Testing Maxes

[system]

Hey guys, I’m going to be cutting in 1 week and figured it would be a good idea to test my maxes, partly to compare to after the cut and partly because I’m just curious what they are. I plan on testing my 1RM bench, squat (never tested 1rm for squat before actually), deadlift and military or push press.

Honestly it probably doesn’t matter all that much since it will be 4-8 total hard sets but no harm in asking…

1. Would it make sense to just get it done in one day? i.e squat then bench then deads then MP for example, or would that hurt my strength on the later ones so I should I spread it over 2 different days like squat/bench then deads/MP?

2. I currently workout
   Sunday: Back/biceps/calves
   Monday: off
   Tuesday: Chest/Tris/shoulders/calves/forearms
   Wednesday: off
   Thursday: Back/legs/biceps/calves
   Friday: off
   Saturday: Chest/tris/calves/forearms

Any particular day/time that would best to throw them in there as to not affect my actual workouts? I generally don’t spend much time testing my 1RM as mentioned but it doesn’t seem that taxing. Thought it would be good to ask though. If not on a workout day I would probably just throw a little extra carbs on that day(s).

Thanks.

[BONEZ217]

No it wouldnt make sense.

[rasturai]

Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.

[Tatsu]

Why just not incorperate it in your current workout? Only do it with a 2-4 rep max and not 1RM.

But if I would be you, I wouldn’t even test a 1RM because of a comparison before and after a cut. I would just shoot for the weight and reps of the workout before or to try to beat it. Nothing in that matter to break my head about.

[system]

[quote]Tatsu wrote:
Why just not incorperate it in your current workout? Only do it with a 2-4 rep max and not 1RM.

But if I would be you, I wouldn’t even test a 1RM because of a comparison before and after a cut. I would just shoot for the weight and reps of the workout before or to try to beat it. Nothing in that matter to break my head about.[/quote]

I don’t necessarily care about the 1RM, and yes I could/will compare the exercises I do with the reps I do now, I’m really just wondering what they are.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.[/quote]

As in take the main movement out and replace it with the 1RM? I could but I wouldn’t want my actual workout to suffer, and I don’t actually deadlift right now.

Meh, whatever though I’ll just throw them in somewhere

[giterdone]

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

[quote]Tatsu wrote:
Why just not incorperate it in your current workout? Only do it with a 2-4 rep max and not 1RM.

But if I would be you, I wouldn’t even test a 1RM because of a comparison before and after a cut. I would just shoot for the weight and reps of the workout before or to try to beat it. Nothing in that matter to break my head about.[/quote]

I don’t necessarily care about the 1RM, and yes I could/will compare the exercises I do with the reps I do now, I’m really just wondering what they are.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.[/quote]

As in take the main movement out and replace it with the 1RM? I could but I wouldn’t want my actual workout to suffer, and I don’t actually deadlift right now.

Meh, whatever though I’ll just throw them in somewhere[/quote]

If not I follow how you want to test your 1RM but “don’t necessarily care about it”.

Just do singles, ramp up the weight on the movement, minimize fatigue as you go, and figure out the 1RM. Get your reps in after that. It may be different than how you train normally but the workout won’t “suffer”. It may be a good thing.

[trav123456]

What’s the point? You’ll know by your regular work whether the cut has weakened you.

[jasmincar]

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.[/quote]

x2

[system]

[quote]giterdone wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

[quote]Tatsu wrote:
Why just not incorperate it in your current workout? Only do it with a 2-4 rep max and not 1RM.

But if I would be you, I wouldn’t even test a 1RM because of a comparison before and after a cut. I would just shoot for the weight and reps of the workout before or to try to beat it. Nothing in that matter to break my head about.[/quote]

I don’t necessarily care about the 1RM, and yes I could/will compare the exercises I do with the reps I do now, I’m really just wondering what they are.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.[/quote]

As in take the main movement out and replace it with the 1RM? I could but I wouldn’t want my actual workout to suffer, and I don’t actually deadlift right now.

Meh, whatever though I’ll just throw them in somewhere[/quote]

If not I follow how you want to test your 1RM but “don’t necessarily care about it”.

Just do singles, ramp up the weight on the movement, minimize fatigue as you go, and figure out the 1RM. Get your reps in after that. It may be different than how you train normally but the workout won’t “suffer”. It may be a good thing.[/quote]

Yea I suppose if anything it will just be different, not necessarily any worse for the muscle for one workout. I’ll probably do MP this tuesday, squats thursday, bench saturday and deadlift sunday or friday. I workout at home so convenience isn’t an issue.

And I don’t mean I don’t care about it at all, I just mean that if my max on an exercise is 350 or 355 I don’t really care much as long as I’m making progress from workout to workout. I’m just interested to find out what they are since I haven’t tested them in awhile.

[rasturai]

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

[quote]Tatsu wrote:
Why just not incorperate it in your current workout? Only do it with a 2-4 rep max and not 1RM.

