[quote]actionjeff wrote:
ok. fair enough
The current plan I’m on calls for some fast acting carbohydrates pre and peri-workout to normalize blood glucose levels and keep them up throughout the workout.
Should I use my SURGE Workout Fuel for this or save it for a rainy day? [/quote]
Surge Workout Fuel will work very well for this.
tried it for the first time today. Workout went about an hour and i used 3 scoops including total started sipping it 15 mins pre workout.
my workout was amazing i hit 3 more reps than the previous week on a 225 max reps bench. Think im going to try to go down to 2 or 2 1/2 scoops due to cost.
Only question i have is should big guys take a little more than the smaller guys? i know 4 scoops is over kill but as a 6’5 265 guy is 3 a good amount?
for anyone who can answer, could i use this during a hockey game or before of after??
[quote]crod266 wrote:
for anyone who can answer, could i use this during a hockey game or before of after??[/quote]
Definitely.
All of the athletes with whom we consult use Surge Workout Fuel during competition.
I’d start drinking it during warm-up and continue until 30 minutes after your last shift.
[quote]HJLau75 wrote:
Let me get this straight.
For athletic competitions i.e. track workouts, basketball, football, soccer. SURGE Workout Fuel should be consumed alone at 1 scoop per 30 minutes.[/quote]
That is what the practical experience has been.
I would change that to, “might consider mixing” instead of “should mix.”
The reasons for doing it would be if wanting to provide macronutrients and calories (yes, I know that’s redundant) towards mass gain at that time.
I don’t know. I would guess the difference if any is small.
Myself, I drink all of each hour’s Workout Fuel at the start of the hour. It is not as if absorption is instant anyhow. And for weight training this works fine. But in an athletic situation there could be a noticeable difference I suppose between sipping and gulping.
Your proposed plan above sort of splits the difference between the “all at once at the beginning of the hour” and “sip throughout” approaches. Since both of those work fine, splitting the difference I would think would have to work fine as well.
I work out first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. I usually have a protein shake 20 minutes before starting the workout. My goal is to increase LBM while also increasing strength. Is it okay to still drink the protein shake 20 minutes before working out and then consume my Surge Workout Fuel at the start of my workout? Or should I perhaps consume the protein drink 30-40 minutes before the start of the workout?
Gotta say I’m LOVING this supplement. And I only had one workout with it so far! It’s not even so much during the workout that I noticed it as much.
But often after a long, grueling workout, I’m exhausted and have trouble being productive if I need to work afterwards. Not so yesterday.
Ya, I love this stuff. One workout so far and I feel great. I started 5-3-1 the other day, today was first day with squats. So I first hit a pr on squats, then went on to do 4x15 on hack squat, 4x20 on leg extensions, 4x15 on leg curls, then 4x15 with weighted sit ups.
I was in between the sets of sit ups when I look at my brother and realize I am not even tired! I felt like I had just showed up to the gym, just a little sweaty. I am lovin this stuff.
my personal experience, I recently put my self, a buddy of mine, and one of my young fighters through one of my favorite conditioning circuts, 30 sprawls, 30pushups, 30 situps, 30 squats, and 30 sprawls with a 1,2 punch on a heavy bag repeated for 3 rnds for time.
I have my fighters do this workout about once a month or so just so see how there conditioning is comming along we have been using this circut for about 8 months so I have a pretty good handle on the rate of improvement in completion time to be expected which is about 3 - 10% a month. How ever I just improved my last time by over 17%. This was using a single serving 1/3 consumed 15 min before the test, 1/3 consumed during, 1/3 consumed during the cool down.
Its worth noting that i felt just as trashed as i always do racing through the circut it felt exactly the same but since you only rest when you can’t keep going any faster, I must have been taking a shitload less rest. 1 piece of data is not proof but now im very curious to see where this goes
A couple of workouts in (Fruit Punch) with WS4SB and I can tell you is that I ‘feel better’ after my workouts.
One other item to note, having used Beta Alanine in the past, I didn’t get the tingling feeling I would normally (not a bad thing, just an observation).
I usually like to get a caffeine buzz before intense workouts. How would you recommend using SWF with caffeine, or would you contraindicate the mix?
[quote]machiajelly wrote:
I usually like to get a caffeine buzz before intense workouts. How would you recommend using SWF with caffeine, or would you contraindicate the mix?[/quote]
Nothing wrong with this at all.
Some of our athletes actually began mixing Spike Shotgun with Surge Workout Fuel on their own for particularly hard and/or long workouts.
You can make some tasty combinations. Just be sure to thoroughly mix Surge Workout Fuel before combining with Spike Shooter or Spike Shotgun. You can also use Spike Double Shot for this purpose.
Wow!
I ordered the Surge combo (Surge Workout Fuel, and Surge Recovery)and can say that at least for me this stuff is unbeleivable!
Saturday 72 hours prior to now I woke up early and did a single scoop of SWF on an empty stomach and premixed a triple scoop shake of the recovery then went in to train. I did remarkably better than usual during my training session and then later that day cut, split, and stacked a bunch of wood. No soreness on Sunday and a little on Monday, but very little.
This morning I drank a double scoop of the SWF on an empty stomach and mixed a 2 scooper of the recovery with a scoop of whey added in for after.
Saturdays workout looked like this…
Standing Military Press -
6 sets of 4 @ 160 lbs
pullups-
6 sets of 6
Dead Lifts-
2 sets of 3 @ 365 lbs
This morning’s workout looked like this…
Standing Military Press -
8 sets of 3 @ 170 lbs
pullups -
8 sets of 6
Dead Lifts -
3 sets of 2 @ 405 lbs
Plyometric pushups -
2 sets of 10
Now a couple of hours later I feel like I could go in again and do more. I’m a beleiver.
