[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:[quote]Tiribulus wrote:[quote]Brother Chris says: You must be really smart.[/quote][quote]Mak answers: Not in the slightest,[/quote]I just wanted to momentarily highlight this rare and commendable flash of personal honesty on Mak’s part. [/quote]Unlike you, I’m not that full of myself.[/quote]Oh knock it off. I’m jist goofin on ya.
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No Tirib, you’re not.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
How was she crazy, Pat?
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
How was she crazy, Pat? [/quote]
Holy shit, she was nuts… That was before the abortion. She was plain, flat koo-koo, abortion had nothing to do with it.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
You’re either for abortion or against it. If you are for it, you are pro-abortion. The term pro-choice technically doesn’t mean anything, you could be talking about ice cream. If you are for abortion then be proud and definitive of your stance, don’t hide behind silly words or slogans that have no real meaning.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
You’re either for abortion or against it. If you are for it, you are pro-abortion. The term pro-choice technically doesn’t mean anything, you could be talking about ice cream. If you are for abortion then be proud and definitive of your stance, don’t hide behind silly words or slogans that have no real meaning. [/quote]
Exactly, its like being pro-war or anti-war. You either love killing people in other countries or your completely against it in all cases. There is no grey area.
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Exactly, its like being pro-war or anti-war. You either love killing people in other countries or your completely against it in all cases. There is no grey area.[/quote]
Bad analogy.
If every 12yo+ woman could legally declare war, i would be as “anti-war” as i am “anti-abortion”.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]
Exactly, its like being pro-war or anti-war. You either love killing people in other countries or your completely against it in all cases. There is no grey area.[/quote]
Bad analogy.
If every 12yo+ woman could legally declare war, i would be as “anti-war” as i am “anti-abortion”. [/quote]
Now you’re just a sexist misogynist pig. I think all women should declare war if they choose to.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
That’s in the first few pages of the thread. Keep in mind that Kamui’s posts are aren’t long-winded so you can just skim those pages looking for his post without spending much time.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
That’s in the first few pages of the thread. Keep in mind that Kamui’s posts are aren’t long-winded so you can just skim those pages looking for his post without spending much time.[/quote]
Tigertime posted in the first few pages of the thread. He read my posts, and he answered them.
He already know my position of this topic. He just can’t accept that i don’t need a religion to be against the legalization of abortion.
Probably because it doesn’t fit his own stereotypes.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
That’s in the first few pages of the thread. Keep in mind that Kamui’s posts are aren’t long-winded so you can just skim those pages looking for his post without spending much time.[/quote]
Tigertime posted in the first few pages of the thread. He read my posts, and he answered them.
He already know my position of this topic. He just can’t accept that i don’t need a religion to be against the legalization of abortion.
Probably because it doesn’t fit his own stereotypes.
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Did I?
… hold on.
Well I’ll be damned. And here I though the “killing” thread was the first time we’ve ever had a conversation.
But it seems your memory is only slightly better than mine as our short exchange (and I’m talking only-4-or-5-posts-long short) was on the topic of whether or not one could determine the conciousness of another living thing (specifically a fetus/ young child). You never actually told me your position on the matter and honestly I assumed you were pro-choice and simply splitting hairs (rather fine hairs at that). I didn’t read any of your other posts. Actually those are probably the first posts of yours I’ve ever read, at least that I can remember.
As for the matter of my ‘stereotypes’, I would actually prefer that you don’t appeal to God when arguing against legalized abortions. The fact of the matter is, your position is easier to tare apart when you agree to the constraints of logic.
So no, me asking why you oppose abortions is not due to any inability to accept a non-religious answer, just the opposite actually, but that’s a nice jump in conclusions.
If you don’t want to tell me why, that’s fine; However, I do issue the challenge to you to debate me on this topic.
Your move.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
I like how you guys use the term “pro-abortion” as though we go around with coat-hangers pro-actively engaging in ‘feticide’.
It’s telling of your manipulative, emotionally driven argument tactics; but I guess that’s only to be expected from the ‘anti-freedom’ side of the debate. See? I can play games too.
On a more personal level, I was under the impression that you are not religious, so what’s your beef with abortion?[/quote]
You’re either for abortion or against it. If you are for it, you are pro-abortion. The term pro-choice technically doesn’t mean anything, you could be talking about ice cream. If you are for abortion then be proud and definitive of your stance, don’t hide behind silly words or slogans that have no real meaning. [/quote]
Wrong right off the bat. There’s a difference between being always ‘for’ abortion (pro-abortion) and being ‘for’ the woman’s choice (hence, pro-choice).
It’s actually pretty simple so long as you’re not a stubborn jack-ass about it.
I’m “pro-abortion” in the same way you’re “anti-freedom”. Both labels are equally inaccurate. While ‘pro-abortion’ implies I am always in favour of abortion and not simply in favour of the freedom for a woman to choose for herself, ‘anti-freedom’ implies you are always against freedom and not just against a woman’s freedom to chose to get an abortion or not.
If you want to call me ‘pro-abortion’, so be it, but then you have no right to complain when I say you’re ‘anti-freedom’.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
And as I predicted, you continue to ignore the reality of human nature.[/quote]
How do I ignore the reality of human nature? I hold a view of human nature that has been proven to be true for coming on 2000+ years.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Try hanging around people outside your church group sometimes Chris. This is not meant as a slight, it just seems like you’re insulated and need exposure to different types of people.
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I hang out on the biggest college campuses all day for a living. Pretty exposed to different types of people*, but I’ll make sure to hang out with more different people.
However, I’d like to know why you believe that I’m insulated and need exposure to different types of people?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I’m with Raj on the contraceptives and education. Sure, teach the kids abstinence is the best option but also teach the kids that if they’re going to do something stupid, do it smart.[/quote]
I agree. My girlfriend is a pediatrician with a focus on adolescent medicine. Turns out it’s surprisingly hard to get kids to use protection in the first place. “Do you use protection?” “Um… sometimes” That’s the common answer.
I really don’t think abortion is a good excuse for “I’m an idiot and didn’t use protection because I didn’t think I’d actually get pregnant.”
But I also don’t think liposuction is a good excuse for “I’m an idiot and didn’t pay attention to my diet when my doctor told me I should.”
It’s a procedure, and is inherently neither right or wrong. It’s the when/how/why that I have issues with.[/quote]
Lol…what? Just because it is a procedure does not mean that it lacks inherent goodness or badness.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
Yes.
[quote]kamui wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
(personal) Question(s): Has anyone in this thread been involved with a woman/girl who has had an abortion?
Does anyone have any real experience with the subject matter? [/quote]
I haven’t been with any, I have known them though. One was bat shit crazy…[/quote]
And I’m the King of France.[/quote]
Then, your pro-abortion stance is quite excusable.
You just spent 219 years without a head, after all.
[/quote]
lolololol.