The 3rd Law of Muscle

Born cynic. Sorry to ruffle vaginas; but there are too many fanboys on the site to decipher any truly objective review.

The stuff works. It works and if you don’t work hard you’ll be left like a squirrel on meth. For my first workout I was gonna sandwich it with recovery but thought I may have trouble sleeping.

NOExplode is asscrap.

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Thanks Bill!

Three interesting things I’ve noticed.

  1. I seem to be less thirsty round the clock - like it’s providing amazing hydration that lasts - it’s hugely noticeable. I wonder if I’ve been low on electrolytes?

  2. I’ve been noticing a pronounced nootropic effect from this stuff - perhaps it’s the intensity of the workout, but I’m not sure if that explains my level of focus even hours after the workout.

  3. During my sprinting workouts, I can normally judge where I am in my cycle by how elevated my heart beat is - when it’s really thumping against my ribcage, I know I’m nearing limits. However, I’ve had two sprinting workouts on Surge and my heart rate doesn’t get nearly as high. In fact, I hardly notice it at all. Bizarre.
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I’m the opposite. It seems for me, that SWF helps drive intensity thru the roof (for me) that by the end of sets, my heart is beating harder than ever before !!.. I’ve been using SWF for about 6 weeks now, and the heart rate is improving, so i must be getting better in shape. Maybe you ought to try increasing your sprinting workouts, since it seems your body can now take more abuse than it used to. For me, I seemed to automatically was able to increase workload by 10%-30% (depending on what i was doing) but at the time, my heart had a tough time keeping up. Maybe I’m just a pus ! :slight_smile:

Surge Workout Fuel+ restricted calories → Size gains + Fatloss

true story

I just got done with my first workout on Surge Workout Fuel. The burn was less intense but I could still feel my muscles failing. I can’t wait till day 10 rolls round! My heart is still beating pretty fast man! I think I timed intake wrong, because heavy squats were difficult at first and it burned at first. But as they went on, the blood started flowing, and it was like squatting thick air! I think I’m still feeling the KICK from the Surge Workout Fuel!

are there any stimulants in this? caffeine etc?

[quote]Philly wrote:
are there any stimulants in this? caffeine etc?[/quote]

Surge Workout Fuel doesn’t contain caffeine or related stimulants.

I’m sure it’s been stated plenty of times, but I just have to put my opinion on SWOF on here: This stuff is awesome! My work capacity has never been so high in the gym. Anyone who trains hard would be crazy not to use this. I was a bit skeptical at first because there was so much hype, but having used SWOF for the past month, I just don’t think enough can be said about what a solid product this is. Love the Fruit Punch flavor!

Don’t let the label fool you. That ain’t no lizard, it’s a Tyrannosaurus Rex!

I cannot praise Surge Workout Fuel highly enough.

I’ve been doing Charles Staley’s Escalating Density Training, as modified by Mike Mahler for kettlebells.

(I got the program from Mahler’s e-book, but here it is explained over on that other bodybuilding site: EDT + Kettlebells = Major Strength & Size!)

Anyway, I have to say that EDT and Surge Workout Fuel are a match made in heaven. I recorded my progress for about a month before my first tub of the stuff arrived, until about a month after. The results were astounding.

I increased all of my lifts by nearly 25% in about three weeks, whereas it had taken over a month to increase them by 10-15% without Workout Fuel.

What’s different? Well, it’s hard to say. There’s no feeling of increased energy and strength, like I feel on Spike, nor that feeling of clarity and concentration I get when I take Power Drive pre-workout.

What I get on Surge Workout Fuel is the feeling that no matter what I do, I can do more. And I want to do more. A feeling that my heart may explode and my lungs may burst, but damn it, as long as I can get my brain to tell my muscles to keep squeezing out those reps, they will not fail me. And I won’t get sore.

It’s weird. But in a good way.

About ten minutes into the workout, I can feel the beta-alanine kicking in. Tingles like mad. That’s my cue to really start pounding.

In the same two months, my weight went from 174 to 185, and although I haven’t had my body fat tested, I look and feel leaner. I can’t attribute this entirely to the Workout Fuel, because I started using Leucine and Receptormax at the same time. Whatever it is, I like it!

I have to confess, though, that I don’t follow the instructions on the label.

One scoop to ten fluid ounces of water is just too concentrated for my taste. Plus, I sweat like a racehorse and get really thirsty when I train, so twenty ounces an hour just ain’t gonna cut it.

So what I do is add one scoop to twenty fluid ounces of water, and put the resulting pink liquid in a twenty-ounce SoBe bottle (I don’t actually drink SoBe, but I like the bottles).

