Should i remind you what most of us here have in common?
We go to the gym to look different and be treated different. Some might even say “to change people’s perception of us”.
Some don’t, but almost every dude who went to the gym - went there to get bigger arms (at least in the beginning).
Waffle 
Yeet!
Yes, but the product of working out is real and reflects certain positive traits like work ethic, perseverance, resilience, caring about health and having self respect.
Okay? I was making a comment that faulting one for trying to change people’s perception of oneself is unfair to do, and likely hypocritical given the forum we’re discussing this on.
To add to that, I don’t think there is anything wrong with trying to manage how you are perceived.
I am not sure how to word this, but I see a difference between exercising to be fit, strong, muscular (choose adjective), and trying to flex wealth with designer clothes, accessories, or stuff like fancy cars. I think the difference is the former is who you are (or a portion of it), or at least who your person / body is. The latter is the perception of who you are. The former also has benefits outside of perception, which I don’t see for the latter. In fact, I think the latter is detrimental for a lot of people. To quote Tyler Durden “We buy things we don’t need with money we don’t have to impress people we don’t like”.
I think for many people the motivations to be fit, or to give the perception of wealth or style are similar. It’s to gain social status and the benefits that come with that.
I don’t think it is inherently wrong to improve social status though.
I’ll agree with this to an extent. Most of us still choose the clothes we wear for a specific reason - be it perception or utility (some even like perception of utility like TactiCool or whatever it is the Gravy Seals wear).
Wholeheartedly agree.
I think one would actually achieve more social benefit from good selection of clothing than arbitrary muscle. Go to a hotel jacked, but in rags - see how they treat you. Go to the same hotel jacked but in nice clothes - watch the difference.
At any rate, I think not making decisions to improve social status is wasting opportunity. I also don’t think many people can bullshit/credit their way into owning a Bugatti of any kind.
Much of my clothing is from the thrift store. I don’t really see it as not stylish or anything. I don’t pick it out though. My wife comes home with these clothes, and I tend to wear the stuff I like.
I could be totally wrong on this, but I think a good body (subjective, but you know what I mean I think) goes a long ways, as long as you aren’t wearing terrible clothing. In a false dichotomy, I’d take a good body in thrift store clothes (in good condition, and fit well), than out of shape in designer stuff.
A lot of people are not very good at it though haha. Some of the stuff people do for social status just seems gaudy to me.
From a Vogue article on men’s fashion:
No thank you!
Vogue is a woman’s magazine so of course they would push outfits that a heterosexual male would not feel comfortable wearing.
In my pretty extensive experience, the difference when approaching the reception desk of a luxury hotel (I travelled a lot for business) for a check in is the following:
My regular clothes - “you took your time, we called about the broken ACs two hours ago, bring your toolbox to the basement”
Nice clothes - “who’s the VIP that you’re protecting? C’mon, you can tell me”
I guess thank you Dan John and overhead pressing for my jacked shoulders?
Unlikely that Tate is getting released. This is like the third or fourth video i’ve seen of his followers postulating potential release dates.
Here’s what we have to consider
Why would the courts let them go? Especially after Tate has been openly mocking Romanias judicial system for some time.
He’s dug a hole for himself. Even if he is innocent (doubtful), Romania is likely looking to make an example out of him.
There was some talk about potentially putting them on house arrest (not released), but even that has been delayed. I doubt they’ll be let out of custody unless the trial runs it’s course or a guarantee can be made that the brothers won’t try to flee the country.
‘The judge said the “possibility of them evading investigations cannot be ignored” - and added “they could leave Romania and settle in countries that do not allow extradition”.’
This Andrew Tate guy is making me lose faith in social media braggarts.
For those interested, here’s the government public registry (including yearly financial statements) for all UK based companies.
If you enter his legal name “Emory Andrew Tate” (yes, Emory) and related businesses you’ll get a good overview of the man’s finances in the UK (debts to be precise), including the fact that his luxury cars were bought on a loan and that he owes quite a sum for their purchase.
*This is all publicly available info in the UK
Question: Why do we care about his financial status?
I dunno, I guess if people find out that his “$300 million net worth” was easily disprovable BS, maybe there’s a chance that impressionable 16 year olds will somewhat less often recycle his misogynic crap.
Doing some reading, it sounds like he is probably still worth an estimated $50 million.
Going from a kickboxer to a multi-millionaire is quite the leap, and I don’t think people really give a shit about his money - but it does give someone more credibility when someone is worth a large sum of money.
I also think it would be VERY hard to get any financial institution to lend you money to go buy a bugatti without having the ability to pay it back. Too much risk on behalf of the bank, unless the lendee has the capability to pay off said loan.
Just saying that I don’t think harping on his net worth is beneficial; for some reason, that’s the direction this thread started going.
His entire viral success was conditional on him tricking people into believing he has a lot of money.
I’m pretty sure “Hey man, check out this video of a broke pimp giving out advice on how to treat women” wouldn’t result in almost instant internet fame
Is 50 million suddenly not a lot of money? I’ll be lucky if I’m worth 1 million at his age. Mind you, I’m 29, make 6 figures without overtime, and have 2 houses.
I think your dislike of the man is possibly clouding your objectivity?
Edit:
Why is the conversation always about misogyny when misandry is far more prevalent? Let’s not pretend that feminism is anything other than blatant man-hating these days, but we dare not consider cancelling Alyssa Milano or the army of man-haters behind her.
I’m not trying to get into whataboutism; i’m asking why we, as a society, celebrate the attack on manhood and masculinity, but defend these legitimately sexist ideologies.
Romanian lawyer’s take.
Self-snitching, disrespect for Romanian society, likely will go to trial, likely to get convicted of something.
