Being an Oly lifter, I think creatine is crucial during my training. I take 5g before, and 5g after (both with half serving Surge recovery).
I take 5g before because Thib mentioned in his Supplementation for Newbies article that taking 5g creatine before training has actually been shown to be more effective. So, I will of course continue to take the 5g after my workout, but how should I take the 5g before my workout when using Surge Workout Fuel?
For instance, I’m thinking of doing this:
~30 minutes before training, 5g creatine by itself in water.
Does this sound like a good plan, because I don’t want to mix my 5g creatine with the Surge Workout Fuel since I’d be sipping on that 5g creatine through the duration of my workout.
Just thought I’d chime in as today was my first day putting the Surge Workout Fuel to the test! I was excited to get started with it.
I’m in the 3rd month of Cressey’s Maximum Strength program so the workouts have been quite grueling. Today included speed/jump squats, heavy rack pulls, reverse DB lunges from a step, etc.
I must say that today’s session was awesome! I felt great, moved some good weight around and really felt “focused”. I did more weight on the exercises (not because of the Workout Fuel but because it was time to increase weight) but my sets and reps were solid and I wasn’t completely wiped out like I normally am. And I didn’t yawn or even think of yawning once! This may seem dumb but those who wake up at 4:30 to train know what I’m talking about!
One thing I did notice as well is that I wanted to keep working! Either that, or hang out and look at girls but it was time to hit the shower and go to work!
Anyway, after day number 1 - I’m very pleased!
And no, I’m not paid by Biotest. Wish I were, I buy enough supps!
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
Being an Oly lifter, I think creatine is crucial during my training. I take 5g before, and 5g after (both with half serving Surge recovery).
I take 5g before because Thib mentioned in his Supplementation for Newbies article that taking 5g creatine before training has actually been shown to be more effective. So, I will of course continue to take the 5g after my workout, but how should I take the 5g before my workout when using Surge Workout Fuel?
For instance, I’m thinking of doing this:
~30 minutes before training, 5g creatine by itself in water.
Does this sound like a good plan, because I don’t want to mix my 5g creatine with the Surge Workout Fuel since I’d be sipping on that 5g creatine through the duration of my workout.
Thanks.[/quote]
I usually mix my creatine in with some green tea and sip on the way to the gym.
Alright so my SURGE Workout Fuel came in the mail on Friday, yesterday. I went ahead and sipped two scoops with 20 oz. water before and during my workout.
I have to say as someone who was very skeptical of this product I was VERY pleased. I felt very energized and it was not the placebo effect. I gave it to my training partner who thought it was Surge Recovery like we normally drink and he told me near the end of the workout that he wasn’t tired at all and had a lot more energy.
My front squats felt great, and today there is no soreness in my legs after front squats, rack pulls and bulgarian split squats (thanks Eric Cressey) My reccomendation for this stuff is that you dont need it, but if you can afford it.s. . . it works great, but I would suggest only using it on high intensity days.
I am using it only on my lower body and deadlifting days and that seems to work since those are the days when my muscles become the most sore. THANKS GUYS this product is great
I had my first “fueled” workout this morning. I’m in the second week of Waterbury’s Hybrid Hypertrophy. I decided to leave the workout unmodified and see how I felt.
I hold myself to strict rest intervals and found myself ready to start before the interval was complete throughout my workout - that’s unusual. I hit PRs on both rack pulls and squat reps inside the rack pull sets. On the squats, I felt like I could just keep going, though I normally struggle on endurance on higher rep sets.
Right after the workout, I had to drive one of my kids’ friend home and I felt incredibly energetic post workout and was thinking about going back for more. That’s really unusual for me.
I would say that it performs as advertised for me.
After months of anticipation I finally received Surge Workout Fuel. I mixed up 2 scoops of the Lemonade flavor and began sipping 20 mins before my training session. In my opinion the flavor was incredible. Definitely something I will look forward to drinking.
I performed a 10 min warmup and then an hour long workout. I’m currently in phase 2 of Thibs Building the Beast program. This phase is mainly geared towards strength as the session consisted of isometrics, heavy low reps, and explosive exercises.
I felt like I had a buzz throughout the workout. I was able to increase the weight, sets, and/or reps on most exercises. Can’t say if this was due to Surge Workout Fuel or psychological aspects as I was just really jacked up to finally get to try Surge Workout Fuel.
Overall I just felt “on” and had an awesome training session. I’m gonna continue to use SWF and gauge the cost/benefit ratio as compared to Surge Recovery.
Next I’m going to experiment with SWF before/during hockey games. After tasting lemonade can’t wait to try the fruit punch!
I’ll echo what everybody else has been saying about SURGE Workout Fuel. Taste was pretty good, even mixed with 1/2 serving of original Surge Recovery. Lemonade tasted a little better than Fruit Punch (I used a scoop of each). Reps/weight was up on everything, and I hit 30 chins in less sets than what it took me to reach 25 chins last week.
[quote]Nate Green wrote:
PB Andy wrote:
Being an Oly lifter, I think creatine is crucial during my training. I take 5g before, and 5g after (both with half serving Surge recovery).
I take 5g before because Thib mentioned in his Supplementation for Newbies article that taking 5g creatine before training has actually been shown to be more effective. So, I will of course continue to take the 5g after my workout, but how should I take the 5g before my workout when using Surge Workout Fuel?
For instance, I’m thinking of doing this:
~30 minutes before training, 5g creatine by itself in water.
Does this sound like a good plan, because I don’t want to mix my 5g creatine with the Surge Workout Fuel since I’d be sipping on that 5g creatine through the duration of my workout.
