Test Undecanoate

Just wondering if this esther could be used to any advantage for anything other than TRT. Possibly as a base for a stack? It’s generally injected 1g/per 12 weeks for TRT, but how evenly/how long it stays in the body is questionable.

But, with a more realistic half-life in mind (30~ days?), could a reasonable stack be created around it? Just curious as to others’ opinions.

AS, so, with the base of a one-time 1g shot, what do you think could be done?

[quote]barchie wrote:
AS, so, with the base of a one-time 1g shot, what do you think could be done? [/quote]

I think a more important question would be Why would it be done? Besides less frequent pinning, what would be the advantages that catch your eye?

Yes, it’s the doc… I could get the shots continuously, but once every 12 weeks is the limiting factor. I’m still trying to figure out how to optimize something with the orals that I have and the only Test that is workable for me right now. AlteredStates, I appreciate all of the input! Give my regards to Bushy.

What would be the reasoning behind the 4-6 weeks for the orals? To minimize cholesterol/liver issues?

I personally think your doctor is a moron using that protocol. I’m guessing you’re not in the U.S… If so, try to get Sustanon if possible.

It’s used in many countries, but it only doesn’t suck if you get at least twice a week injections. Most prefer EOD.
Here’s a link for your doctor if everything else fails:
http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/reprint/23/3/419.pdf
It mentions that not until the thirteenth, yes 13th shot do your blood levels settle in.
Let’s see 13 shots times 12 weeks between shots, equals your life sucks for at least two years. Get another doctor, okay?

AS,

At last check blood tests were within acceptable ranges, except the Test was a little low.I’m still trying to figure out how to best use the orals that I have within the framework of the Test Undec. I have Dbol, Tbol, Var and Primo (also some Proviron). At this point, I’m not planning on using the Dbol. I’m not looking to get huge, I’d actually prefer more slow, lasting, lean gains. I just keep going back and forth on what kind of cycle to put together. I appreciate your input and patience with all of these questions!

KNB,

I’m not too fond of the protocol myself and trying to find other sources would be very problematic, given my unique circumstances. So, I’m trying to make the best with what I have and what I can get (which is, unfortunately, the Test U!).

I keep vacillating between Tbol+Var and Tbol+Primo (trying to get some class I/II synergy). Any ideas if one of these would work better than the other with the Test Undec.?

Bumping this because I found this article interesting:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090505/male_injection_090505/20090505?hub=TopStories

New male contraceptive injection appears effective

Chinese researchers injected 1,045 healthy Chinese men aged 20 to 45 years with a 500 mg of testosterone undecanoate in oil, once a month for 24 months. All of the study participants had had at least one child and all their female partners, aged 18 and 38 years, also had normal reproductive function.

[quote]machiajelly wrote:
Bumping this because I found this article interesting:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090505/male_injection_090505/20090505?hub=TopStories

New male contraceptive injection appears effective

Chinese researchers injected 1,045 healthy Chinese men aged 20 to 45 years with a 500 mg of testosterone undecanoate in oil, once a month for 24 months. All of the study participants had had at least one child and all their female partners, aged 18 and 38 years, also had normal reproductive function.[/quote]

No time to read the link now, but I do remember that the protocol is only 70% effective with Caucasians, even lower with AAs.