Sup guys this is going to be my first cycle with all 3 of these compounds.
12 week cycle -
Test Prop 50mg EOD/ 200mg per week
Tren Ace 50mg EOD/ 200mg per week
Dbol 50mg 1-4 week ED split morning and pre workout(essentially PM)
Arimidex EOD @ .25mg
And I will have caber on hand. I’m not sure if I should take it when I first start Tren and dose it Every Monday and Thursday (E3D) or wait until ?!?!
If i can handle Tren I’ll up to 75mg or 100mg if not I’ll just run Test Prop @ 100 EoD and up AI to .5mg if need be.
And I’ll just fill into 1 syringe and inject with slin pins(props to walkaway for converting me to these).
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
looks fine but doses are low, I would start caber when you start the tren.
im assuming you have solid pct?[/quote]
I was thinking of doing the tren for the first 10 weeks then running Test prop for the last 2 weeks(maybe bump it up as well to 100mg EOD for it as well) and then 1 week after last pin I would start PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20.
As for the Caber am I supposed to take that until the last pin of Tren as well? Or take it until the last pin of Prop?
And the reason I had the dosage low is because from reading it sounds like to lower the sides of Tren keep Test on a low dosage. Would I be better off doing Test Prop 100mg EOD instead?
OKay so I decided to change it up and not take Tren but instead take masteron and up the dosage of Test to 75mg or 100mg EOD. And Masteron @ 50mg EOD with the Test, However I am not sure how long I should run it and when in the cycle should I start running it. And @ 50mg EOD I would have enough for 12 weeks or I could do 100mg EOD and it would be enough for 6 weeks.
And What should my AI dosage be when on masteron? I read that it acts somewhat as an AI so then should I lower my dosage of AI when on Masteron to like .125mg EOD? Anyways thanks in advance for the help.
[quote]optheta wrote:
OKay so I decided to change it up and not take Tren but instead take masteron and up the dosage of Test to 75mg or 100mg EOD. And Masteron @ 50mg EOD with the Test, However I am not sure how long I should run it and when in the cycle should I start running it. And @ 50mg EOD I would have enough for 12 weeks or I could do 100mg EOD and it would be enough for 6 weeks.
And What should my AI dosage be when on masteron? I read that it acts somewhat as an AI so then should I lower my dosage of AI when on Masteron to like .125mg EOD? Anyways thanks in advance for the help.[/quote]
Why switch from tren to mast? The results will now be far inferior.
[quote]optheta wrote:
OKay so I decided to change it up and not take Tren but instead take masteron and up the dosage of Test to 75mg or 100mg EOD. And Masteron @ 50mg EOD with the Test, However I am not sure how long I should run it and when in the cycle should I start running it. And @ 50mg EOD I would have enough for 12 weeks or I could do 100mg EOD and it would be enough for 6 weeks.
And What should my AI dosage be when on masteron? I read that it acts somewhat as an AI so then should I lower my dosage of AI when on Masteron to like .125mg EOD? Anyways thanks in advance for the help.[/quote]
Why switch from tren to mast? The results will now be far inferior.[/quote]
[quote]optheta wrote:
OKay so I decided to change it up and not take Tren but instead take masteron and up the dosage of Test to 75mg or 100mg EOD. And Masteron @ 50mg EOD with the Test, However I am not sure how long I should run it and when in the cycle should I start running it. And @ 50mg EOD I would have enough for 12 weeks or I could do 100mg EOD and it would be enough for 6 weeks.
And What should my AI dosage be when on masteron? I read that it acts somewhat as an AI so then should I lower my dosage of AI when on Masteron to like .125mg EOD? Anyways thanks in advance for the help.[/quote]
Why switch from tren to mast? The results will now be far inferior.[/quote]
Tbh the sides of tren have me worried lol [/quote]
I hear you man. I tried tren e one time, sides were pretty bad. But I ran it alongside high test too.
I would really like to give tren another shot in the future, but will try ace.
As for the mast, its not much of a replacement for tren. You’d be better served just upping the test dose as opposed to adding the mast.
[quote]optheta wrote:
OKay so I decided to change it up and not take Tren but instead take masteron and up the dosage of Test to 75mg or 100mg EOD. And Masteron @ 50mg EOD with the Test, However I am not sure how long I should run it and when in the cycle should I start running it. And @ 50mg EOD I would have enough for 12 weeks or I could do 100mg EOD and it would be enough for 6 weeks.
And What should my AI dosage be when on masteron? I read that it acts somewhat as an AI so then should I lower my dosage of AI when on Masteron to like .125mg EOD? Anyways thanks in advance for the help.[/quote]
Why switch from tren to mast? The results will now be far inferior.[/quote]
Tbh the sides of tren have me worried lol [/quote]
I hear you man. I tried tren e one time, sides were pretty bad. But I ran it alongside high test too.
I would really like to give tren another shot in the future, but will try ace.
As for the mast, its not much of a replacement for tren. You’d be better served just upping the test dose as opposed to adding the mast.
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Well from reading it sounds like you still get some of the effects I.E. hardness/strength gains/possible fat loss. Just No were NEAR Tren.
Never run tren myself yet so take this with a grain of salt, but I’ve done a ton of reading and am gonna run it next cycle (hate waiting lol). If you are gonna run it the general wisdom is ED for more stable levels and most people say low test (100-200 EW) with higher tren is much easier on the sides.
As for mast you’d usually see the best results at lower bf% FWIW.