Thanks.
I usually mix my creatine in with some green tea and sip on the way to the gym.
-Nate
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That’s a damn good idea, thanks Nate. Hopefully the green tea doesn’t have any calming effects on me before lifting, but I think the SURGE Workout Fuel will take care of that effect, anyways.
Tried SWF for the first time yesterday on my carb up day. I did GBC training for upper body pull, quads, then upper body push. For example:
A1. Pullup x 6
A2. T-bar row x 12
A3. face pull x 25
And 3 of these giant sets for each body part.
I used 2 servings of SWF as recommended over the hour, and just had regular Surge post workout.
The first thing I noticed: the actual giant sets weren’t any easier than normal. I still felt just as much burn due to lactic acid buildup as during any other workout like this, and by the end of the 3rd set for each muscle group, I felt wiped out in that area.
So by the time I finished upper body pull, my back and bis felt like they were on fire. So I went and did quads. By the time I finished quads (~10 mins later) my entire upper body felt good to go again. I mean, I’m sure there was some residual fatigue, but my back and arms felt ready to move some more weight! So I went on and did my upper body pushing, and by the time that was done, my quads felt relatively normal again. This is basically unheard of for me.
I’ll hafta try SWF for some different types of workouts, but so far my conclusion is:
This stuff really will help you keep on pushin by allowing for some quick recovery and hydration of the muscles. I could see how for athletes, who aren’t completely annihilating muscle groups one at a time like you do with GBC, this supp is really great. And today, after that killer total body workout, I’m not even slightly sore. nice.
Great supp guys, look forward to usin it with different types of workouts!
OK SURGE Workout Fuel came today. Used it during my Oly training. I used the 2 scoops w/ 20oz over a period of 1 and a half hours instead of 1, but I’ll fix that next time and sip more often. My last snatch PR was 170 lbs. for 1 rep. Today I did 185 lbs. for 1, and had the 2nd one but a technique issue made me drop the weight in front.
Basically I was very surprised I got to 185 already, and I will keep you guys updated on how my c&j and snatch improve. I’m planning to get 200, or bodyweight (~205-210 lbs) before Xmas break (Dec. 19).
Tim mentioned to me the fact that the same transporter is required for all BCAA’s (as well as other neutral amino acids such as tryptophan) and therefore other BCAA’s will compete with leucine for transport and thus actually can be counterproductive to the efficacy of leucine.
I’ll never admit I’m sick, but let’s just say I wasn’t feeling 100% today. So I drank half a serving of SURGE Workout Fuel and by the time I got to the gym I was ready to lift. I had to force myself to rest between my heavy sets. Supersets, as someone else noted, were still rough but overall the workout felt easy, and I only used one scoop.
The real test will be legs on Wednseday. If this stuff can make front squat clusters feel easy, we’ve got a winner.
I was blown away by this… I used two servings though, one before working out and one during. My strength was noticeably higher. I usually can’t chin up to save my life but today I did them very easily. Ended up leaving the gym with such a dumbass grin… lol “You won’t wanna train without this” No shit lol
I have been eating fairly light and working out for fitness and keeping a low body fat, rather than training for size and strength for the past few years. Since trying SURGE Workout Fuel and feeling the difference it made, I’m going to enter a mass gaining phase. I want to see what I can accomplish with this stuff.
So far SURGE Workout Fuel seems like it is everything it’s hyped to be.
Tried the Surge Workout fuel for 2 of my workouts.
For the metabolic pairings by Thibs, it worked GREAT. Normally when I do hang clean/push press and burpees, I can only do 8-15 burpees due to my legs giving out. But I was able to do for my three sets: 20, 20, 18 burpees instead of the normal 15, 12, 8. So it is a must on these days.
For the strength day of heavy squats, I noticed that my strength did not go up, but I could do more sets with the same weight. So, for high volume days it would work great for me, but not so much for low repetition strength days.
lol I’ve never seen a thread with so many authors or other Biotest people writting in on it!
Btw thank you guys for releasing it so that I may buy some more. I have been missing it since I ran out
So to all those who said they wanted to hear from people that don’t get it free from Biotest I’m one. While I used to get it free, darn Biotest now gets about 1/3 of my paycheck a month
This stuff is unreal.
Last Tuesday I close-grip benched(pointer fingers on smooth part of bar) 165 for 3 sets of 6.
Today I worked up to 215 x 1, 195 x 4, and then 135 x 18!
I did 165 for a set of 6 but it felt wayyy too light.
The nomenclature used in the label has 1 scoop being 1 serving.
“Double serving” would mean 2 scoops.
Not four.
I would recommend if you wish to use more, and if it’s a 1 hour workout, then use 1/2 scoop 15 minutes before the workout, 2 scoops immediately before or during the worktout (whether drunk all at once immediately before or sipped during, sipped being the recommendation but all at once being how I do it personally and also does work), and 1 scoop afterwards combined with Surge Recovery.
Or if a 90 minute workout then an additional 1 scoop at the 60 minute point to cover your last 30 minutes; or if a 2 hour workout then an additional 2 scoops at the 1 hour point to cover your last hour.
But I would not recommend four scoops in one hour.
If you do want greater intake before or in the workout than the Workout Fuel provides, I’d recommend adding in Surge Recovery, not using above-recommended Workout Fuel.
The current plan I’m on calls for some fast acting carbohydrates pre and peri-workout to normalize blood glucose levels and keep them up throughout the workout.
Should I use my SURGE Workout Fuel for this or save it for a rainy day?
