Well I don’t think there were any laws not allowing your parents and grandparents to attend college…was it “oppression” or just being poor?
No, I just don’t need to repeat what those who I do agree with say, and you’re one of the ones I sometimes disagree with who actually says interesting things. And I think I actually agree with you on things more than you would imagine. I’m definitely pretty traditional when it comes to gender roles/sex, stuff like that, although my faith/life experiences have an influence on how I end up thinking about things.
This is a random question, but what do you refer to yourself as? Do you consider yourself white, or is Jewish the answer you’d have if someone asked you, “What are you?”
I was talking to some women the other day who didn’t consider Jews to be white. There was nothing malevolent about the conversation - I just had been under the impression that a fairly light-skinned man was Native, when I found out he wasn’t, I asked if he was white (as opposed to Hispanic or something) and the (Native) women said no, he’s Jewish.
Jewish, not white, and my family would respond the same. My mom was born in Cuba, has the maiden name Perez, and speaks Spanish. Her parents and grandparents were born in Poland and Turkey. But none of them would say they were or are Poles, Spaniards, or Turks either.
I’m sure there wasn’t and I don’t see how someone saying a Jew isn’t white is malevolent. But ya never know.
I’m likely gonna gonna back to topic, and related topics (marriage, dating, sexual revolution) of the thread with future posts in here. I’ve contributed to this massive derail.
Oh you know, conversations about Jews can always veer off into dangerous territory, haha. Never quite know what the person you’re talking to really thinks.
I hear “Are you Jew’ing me” very frequently from people who I don’t think are truly anti-Semitic, but just use phrases like that without giving much thought to what they’re saying.
I think talking about a country is different from talking about a race of people. Heck, I think talking about cultures is different from talking about a race of people(but I believe the two are often conflated).
To be fair… if you do a myheritage DNA analysis, “Jewish” comes up as a distinct ethnic subtype. Someone can see if you are jewish through looking at your DNA provided you were born jewish.
To my knowledge the same can’t be said for christianity, Catholicism. Judaism is considered both a race and a religion
Racial classification goes beyind skin tone. Jews can be white, brown or even black.
If someone asks me what my race is… I say “Jewish”.
True.
Another example is the Italian immigration wave of the late19th and early 20th centuries to Brazil, Argentina, and the USA.
White in Brazil and Argentina, not white in America (baack then).
Is that a common question in America? I ask out of curiosity, I am aware that Americans like to fit everything in tight little boxes, but seems like such an odd thing to ask.
I went to school on a U.S. Army base in Germany and was asked frequently by American kids. It was pretty diverse and people wondered who was “like” them.
In my day to day life it doesn’t come up super often but sometimes. I was once asked in a GNC store because they wanted to be sure of my ethnicity before recommending a protein powder (sounds ridiculous at first but it ended up being a helpful question).
This is not all from trying to fit things in boxes. I lived for 37 years in Queens, NY, which is one the most diverse counties in the country, maybe the world. It is not uncommon for a hospital to have a board in the lobby with fifteen languages. I work in healthcare, and healthcare workers deal with the public daily, obviously. So if people are routinely dealing with people out and about or at work, and cannot understand them, aren’t familiar with their accents, cannot pronounce their names, or has a look they are unfamiliar with, they’re gonna wonder, “where’s this guy/women from?” Or, “what kind of name is that?”
There have been many times in meetings I’ve attended in which coworkers botch residents’/patients’ names, especially Slavic ones, and might need to know who can translate or what language needs to be used in a translation hotline.
It is and in the past it was more likely to be for nefarious reasons because not all Americans are seen as American. That’s how you end up with internment camps for Americans who were considered more Japanese than American.
The irony is that the woke people also ask that question because they too want to stereotype people so they can assign them the proper privilege ranking. Americans can’t just be Americans even though that’s how the rest of the world sees them.
In Europe I believe where are you from is the more popular question and not what are you.
It is a common question. I’ve had a different experience. I’ve been told I don’t sound like I am from the midwest (lived in MN my whole life). Locals ask if I am from the west coast (usually California). When visiting the south people ask if I am from Norway or Canada. I think Norway on how I look, and Canada based on accent. I haven’t been asked where I am from when visiting west or south west.
I guess for me the difference is they ask if I am specifically from a certain area, vs asking me where I am from.
But also, because of the various languages spoken in Europe, you can usually figure out someone’s origins, at least national origins, by the language they speak or their accent when speaking another language. Even within countries people can tell what region you are from based on accent when speaking the so called official version of the national language. You can easily tell the Argentine from the Spaniard when they speak Spanish. The Belgian from the Frenchman when they speak French.
@startingagain hey, I didn’t forget about answering your question and following up in here regarding where we were going in the other thread regarding the current culture. I aim to follow up on what I say I’m going to do (even in recreational things like posting) but I’ve been busy and my motivation for posting and then following up on posts is lagging. PWI posting isn’t a laid back form of posting like topics on exercise and food and TRT are. Not following up on things weighs on me.
I’ve also had a streak of insomnia this week in which I’ve gotten up way too early and can’t fall back to sleep and wind up hitting the gym or jogging at 5 AM.
I might follow up when enthusiasm returns (it goes up and down with posting). i apologize.