I go on google news today, and I see that he’s signing the orders to close Guantanamo.
I look down a little further, and see that embryonic stem cell research is approved, and that Obama will soon be signing a bill offering Federal funding.
And then I look down a little more, and I see that he lifted that stupid fucking ban on funding abortion groups overseas.
And I think, finally, FINALLY, we’re heading back to where America should be. It’s been three days, but he’s done more good than W did in 8 years.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I go on google news today, and I see that he’s signing the orders to close Guantanamo.
I look down a little further, and see that embryonic stem cell research is approved, and that Obama will soon be signing a bill offering Federal funding.
And then I look down a little more, and I see that he lifted that stupid fucking ban on funding abortion groups overseas.
And I think, finally, FINALLY, we’re heading back to where America should be. It’s been three days, but he’s done more good than W did in 8 years.[/quote]
WHy are we closing guantanamo? Why don’t we just give people their trials, and keep it open?
I’m all for stem cell research, now that we don’t need dead babies for stem cells, but I don’t want to pay for it, You pay for it if you want it so bad.
Why the fuck are we funding the violation of a basic tenant of our constitution.
God knows the only kind of good baby is a dead one
annnnnnd… I LOVE paying for other people’s shit[/quote]
Yup. And a “stimulus” package that drastically increases to size of government and in no way will stimulate the economy as it is just a series of hand outs to dead end projects and economic black holes…Whoopie! A baby killing welfare state, just what I always wanted.
I can’t fucking wait 'til he jacks my taxes out the fucking ass too to pay for all those abortions…
I’m all for stem cell research, now that we don’t need dead babies for stem cells, but I don’t want to pay for it, You pay for it if you want it so bad.
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Why wouldn’t you want your money to go to stem cell research? God forbid you or anyone in your family ever end up with a deadly or chronic disease. Why not just go ahead and end all medical research if taxpayers’ dollars are funding it?
Also, if stem cell research produces real cures like many scientists think it will, then it would greatly ease the load on your soon-to-be universal healthcare system.
When you have a problem that stem cell research fixes you’ll want the funding for the research. Stuff like that doesn’t just fall from the sky.
Guantanamo needs to be closed, if for nothing else just because of its reputation. Plus there are people who have been in there for 7 years with no trial, charges or anything. That is unamerican, it isn’t how we do things.
Those people, guilty or not, bad people or not, need to have charges filed and be sent to trial, then dealt with accordingly. Americans don’t hold people without charges or trial.
I’m all for stem cell research, now that we don’t need dead babies for stem cells, but I don’t want to pay for it, You pay for it if you want it so bad.
Why wouldn’t you want your money to go to stem cell research? God forbid you or anyone in your family ever end up with a deadly or chronic disease. Why not just go ahead and end all medical research if taxpayers’ dollars are funding it?
Also, if stem cell research produces real cures like many scientists think it will, then it would greatly ease the load on your soon-to-be universal healthcare system.[/quote]
No thanks on universal healthcare. If there is a demand for treatments from stem cells, there will be a supply.
I’m all for stem cell research, now that we don’t need dead babies for stem cells, but I don’t want to pay for it, You pay for it if you want it so bad.
Why wouldn’t you want your money to go to stem cell research? God forbid you or anyone in your family ever end up with a deadly or chronic disease. Why not just go ahead and end all medical research if taxpayers’ dollars are funding it?
Also, if stem cell research produces real cures like many scientists think it will, then it would greatly ease the load on your soon-to-be universal healthcare system.
No thanks on universal healthcare. If there is a demand for treatments from stem cells, there will be a supply.
anything else?[/quote]
I’m not asking you if you want universal healthcare. That’s the system that Obama said he will implement.
And of course there’s a demand for stem cells. It has the potential to cure many diseases and save millions of lives.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I go on google news today, and I see that he’s signing the orders to close Guantanamo.
I look down a little further, and see that embryonic stem cell research is approved, and that Obama will soon be signing a bill offering Federal funding.
And then I look down a little more, and I see that he lifted that stupid fucking ban on funding abortion groups overseas.
And I think, finally, FINALLY, we’re heading back to where America should be. It’s been three days, but he’s done more good than W did in 8 years.[/quote]
I had the same thoughts when looking at the news this morning. Nice to read something positive going on for a change!
[quote]1000rippedbuff wrote:
The research hasn’t been done on stem cells due to it being illegal. The uses are not entirely known yet.[/quote]
Absolutely untrue. It’s perfectly legal - you just couldn’t get federal funding for it and the venture capitalists didn’t want to fund it because it hasn’t shown any promise.
We already use ASCs to treat more than 70 diseases. ESCs: zero. If the technology had any promise, it would have produced something already.
[quote]Christine wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I go on google news today, and I see that he’s signing the orders to close Guantanamo.
I look down a little further, and see that embryonic stem cell research is approved, and that Obama will soon be signing a bill offering Federal funding.
And then I look down a little more, and I see that he lifted that stupid fucking ban on funding abortion groups overseas.
And I think, finally, FINALLY, we’re heading back to where America should be. It’s been three days, but he’s done more good than W did in 8 years.
I had the same thoughts when looking at the news this morning. Nice to read something positive going on for a change![/quote]
Yes, thank goodness we are in the process of closing Gitmo - all we have to do now is figure out how criminal procedure works in the hills of Afghanistan when irregulars are shooting at our soldiers.
Do soldiers have to “knock and announce” before entering a cave?
Do they have to read Miranda rights to irregulars they swarm?
What kind of evidence is used at their non-Gitmo trial? to sustain habeas corpus challenges?
What do we do with the current inmates?
After the sentimentalism of “closing Gitmo” subsides, we face hard choices, and our options might be worse than keeping Gitmo open. Just don’t tell the Hope and Change crowd - who get sleepy and start rubbing their eyes when the hard questions come out.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Standard Donkey wrote:
thank God…
God knows the only kind of good baby is a dead one
annnnnnd… I LOVE paying for other people’s shit
I don’t hear you complain about the BILLIONS of dollars worth of weaponry that go to Israel, Egypt or any such oppressive state.[/quote]
Thats because they PAY for the weapons they buy. This just in, local extremist takes a shot at Israel and zionism in a thread about Gitmo, stem cells and US backed foreign abortions.
Don’t care about Gitmo as long as they are detained somewhere, I have seen enough articles on breitbart about released terrorists from gitmo jumping right back on the Qaeda bandwagon.
Stem cells are something that need to be researched and funded federally as long as we aren’t harvesting live embryo’s from mothers, which last time I checked we weren’t.
Foreign abortions paid for by the US? I am totally not for abortion, but it’s legal here. If we are already funding these people does it matter where the money goes as long as it isn’t some warlords pocket?
All in all not much news to me, maybe the stem cell funding is a positive, but who cares about Gitmo and other countries abortions. I hope the one ting this guy can do is pull back from all foreign obligations and make us stronger DOMESTICLY. Finish out what needs to be finished then strengthen from the inside out.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Yes, thank goodness we are in the process of closing Gitmo - all we have to do now is figure out how criminal procedure works in the hills of Afghanistan when irregulars are shooting at our soldiers.
Do soldiers have to “knock and announce” before entering a cave?
Do they have to read Miranda rights to irregulars they swarm?
What kind of evidence is used at their non-Gitmo trial? to sustain habeas corpus challenges?
What do we do with the current inmates?
After the sentimentalism of “closing Gitmo” subsides, we face hard choices, and our options might be worse than keeping Gitmo open. Just don’t tell the Hope and Change crowd - who get sleepy and start rubbing their eyes when the hard questions come out.[/quote]