cannot tolerate much of it, but from what I saw, he raised the following issues.
- Inflated hypergamy
- Misandry
- Gynocracy/matriarchy
- Female anti-social behavior
- Anti-natalism
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I donāt know how far it went though. The influence of social media influencers is exaggerated. Itās like Twitter; a few Tweets is turned into some movement. Even so called journalists will quote Tweets as if they are significant. Think about an athlete like Lionel Messi. It wouldnāt be far fetched to say at least one billion people know who he is. How many people watch the World Cup or the Super Bowl? How many people watch those Marvel movies that rake in over a billion dollars? Tate is not getting close to those numbers.
Remember Milo Yianopolis? He was like Tate but where is he now? He pissed off some college students, was on TV, wrote books, was on social media, but what influence did he end up having? Maybe an influence on Tate but Milo is basically non existent now. These people just arenāt as big as the media would have us believe. Elon Musk can influence the stock market, thatās real power and influence.
With the way you laid it out, I wouldnāt either.
Women have upped their Life game while a lot of men are playing Call Of Duty.
That doesnāt mean that the problem is women in my eyes. It means that men are going to have to quit relying on birthright, other imaginary principals (its a mans job/world/thing and āthats womans workā type shit) that arent substantiated with action, and start Being men.
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A lot of the āmenā I see complaining about the difficulty of āgettingā a woman are doing exactly this. I wouldnāt even want to be friends with many of these dudes, let alone trust them to provide for a family and hopefully actually treat me/children well (in an emotional sense, not just physical).
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He was a gimmick. A gay conservative in a world that had never heard of such a thing!
Smart, articulate and very quick on his feet, but a gimmick none the less. When the shock and novelty wore off, he was done.
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Romania is far more traditional than the US. Romania doesnāt have identity politics or gender ideologues.
He pissed off the Romanian government by talking about how corrupt Romania is i.e "I can do whatever I wantā¦ Iāll just pay a bribeāā
He isnāt particuarly strange if you look into the archetype of an indivudual with antisocial personality disorder. He may ACTUALLY be a psychopath.
@Andrewgen_Receptors Tate wasnāt arrested on baseless charges either. Tate was arrested by the Roman Intelligence Service (fbi equivalent). To justify a raid, due process through the courts is requiredā¦ and itās a HELL of a process.
They had evidenceā¦
So I have an issue with this.
For incelflation (great word btw, I like it) to be largely mediated by no-fault divorce around the worldā¦ ease of divorce would have to be a unanimous sociocultural implementation.
This is not the case. While some countries might theoretically have no fault divorceā¦ when it actually comes to getting a divorce the process takes 6-12 months or longer and you must prove the relationship was irreconcilably damaged.
In the USA it takes 3 months or longer to get a divorce; however, the USA allows couples to get divorced ājust becauseā whereas in Australia, most of Europe, UK etc you must prove the relationship is broken beyond repair. āFalling out of loveā is an accepted reason, however the gazillion hoops you need to jump through to get divorced incentivises a couple to try make it work. Extensive Marriage counselling is also mandatory in Aus before a divorce can be finalised.
As to the courtsā¦ you are looking at America again. Custody, assets etc. The dynamic is not the same all over the world. American divorce rates are higher than AUS and most of Europe, but only marginally so.
I believe the āhollywood effectā also factors into high divorce rates. Many donāt realise that the PERFECT partner doesnāt exist. There will be highs and lows in a relationship, and an arguement here or there will occur. If you are having kidsā¦ chances are your wife is going to pack on some weight because going through pregnancy, giving birth and raising a child (even with support) is a rough gig. Life is not a rom-comā¦
Whatās more, constant sense of division and sociocultural tension omnipresent in the USA is for the most part limited to the USA IF we refer to western countries as our poimt of reference.
Australia, the UK, Eastern and Western Europe arenāt bothering with āthe culture warsā. PC culture seems largely confined to the US, yet Tate still has a following in the UK, Europe, Aus etc. He has that āJames Bondā, lavish lifestyle image going for him. Very effective marketing strategy, young men flock to him.
āleftā or ārightā wing politics arenāt what make or break a country. Much of Europe is doing well, including countries with a good deal of diversity i.e makeup of Netherlands is similar to USAā¦ however Netherlands is in a far better place, consistently ranked as one of the best countries you could live in
I think poverty, rising costs of living and sociocultural norms play a large role here. USA is a strange country due to itās motto that encourages radical individualism. Very few countries aside from the USA advocate an approach that is more centred on the indivudual than the community as a whole.
