The only steady one i’ve really found that affects mood/well being is my current one. I actually ask myself daily “should i be feeling this good?”
That’s why i’m sticking on it now as i hope it will some day fix the arousal issue.
Some men take longer to regain libido, maybe give it more time. It’s clear to me your lack of libido isn’t hormonal.
I edited my last response as i misunderstood you.
Yes, going to try this one for longer.
Maybe i’m confused. I seem to have “libido” in that i see women i want to have sex with. It’s just when i get the opportunity, the arousal isn’t there. I don’t get that hot, blue balls feeling etc. that one normally would when messing around with a female.
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For sure. I feel totally disconnected from my penis most of the time
Good way to put it.
Sometimes when i’m with a woman, the signal is there, but just soooo slight. It needs to be amplified. And viagra isn’t really working that well anymore either.
I’m 44 years old. I will likely be single forever. Its truly maddening/sad.
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For most, 140-180mg. Some 120mg, some 200mg. These days, thanks partly to the internet, more start with twice weekly than once. Some pick twice because they can use a smaller needle. Those that choose once do so because they don’t want to be bothered with twice.
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Arousal happens when you have strong healthy fully flaccid erections. As my erections get stronger, harder, arousal improves.
Or, maybe, as arousal increases, erection quality increases?
I think it could be interconnected. My libido is pretty dead and I feel disconnected from my penis most of the time, but if I force an erection and get towards an orgasm through mechanical stimulation/porn I can sort of get my brain into that state of actual strong arousal. Which is a lot different than I remember being natural/before I had issues, I remember the arousal state would always come first before the erection. It’s incredibly frustrating.
That’s part of the reason I asked where you start patients at, I’m kind of looking at resetting my protocol. Nothing stands out on my labs as abnormal really. I aromatize pretty normally, shbg is mid range, prolactin isnt high. Just a mystery a lot like @roscoe88
I consulted with one clinic who recommended 300mg of test a week. Seems a little unsustainable and almost desperate enough to try, but I worry about it long term.
You could try this just to see if you get ANY resolve with libido. That way at least you know it’s likely not a testosterone thing.
I tried super high dose too awhile back. Fail.
You mentioned porn too. I firmly believe porn desensitizes us to more normal sex with a partner. Watching porn, your rewiring your brain to release dopamine and become aroused at things so abnormal from what a real sexual encounter brings.
I think this has a lot to do with lack of arousal. I’ve pretty much quit porn as much as i can. It’s super difficult to do.
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This is more likely.
And arousal isn’t just getting an erection. It’s that heated feeling. Your drive goes up a bit. You become a bit flustered. etc. THIS is arousal.
Libido, on the other hand, to me, is more just seeing a woman and being attracted to her.
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Yeah you’re 100% correct about the negative effects from porn. I don’t watch it often anymore even though I used to definitely overuse or abuse it, but every couple of weeks I get that panic/curiosity to see if I can get any sort of stimulus from it
I have a handful of guys there, crazy. One needs 400mg to get total test to 1000. A couple others need 300mg for symptom relief. Weird.
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Interesting that the 3 guys who take AI like their E2 under 40, and 2 out of those 3 like it under 30.
I wonder if there is a trend or correlation there to some extent. As we read these forums there are cases of guys who need to be in the 20s and sometimes 30s with AI to feel better, some even in the high teens. No matter the TT or FT.
If all your clients feel well I am also glad those numbers destroy any sort of proclaimed “ratio”, because they simply don’t exist.
I don’t think people get this issue as the topic is always a little too black and white. Its like you said I think about sex a lot, I want it, I am happy when it all works out. But its like you said the arousal part where there are no blue balls etc.
Its like we got electricity in the house, the light switch works, the light bulb is new… but somewhere in the path there is just something off, the light bulb either flickers or is dim at best.
When I think of back to my youthful days I honestly didn’t need that much too get aroused and be excited, now its like i need to “focus and concentrate and relax”. Maybe its all mental including performance anxiety? I don’t know.
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This definitely adds into the equation after time. Now i worry about things not working, even with viagra. What’s my “excuse” gonna be?
All this worry releases adrenaline, which likely isn’t good for blood flow, etc.
Not sure about your case but my dilemma there is why then if I already had a good time and decent experience with the same woman, why all of a sudden this next time something just isn’t clicking and the situations gets even worse. It’s like I know inside “damn I want it I am ready come on! Wtf!” Like I said it’s like some little wire along the way is just not functioning.
I don’t know.
I think a LOT of desensitization occurs because of porn. So even though you’ve been with her a few times, the fact she’s not participating in a gang bang is what’s causing your lack of arousal.
Substitute gang bang for whatever you’re watching on porn.
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Unusual, yes, but patients are unique.
I think so. It is a mistake to lock in on a number.