Test/Primo/Anavar - First cycle questions

Going to start my first cycle. I have the test cyp. I have the primo. I don’t have the Anavar. What does the Anavar do in this stack? I recognize that there is a synergistic nature to stacking these. Just wondering what role the Anavar plays?

My plan is: 400mg Test, 400 mg primo, + the Anavar. Still not sure on the frequency of pins. Can I mix the test and primo in the same syringe? Is twice a week too infrequent or should I do 100mg of each EOD?

Is 12 weeks long enough on Primo or should I do 16 weeks?

If this is your first cycle just run the test. That way if it goes sideways you only have one drug to contend with. Save the primo for next time.

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I’ve been on 200mg TRT for a year so I’ve been on a cycle of sorts already. No sides on the test.

Ok, this is fine although I’d prob run primo 600mg/wk

2x per week for both. Var needs to be 2x/day

Yes but with the amount of oil you are using it won’t all fit unless you have higher dosed primo amd/or test

12 weeks is fine

Should I start the anavar at the same time as Primo and Test? I’ve seen other cycles where people have indicated they only used it the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle. And what should the dosage be? I’ve mostly seen 50mg per day.

I think this is your best approach. Especially since it is an additional compound you haven’t run. By the time you get there, you will understand what you feel like with Test + Primo, and if things go sideways (unlikely TBH with Anavar) you will know it is the Anavar.

You can use the anavar whenever you want in the cycle. What is the goal of the cycle?
I would use it either the last 4 weeks of the cycle or in the middle when your lifts stall to give a little extra help.

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Isn’t this the most important question?

  • Can you give us your lifting background?
  • How much do you weigh?
  • How tall are you?
  • How old are you?
  • Would you be willing to post a pic of your physique?
  • Can you give us some idea of how strong you are?
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The goal of the cycle? Look good naked. If there’s another less vain reason, I’m 51 and I’m trying to add as much muscle as I can and keep it. My understanding on primo is it’s less “watery” and better for increasing dense muscle tissue. So, I guess the goal is to build muscle I can keep so I age more like Chuck Norris than your typical broken old man.

51 yoa
6’2, 215 lbs, 15% BF (DEXA)
Lifting lifelong but more serious training in the last 2 years
Last heavy lifts were: BP: 255, Squat: 315, DL: 350

Photo is on 3/1/24 before and after (before on the left) after a 10 week cut. Down from 230-215 and reduced BF by 3 points.

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Well you def don’t look like a “broken” old man.
To answer your question the anavar can be used at anytime in the cycle.
Some guys like to use it in the beginning to "bridge until the other gear reaches full blood saturation. Others like it middle to end to give you a little more gas when your lifts stall. In this cas that is prob how I would use it. 50mg/daily split into 2 doses as the half life is short.

Your age is a factor that needs consideration. As to the amount and time on AAS, it is a matter of weighing risk:reward.

I have no experience taking Primobolin, so you need to consider that.

Why not see what the addition of either Primobolin or Anavar would do in an 8 week cycle? I have always been of the belief that being “on cycle” more than “off cycle” yields the kind of results that I liked.

Both Primobolin and Anavar are on the safer side of AAS. The problem with “safer” is that they also don’t bring the greatest results.

Back in my day, it was believed that Primobolin was a contest anabolic for the last 6 to 8 weeks before a show. (great for muscle sparing as you lose fat, but not particularly good for adding muscle.) It was extremely expensive when I might have used it, so I didn’t.

Let’s assume those are the only AAS you have access to. I would run 8 weeks of 200mg/wk testosterone and 25mg/day of Anavar. Monitor your strength gains. Then take 6 to 8 weeks “off cycle” (which is TRT of 200mg/wk testosterone.)

If you were satisfied with the strength gains, run the next 8 week cycle with 300mg/wk testosterone and the same 25mg/day Anavar.

The following cycle with 400mg/wk testosterone and the same 25mg/day Anavar.

Not being familiar with Primobolin, maybe the high dose Primobolin of 600mg/wk might add muscle. I don’t know, but I do know that 200mg/wk Deca will yield good results.

Bottom line is that your aged body will be more challenged to deal with high doses of AAS, IMO.

At 51 years old your window to add muscle is closing. I have been fighting sarcopenia for about 2 decades and am losing the battle. I wish you the best.

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What happened to test only first cycle, to see how you respond?

Hey that’s a great detail to include in your original post/question

The TRT has been good. I’ve gotten all the good stuff, more lean mass, better sleep, boneriffic libido. I had a little water retention in my face but. It resolved. That’s why I want to give this a try and see if I go from good results to great.

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I ran 300mg primo for 8 weeks with my TRT and LOVED it. Stayed around my normal weight of 265 but was fuller and leaner starting 3 weeks in. Zero sides either, I think you’ll love it, let’s see the results!

Good to know. I’m on week 2 (400mg Test and 400mg primo) and was wondering when I might see/feel something. I’m still on the fence about adding in Anavar. I’ll reevaluate in a couple of weeks. So far just pain in my left ass cheek from pins. Hard to do right handed……

These drugs take time to reach full blood saturation. They are not magic. Your prob not gonna “feel” anything especially using primo. You should start to see an increase in strength and the rest will depend on your diet and training protocol.

Keep you cycle as planned. Add the anavar in later in the cycle when your lift plateau. It will give you and extra boost. Starting it 2 weeks in is senseless.