I am on the second half of Chad Waterbury’s 30 day mass plan. I did it over a year ago with great success and decided to do it again. I finished the first 10 days and then the following 5 days off. Today was my first day back, “heavy day” but this time I had SURGE Workout Fuel on my side. I do not know if I became more conditioned but I have to say the workout was much easier, did not get winded as easily and on top of all that I was very sick yesterday with a cold and did not think I would be able to perform as well. So overall I have to say I noticed a big difference in my workout, needed much less rest, and felt very strong even though I was sick.
Great stuff, cannot wait to see what it will do for me during the next 9 days on in this routine.
Update: It’s been two weeks since I’ve been taking SURGE Workout Fuel. My close - grip bench went up decently the first time I used it just from the extra energy, the most I could have ever gotten before was 195 or 205 and I hit 215. Now, two weeks later using close grip bench as my ME exercise, I hit 225. In two weeks I’ve had an increase of 20 pounds…not too bad
I am as skeptical as anyone when it comes to supps. A lot of the other expensive supps - not for me. However, I must say that I have given this one a shot and the results are remarkable. I am a believer to the point that I have purchased five tubs of this stuff already.
Be careful if you mix A Spike Shotgun with this stuff. UnFuckin believable. Started with pyramid squats(maxed at 435), sissy squats were next with a 45 pound plate(3sets till puke meter hit) followed by super set of one legged extensions,and 45 degree calf raises( 3 sets) Now the kicker.
While my training partner wasn’t too keen on my idea as a finisher(Hack Squats @ 305 till failure) he agreed. 38 reps non stop!! I still felt great afterwards as he was calling me an asshole. This stuff is the shit and I rarely go ape shit over ANY supp. The hell with all the questions just shut up and buy some! By the way all this was done in 55 MIN!!
FWIW,
I’ve been using it for about 2 weeks now. No “buzz” or bouncing around the gym, but little things starting to get my attention:
*Not feeling wiped at end of workout.
*On last move, I start to think “Time’s running out; I need to do more!” and if, say, we’re doing a biceps move, I’ll alternate it with triceps work; plenty of energy for it.
*Yesterday, doing O-Bar biceps curls, my lifting partner added some weight for the second set, did his set, I did mine; then he started to take off the extra plates. I said “WTF?” He thought the original weight was sufficient, after all; I disagreed, and we stuck with the higher weight. I am accustomed to him being 10-20% stronger than me on everything we do. But yesterday I wanted (at the end of the workout) to keep pushing myself more.
*Monday, woke up feeling burned out and miserable (25 hours spent at work over weekend, due to network troubles); went in and hit a PR on decline bench.
*No soreness after leg days.
The personal anecdotes are adding up. After the first day or two, I didn’t want to rule out the placebo affect. After two weeks and several different workouts, including under some stressful conditions, I’m convinced there’s something to this.
NOW I’m wondering about the notion that it will cause body composition changes. My 1.5-year “bulk” is ending soon, and I want to be in the best possible shape when I turn 50 in May. Hoping this will help in that goal.
Well done, Biotest.
[quote]TShaw wrote:
FWIW,
I’ve been using it for about 2 weeks now. No “buzz” or bouncing around the gym, but little things starting to get my attention:
*Not feeling wiped at end of workout.
*On last move, I start to think “Time’s running out; I need to do more!” and if, say, we’re doing a biceps move, I’ll alternate it with triceps work; plenty of energy for it.
*Yesterday, doing O-Bar biceps curls, my lifting partner added some weight for the second set, did his set, I did mine; then he started to take off the extra plates. I said “WTF?” He thought the original weight was sufficient, after all; I disagreed, and we stuck with the higher weight.
I am accustomed to him being 10-20% stronger than me on everything we do. But yesterday I wanted (at the end of the workout) to keep pushing myself more.
*Monday, woke up feeling burned out and miserable (25 hours spent at work over weekend, due to network troubles); went in and hit a PR on decline bench.
*No soreness after leg days.
The personal anecdotes are adding up. After the first day or two, I didn’t want to rule out the placebo affect. After two weeks and several different workouts, including under some stressful conditions, I’m convinced there’s something to this.
NOW I’m wondering about the notion that it will cause body composition changes. My 1.5-year “bulk” is ending soon, and I want to be in the best possible shape when I turn 50 in May. Hoping this will help in that goal.
Well done, Biotest.[/quote]
Long term, the “not feeling wiped” will do wonders for your cortisol levels. This will reflect with your immunity during the winter months, general well being, and other things.
That’s why this is so important! You can push yourself harder and harder without pushing yourself into sickness or burnout.
I just ordered 2 containers based on all the positive feedback - I am 42 yrs old and workout at 5:00 a.m., work all day then coach sports at night for my kids so needless to say my workouts in the early am lack a lot of energy -
My goal is to lose the fat I have gained (I am 5’9" 212lbs with 18% BF) -I have gained from eating late at night after practice
and my workouts less than full energy just from being tired rolling out of bed at 4:30 everyday. But my kids are only young once!
My workouts will be:
M-W-F -run 2-3 miles then Fullbody workouts then end with some HIIT
Tuesday I will do swimming before work and Thursday I will play basketball for 1 to 1.5 hrs in the a.m.
I plan on taking this supplement only on weighlifting days
Based on what I read I should mix in 3 scoops with 20 oz of water and start sipping 15-20 mins prior to workout then sip remaining 2/3rds throughout - does that soaund right? I want to make sure I maximize the benefit from this supplemnet and achieve my goal by summer -
thanks for the great product