There is a gender gap in happiness regardless of these factors actually. Women are more prone to unhappiness, which is why more women have suicidal thoughts - even though more men commit suicide by numbers. Sorry for getting dark on this, not intending to derail into that mess.
I do believe data supports that married women who stay at home to raise children are the happiest of women, generally speaking; this also plays a bit into what you’re alluding to here.
This look interesting. I’ll likely read it on the weekend.
“ABSTRACT
By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging—one with higher subjective well-being for men.”
So some (who knows how many of the total female population), are unhappy being “barefoot and pregnant” but also unhappy working, traveling, socializing, voting, serial dating, and having fun.
Perhaps they are just like men and are never happy.
Or maybe some of them could realize, like I did, that they might be happier with a lower paying but lower stress job that allows them to focus on other things (like family).
I dunno, but I was never happy or a good partner, a good parent, a good friend, when I was whiped, overwhelmed and stressed with responsabilities and way too much to worry about. Best thing I ever did was to step down and take it easier.
Tell me about it. I have had relationships where I feel like I’ve been put in charge of their hapiness. It’s no easy task.
How did we even get there? We go from Pope Pius XI arguing for the subjection of women to their husbands to this now. I see women cheating and somehow it’s their husband’s fault, 'cause he didn’t “take care”.
We go from women having no rights to having no responsabilities.
Even Hollywood is pushing this.
I saw a movie recently, the Aftermath, about a British colonel who is sent to Hamburg, along with his wife, to help rebuild the shattered city. They stay in a requisitioned house of a German architect.
I mean, it’s not like the British guy is spending his days smoking bongs and playing Call of Duty in the basement. Well his wife fucks the kraut and it’s her husband’s fault for working instead of being there for her. Thank God he realized in the third act how foolish he had been and they lived happily forever. I’m sure being a cuckold back then earned him plenty of respect.
It’s fucking ridiculous and the fact that people even take this crap seriously makes me scratch my head.
Imagine a movie where a guy cheats on his wife because she won’t give him the booty and in the end she realizes what a fool she has been and gives him the booty…mmh..you know what, I think I’ve seen a movie like that, but not from Hollywood.
All of this to say, no wonder this Tate douche became so popular.
Well, this response went off on a tangent that I didn’t expect.
I’ll comment on the lack of responsibility we (men and women) share in the western world. Parts of the manosphere comment on the lack of responsibility women have, in detail. I agree with some parts of it, but it often comes off as women hating - even when worded carefully.
Most people don’t accept responsibility for their actions. Men, often, do not have a choice BUT to accept that responsibility - or at least punishment. Women do quite often have ‘outs’ that allow them to not take responsibility for their actions; massive proportions of men allow these ‘outs’ as well, so if anything - we should be pointing the finger at ourselves first.
He’s an ass, but he does talk about taboo subjects and brings up some pretty good points on occasion. It’s tough to get people to listen to this subject matter because it’s complicated and uninteresting; a flamboyant personality can certainly draw a crowd to this.
I’ve often said on here and in regular irl conversation- People don’t want freedom, they just want to be irresponsible.
You should have seen the shitfest I had to slug my way throughwith the supervisors of the township I live in to get them to even admit or acknowledge that the police in our township are responsible for public safety.
massive proportions of men allow these ‘outs’ as well, so if anything - we should be pointing the finger at ourselves first.
Even my wife says this haha. Most guys will let girls get away with anything, so I can’t blame women at all for taking advantage of it. I know “women don’t take accountability” is a meme, but it’s not true at all in my experience if the guy sets standards for what he’ll accept. And I do not mean standards from the redpill. I’m taking about basic standards set by someone who respects themselves.
Not sure what he meant but a few examples on my end:
Two people get drunk and hook up. The poor woman is not responsible for her actions but the equally drunk man is responsible for his and has to accept the punishment of being a sex offender
The whole Roe V Wade protests were nothing more than women wanting a way to avoid responsibility (pregnancy) of their actions. Meanwhile men have no choice but to accept responsibility and be financially accountable.
The irony is that men in the Anglosphere often complain about women and the current sexual market yet support all that makes them womanless, and in many cases poor, imprisoned, and without custody of their children. It’s truly amazing. @hustlinghat93
Men in the Anglosphere have become doormats. Tate knew this and used it to his advantage.
I mean, many men do the exact opposite of this. And there’s often little to no consequences for doing so. That’s why you’ll find guys who are $30k behind in child support. Depending on where you live or perhaps the individual case worker you/your ex works with, you can completely ignore any responsibilities you have and face no repercussions.
My parents separated for a few years. My dad gave my mom money every month, to help take care of her and their five children. She got Medicaid for me and my siblings, and her caseworker needed some information about my dad. She opened an investigation into him, as one would if they were going to start requesting child support. We’re not sure why she didn’t just ask for his contact information from my mom, but after 3 months they ended it because they couldn’t find my dad. He lived 2 miles literally straight down the road from us and was at our house every weekend, but the “government” couldn’t locate him. If my mom had actually been requesting child support, she would’ve been denied due to him not being located. That kind of stuff happens all the time. If a guys wants to be an absent father who provides no type of support for his children, he can often do so, very easily.
To quote Dave Chappelle, “your body your choice, my money my choice”.
Seriously though, you’re right, there should be consequences for being a deadbeat dad.
But I also don’t like that, often, the only “rights” a father gets is to pay alimony, child support, and to move back in with their folks because is house is gone.
Even when they do get shared custody, they sure don’t get shared expenses.
@darnell_becker@jshaving
There are deadbeats who’ve gotten away with being irresponsible. But there are plenty of non-deadbeat, responsible men whose lives have been ruined by the divorce industry.
Have a listen to just the first five minutes here.