There has been a lot of scattered chat around gender, changing norms, perception and disgruntled women.
Thought this was a relevant point of discussion.
Not only are T levels dropping, the male genetic code itself is in decline:
This kind of reads like clickbait, bro.
The best argument it has is āfruit flies lost their Y chromosomeā, but there are still male fruit fliesā¦
Nonstarter, sorry.
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The Y chromosome is just getting more efficient.
Will it be able to give itself a blowjob?
Thatās above my paygrade.
On a tangentially related note, if anyone is still dumb enough to do no nut november, autofellatio is a loophole as long as you swallow, since it never leaves your body.
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Itās not everything itās cracked up to be. I never would have gotten fat in the first place if it were.
Between boobs on 9 year-old girls and dropping testosterone, somethingās definitely up with us humans. Weāre likely responding to our environment, if those Darwinists are to be believed.
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There was a Jordan Peterson video where he was discussing the onset of puberty in girlsā¦ normally not something I would listen to, but I found it interesting.
He was saying that girls growing up with their biological father present typically hit puberty at around the age of 13, whereas girls growing up with stepfathers (or other non-paternal males present) would typically hit puberty at around 12.
RE testosterone dropping in boys, itās everything from environmental, health, even social factors.
There is nowhere left for men to just be men.
Even the Boy Scouts have girls in them, for some fuckin reason 
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I think youāre more or less correct. As a society, weāve āstudies sayā and āexperts suggestā'ed ourselves out of what every man knows to be true. Physical fitness is important. Having skills is important. Being dangerous is important. Being learned is important. Etc.
Masculinity is to be celebrated and cultivated in the same way that femininity should be. Everyone knows itās okay to fall outside the norm nowadays, and nobody gets any serious level of shit for it in 2024.
Be weird, be abnormal. But normal is still good and preferable for most, and thatās fine too.
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Itās hard to do when if you do so much as exclude women from a Saturday night poker club, even some of your fellow men will say youāre ālike the Middle Eastā. I think we might see a change in the future though.
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I legitimately think we lost the definition of men a long time ago.
For some reason spending free time on a couch with shitty food, cheap beer and watching other men be athletic has become the masculine past time. Nobody has a wood shop and motorcycles, fishing & hunting, joining clubs et cetera are all in decline.
Women were handed the keys to the kingdom when the very domesticated act of staying home and growing bitch tits with another manās jersey on became peak masculinity. Probably correlation more so than causation, but either way I donāt believe there was a hostile feminist takeover. Just bitch men, and here we are.
Case in point, there is a bar in town that hosts dirty bingo. Prizes are basically from an Adam & Eve catalogue and both couples and singles show up, mostly women. Probably 3/4 women. All ready to mingle in context.
Itās amazing to hear how many of them have a boyfriend or husband at home watching how fast Christian McAffrey is instead.
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@Njord Your post is spot on.
However, I donāt think most men have enough knowledge on feminism, what it actually is and was from the beginning, and its profoundly dangerous effects on society. They simply are unaware of all this or donāt want to know.
I believe some men actually believe feminism is just this:
- women working
- women voting
- women making and spending money
- women screwing whoever they want to whenever they want to
- women being educated.
You are right that men ceded their position and became soft and lazy. Also, men want to appease, protect, and provide for women and want their company. Weād have to scour the earth to find actual misogyny. Traditional chivalry actually lead to the rise of feminism
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everybody is a victim. gd, nut up and quit blaming the world.
I think you and I had a very similar conversation in some thread in the past, and I believe I commented that I still see male-only places where men can freely be men, but that they are pretty much only within select religious and cultural spheres that the average American male, however much they wish for āfreedom to be themselvesā has absolutely no interest in or value for.
As usual, itās hard to pine for the past when really, thereās plenty about it that you donāt want anything to do with.
This made me laugh.
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I believe there is a misconception that if one wants to bring something good from the past back, or wants to do something that was done in the past while not even thinking of the past, that he wants to bring all of the past back.
I personally donāt romanticize much, including the past, though, as I stated in another post, I wouldnāt mind taking a time machine back to the Gen X heyday every now and then, if that were possible.
Do you mean that the average American male wouldnāt want to go to male-only spaces?
I see how what I said sounds like this, but itās not quite what I mean. I think some things are so deeply connected, that you canāt bring one aspect back without bringing others back as well. Some things canāt exist without each other, or wouldnāt have been the same were it not for the conditions and societies of the time.
No, I think they would like to. But they say things like thereās nowhere for them to go now, when really, there is. But itās not based around things that they like. Pick which one it is - is it that thereās nowhere to go, or are there places to go but theyāre not good enough/donāt fit your tastes?
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Based on the ā56ā in your handle, i specifically blame you and your generation.
You really donāt know who youāre talking to ābigā dave.
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Of possible interest.
Interview from yesterday with political scientist Dr. Baskerville, of whom Iām a fan boy and who Iāve regularly plugged in such threads.
Much emphasis on the welfare state and life-ruining family court here.
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Yet more nonsense peddled by scientists.