Iām not talking about communism or socialism eitherā¦ just basic commodities like healthcare, rent, welfare for the legitimately disabled etc. In America the attitude is āeat or be eatenā, āhow can I get a leg up?ā, āhow does this benefit ME!ā
Canāt blame an American for thinking this way considering the fundamental American sociocultural archetype encourages this pattern of thinkng.
From birth you are volitionally taught to adhere to radical individualism (I advocate for middle ground). Radical individualism is alienating, isolating and leaves no room for support if one encounters bad circumstances beyond their control. Community based security alongside community derived peer to peer relations frequently break down at the hands of radical individualism.
In countries or neighborhoods with tightly knit, friendly communities youāll frequently find married couples that met through community orientated activities.
I doubt the single moms prefer this situation
No one NEEDS a partner, but it makes life a hell of a lot easier if you plan on having kids. Many single parents (be it fathers or mothers) wind up exhausted and burnt out as they live paycheck to paycheck and/or have zero lesiure time.
Iāve seen you mention young people should be settling down to have families. @BrickHead how young are we talking? Furthermore, what is the justification for people having kids at younger ages as opposed to an age where maternal mortality rares are low (21-35) + financial stability has been attained (meaning 25-35).
I can print out study after study after study (spanning over many decades) showcasing couples who have children below the age of 25 (married or not) consistently score higher on depressive scores, score lower in the department of financial instability etc
For those who have children below the age of 21, giving birth is high risk. Child may be born underweight, risk of perinatal death is high, much higher chance of child being born intellectually disabled alongside otherwise abnormal brain development being presentā¦ also higher risk of growing up in poverty or suffering from mental illness
Thatās just the baby, and from an epidemiological perspective outcomes for the child are much poorer if the mother is 25 or below, with the biggest hike in risk being 21 or below.
The definition of adolescent has recently been expanded within a number of scientific communities to include ages 21-25. Most change dramatically between ages 18-25ā¦ even 21 and 25 is a big difference. There are outliers for which brain development will finish earlier
But when you are young pre-frontal cortex development is still occuring. This controls mood, emotional regulation, impulse control. Adults predominantly think using the prefrontal cortext, a portion of the brain responsible for modulating mood, emotional regulation, thoughts and actions.
People below the age of 21-29 (25 is the norm for brain maturation) process and respond to information throuth the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala. The latter isnāt typically used for decision making in adults. When it comes to rational thought processing, the amygdala is responsible for identifying and responding anger, fear, and sadness. The amygdala also mediates ones response to aggression, and plays a large role as to how/when we percieve threatening or fear inducing stimulus.
The brain of a young adult isnāt firing in the same capacity relative to that of a fully grown adult.
This message is long, however I want to know where the justification/rationale is for your level of confidence in your hypothesis.
Why is it better to have kids at 18-19-20 as opposed to 25-30? @BrickHead
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He could influence the price of cryptocurrency through a TWEET!
There is a continuum. Of course Andrew Tate doesnāt have the influence of Elon Musk. That doesnāt mean heās not influential to a considerable amount of men. He has several million followers on Twitter and has fans all over. Iāve even read on Reddit womenās stories of Andrew Tateās and even that Manospherian Richard Coperās negative influences on men ruining relationships and marriages. Ordinary people do not have such influence, and considering the aforementioned, thankfully some donāt.
Two of my co-workers have mentioned him, including a woman. I once overheard two gym bros talk about him regarding goal setting.
Several times in this thread there has been an appeal to extremes with money and influence. In this appeal, there are only extremes. For example: people with tens or hundreds of millions arenāt rich; only billionaires are rightfully considered rich.
You forgot the āadvocated for adult men to have sex with 13 year old boysā part. Maybe thatā was too much?
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I have no clue what is a specific best age. Nor am I someone who wants to dictate what everyone should do. And Iām not even someone who married and had children at what I consider preferable or ideal ages.
Education and training usually takes place from eighteen to 21 years old, so thereās no way men can reasonably be expected to
marry so young.
What I do know is that having excesses of checked-out men and single, childless women are societal burdens.
Iāve already spoken to you about cognitive development and I mentioned my surprise that young women can study advanced math and sciences, law, engineering, medicine and work as nurses, accountants, and marketing executives, and so on, operate machines, have sex with who they please, study abroad, galavant around the world, drink, etc., (all this adult decision making involving judgment, intelligence, and foresight) yet amazingly cannot feed, bathe, educate, and bathe babies and young children due to incomplete brain development.
So young women have agencyā¦ but they donāt have agency.
Obviously I donāt buy it. My grandmother was pregnant with my mom at eighteen and thatās not unusual for many of our ancestors. My mom and her siblings werenāt starved and abused. Neither were millions of others. Not too long ago women in their 20ās had husbands, homes, and two to three children. But also, most men in their 20s back then werenāt clowns either.
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That was awesome .