Two bottles (40 fluid ounces total, 2 scoops of Surge Workout Fuel) are good for one hour, which conveniently is enough to start sipping 15 minutes before my workout and all throughout. Whatever is left at the end of my workout, I mix with a scoop of Grow! Whey, a bit more water, and 10g of creatine. This I chug along with a banana before heading for the shower.

I would hate to have to give up my Flameout, or my Spike, or my Power Drive, or my Z-12, or my REZ-V, or my Creatine, or my BCAAs, or my Beta-7.

But damn it, if I had to choose only one supplement, forsaking all others, for all the days of my life, I would choose this one.

I’m planning on using this product in the summer when i’ll be lifting five time a week, doing sprint/conditioning work three times a week, all while working as a carpenter 30+ hours a week. Needless to say this product looks promising.

Due to my low budget, i have a very limited amount to spend on supps so would this product be better used on the track or in the weight room? Keep in mind that I train with speed as my priority.

[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
I’m planning on using this product in the summer when i’ll be lifting five time a week, doing sprint/conditioning work three times a week, all while working as a carpenter 30+ hours a week. Needless to say this product looks promising.

Due to my low budget, i have a very limited amount to spend on supps so would this product be better used on the track or in the weight room? Keep in mind that I train with speed as my priority. [/quote]

If you have to choose, save Surge Workout Fuel for your most grueling training sessions, regardless of where they take place.

Can Surge Workout Fuel be used for not so much hardcore sports like tennis?

I tend to be a power player who runs around like a friggen cheetah on speed.

If you are having Surge Workout Fuel before during and up to 30 min after your workout then have your post workout meal (1cup oatmeal 2 scoops whey)is it necessary to have Surge Recovery as well. In the directions for Surge Workout Fuel it says to keep sipping up to 30 min after workout. If you do this then eat a meal there is no room or need for Surge Recovery IMO

[quote]Menna wrote:
If you are having Surge Workout Fuel before during and up to 30 min after your workout then have your post workout meal (1cup oatmeal 2 scoops whey)is it necessary to have Surge Recovery as well. In the directions for Surge Workout Fuel it says to keep sipping up to 30 min after workout. If you do this then eat a meal there is no room or need for Surge Recovery IMO[/quote]

Necessary? No, but if you’re training hard you’d benefit from Surge Recovery post workout.

No supplements are necessary, unless you want to get the most from your training.

If funds are tight what supplement would you recomend Surge Workout Fuel or Surge Recovery

(I have a post workout meal within 30min after workout)

[quote]Menna wrote:
If funds are tight what supplement would you recomend Surge Workout Fuel or Surge Recovery

(I have a post workout meal within 30min after workout)[/quote]

Based on the fact that Surge Workout Fuel has done more for my training performance, I’d choose it if I had to pick one or the other.

Prior to Surge Workout Fuel I was never a high-rep guy. For most exercises, the amount of weight I had to drop to get past 10-12 reps was just ridiculous and definitely non-productive.

With SWF, today’s workout, at estimated 70% 1RM, gave 15 reps in the bent row, 18 in the pulldown, and 14 in the Strive Extreme Row, for illustration.

And only two days before, at estimated 65% 1RM, I got 17 reps in the Hammer Strength Iso Row, also 17 in the seated row, and 15 in the ab strap pulldown.

I’ve also recently done 15 reps in the DL at 75% 1RM. (To be clear, the first 10 were with perhaps a half-second rest to reset between reps, and the last five did have rest-pause of about 4 seconds or less between. But still.)

In the past this would have been completely impossible for me. I have no idea how low I’d have to drop weights to get that many reps, but certainly way below 50%.

I have no doubt that SWF substantially increases performance at moderate percent 1RM. (At 85% 1RM and higher I don’t see an increase, and for the increase is considerably less at 80% 1RM but there is still some.)

Pretty amazing really.

I suppose, but do not know, the reason is that previously I was limited by ammonia buildup to shorter durations of hard work than what is now possible.

Would this be beneficial for cycling (say in the realm of 1 to 2 hours)?

Yes, cyclists have been among the athletes using it.

Ok I know I am a bit behind the times but whatever. I have been taking Surge Workout Fuel along with BCAAs for about 2 weeks now. I understand the placebo effect is a real phenomenon but I must say since I have been taking Surge my endurance and strength have improved. For example general my max Bench is 315 x 4, during the second week I have been pushing 315 x 6 and had a 1 rep max of 335. My deadlift max went to 425.

On body resistance days my weighted dips and pullups have been much better endurance wise. for what its worth I have been very satisfied, overkill for me? I dont think so.

I would like to try Poliquin’s method of taking in 40 grams of BCAA during workouts. Does this conflict with taking Surge Workout Fuel during training?

If so, which is more effective (Surge Workout Fuel or 40 grams of BCAA)? Cost is not an issue.

Thank you