But if I would be you, I wouldn’t even test a 1RM because of a comparison before and after a cut. I would just shoot for the weight and reps of the workout before or to try to beat it. Nothing in that matter to break my head about.[/quote]

I don’t necessarily care about the 1RM, and yes I could/will compare the exercises I do with the reps I do now, I’m really just wondering what they are.

[quote]rasturai wrote:
Man your thinking about this way too much lol. If I wanna test a max on a lift just test it on the DAY you work that muscle group/bodypart.
So if you have a chest day and put your main movement or first exercise whatever BENCH PRESS.
Bench Press 1RM
then finisht the workout
Incline DB press
Dips
done.

Leg day

SQUATS 1RM
Leg Press, Hack squat, leg ext. whatever you do.
Done.

SHOULDER DAY
military press 1RM etc etc etc.

you get the point.[/quote]

As in take the main movement out and replace it with the 1RM? I could but I wouldn’t want my actual workout to suffer, and I don’t actually deadlift right now.

Meh, whatever though I’ll just throw them in somewhere[/quote]

MAN you just contradicted what you said…you don’t neccesarily care about the 1RM…well the first post said you wanted to see where it’s at and whatever and curious what your 1RM…now your saying you don’t care…if you don’t care then don’t do it! If you WANT to know what it is…just DO IT…seriously man Im not trying to be a dick but it’s just a ONE REP MAX. It’s not like your doing some compeititon or tournament where it MEANS something lol.

Go to gym, warmup, lift your one rep max. You get it great, if you fail one…oh well try next time. Seriosuly man it’s not a big deal. I MAX OUT every WEEK I test my squat…thats right, every week I go for a 1RM on my backsquat lol. and I work off that weight for back off sets.

[rasturai]

AND YES use your main movement (bench, squat whatever) and use THAT for your 1RM…it doesn’t have to be seperate man. If you do a 1RM it doesn’t mean the workout is done, it’s not a PL competition.

Bench Press - warmup say you get 300lbs for a single. Awesome.
DO BACK OFF SETS (workout is not done/ruined cause you did a single, your CNS will NOT fry)
3 sets of 4-6, or whatever you do…you could even just do ONE set of your best 10 reps you can get and that’ll leave you feelin good.
Next chest exercise. etc…and whatever else you do that day.

Squat -same shit…hell do a set of 15 after your 1RM and you will be left dead (if you push as hard as you can)

Summary:

• Your not taking a main movement out, just use the BIG THREE as your main movement (on seperate days you work that bodypart out).

• After your 1RM in whatever lift for that day (bench, squat) you can use that SAME LIFT (bench, squat) for a back off set of whatever you please to get the job done.

• Your ACTUAL workout will not suffer, precede to do what you normally do after it. You should always be trying to break PR’s in the gym everytime you go anyways. The goal is always more weight to the bar.

• IT doesn’t matter if you don’t actually deadlift right now…do it on a day you feel fresh, Deadlift for 1RM, and then do some back off sets of stiff leg deads, front squats, etc etc. whatever you do.

• Good luck!

[jasmincar]

that thread is useless and retarded

from the guy that wears the dunce hat that means alot

[rasturai]

I also hope you know that you would STILL finish the workout, like if you do chest/back

Chest:

Bench Press - 1RM
Back off set 2 sets of 6 (if you want or you can go straight into next exercise(s)
Incline DB press
Chest Flyes - whatever you do

Workout still not done!

Back:
Bent Over rows
Lat Pulldown
Face pull

Again I am stressing this so you know the workout is not over and it won’t suffer from doing a HEAVY single.
Just try it out and you will see, if nothing you will feel more pumped up. Unless your strength is dramatically down in which you WILL feel like shit cause of the blow your mind takes how much weaker you are thus making you NOT want to finish the workout and say…ahh fuck it, not a good day.

[SteelyD]

OP- how about you just stop being a pussy and go a lift heavy weight up to a 1RM.

When you’re done, take a pic of you all pumped up and post it.

[Ocelot82]

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
OP- how about you just stop being a pussy and go a lift heavy weight up to a 1RM.

When you’re done, take a pic of you all pumped up and post it.[/quote]

Not a bad idea at all.

[kerplunk]

over ANALyze much?

[Westclock]

I usually only work up to heavy triples, sometimes doubles.

Its not hard to estimate a 1RM from how you feel on the doubles.

[Cephalic_Carnage]

Just go to the gym and do it ffs.

Next up: “So, I’d like to breathe, but I’m not sure if enough time has passed since my last breath.
Your thoughts, internet?”

[gregron]

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Just go to the gym and do it ffs.

Next up: “So, I’d like to breathe, but I’m not sure if enough time has passed since my last breath.
Your thoughts, internet?”

[/quote]

lolzzzz

.greg.

[Hazzyhazz24]

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Just go to the gym and do it ffs.

Next up: “So, I’d like to breathe, but I’m not sure if enough time has passed since my last breath.
Your thoughts, internet?”

[/quote]

that and another why train calves thread? or why bench press thread? or why train at all thread?