I read in a past issue of T-Mag that in order for a supplement to be legal it has to meet 2 criteria. 1. It has to be naturaly present in the body. 2. It has to occur naturaly in our food. My question is doesn’t Testosterone meet these two criteria. Does it occur in meat(beef)? It is naturaly present in our bodys.
how come we cant buy Mag-20 with Testosterone-ethylcarbonate ester. Just curious…
bump
You forgot the third criteria, it also cannot have been marketed as a drug.
Although I am no expert, I thought I could give you a quick explanation. Bill Roberts elluded to also a criteria of not already being a perscription drug (I’m sure this is oversimplified). One could make testosterone-EC or ether according to Bill, but if there is any free testosterone in the formula, it is considered illegal. Since manufacturing standards can not be met for 100% purity, any manufcturer of that product could face legal issues. Hope that helps.
EDog
You also could not do it because esters of testosterone are controlled substances in the United States.
I think what the guy was really asking is why is testosterone a controlled substance? Estrogen isn’t, so why is T?
You can buy the contraceptive pill and female hormone replacement drugs over the counter in the US? In Australia; as far as I know you need a prescription for any estrogen based products and that goes for testosterone too. Doctors are less likely to write out one for the latter!
stigma.
I know you can get small amounts of creatine or creatinine from red meat, not sure about T
Well, yeah you need a prescription for the pill, but getting one usually goes like this.
"Doctor, I want the pill.
"OK, here you go."
So where did the negative T stigma come from?
Anabolic steroids were included in the Controlled Substances, I think, at least somewhat due to hysteria created by the book “Death in the Locker Room” and also a legitimate
desire to decrease use by high school athletes.
Here is another related question then. About the A1E part of Mag10. Is it an actual steriod
or is it a prohormone that needs conversion to something else once inside the body to be active…Does it itself bind to the androgen receptor and cause growth… Would there be any advantage to taking more A1E by itself while on Mag10…if it is a steroid how is it legal and T not. Is it just because T and its esters and analogs are specified in the law while A1E was not…
A1-E is our trade name for androst-1-ene ethylcarbonate ester.
As with very many other compounds, for example cholesterol, guggulsterone (found in guggul extract used to promote thyroid function), protodioscin (found in tribulus),
cortisol, progesterone, estradiol, aldosterone, lanosterol (from the wool fat
of sheep), and thousands of others, androst-1-ene has the chemical structure of a “steroid.”
Androst-1-ene does not require conversion
to be active.
Androst-1-ene ethylcarbonate ester does require
removal of the ester in the body to be active.
It isn’t the case that “steroids” are illegal.
All kinds of steroids are sold over the counter and are perfectly legal. It is specifically “anabolic steroids” rather than steroids in general that are illegal
for sale without a prescription. Whether a compound is an “anabolic steroid” is a matter of legal definition. 4-AD and androst-1-ene are not, for example, while testosterone and nandrolone are.
At lower doses of MAG-10 – for example, if taking only half a dose per day – adding more A1-E would certainly improve results. At higher doses – for example, at 2 doses per day – I don’t think so.