Hello, I’m a 35 yo man, been weightlifting/ BB’ing since I was 17, currently 5’9" - 183lb (after losing ~15lb recently) with about 15% BF. I’ve done TRT on and off for a few years now using both Test C and P at 200mg/ 1ml per week and had decent results. I have been looking into trying Tren A for the first time and finally purchased 30ml of a Test P/Tren A blend that is 150mg/ 1ml (75mg TP/ 75mg TrA). I would like to keep my dosage on the lower side to assess how it will affect me, especially in the beginning. I plan to take 200 to 300mg a week and injecting ED, but everything I’ve read so far on this combo has said either higher test/ lower tren, or lower test/ higher tren. I have not heard one single person discuss taking them 1:1. Is there any legitimate reason (preferably based on fact) that I should not be taking them both at the same dose? Will this even really matter since I’m running a low dose? and lastly, is there any reason I couldn’t/ shouldn’t gradually increase the amount from 200mg/ wk to 300mg (I think its an obvious question, but thats also not something i’ve seen talked about much)?
I appreciate any guidance you guys might have for me.
Also, this is my first time posting here so forgive me if doing this wrong haha
There is no ratio that needs to be followed. It makes no difference.
For your first time stick to 100-150mg/wk. 0 reason at anytime to run high doses of Tren.
For Tren I’d call “lower side” 75mg a week, not 300mg. That’s just me I guess.
I did 1:1 back in the day along with Mast P, 100mg of each EOD. But that was after playing with compounds and doses for a couple years. I wouldn’t jump into that for a first timer.
Yeah plenty: don’t increase the dose if it’s adverse to your health (if you care). Don’t increase the dose if you don’t need to. If you’re making progress why take more? If you’re not making progress, maybe that’s an argument to increase the dose.
OP — we sound like damn near the same person stats and AAS experience wise. I also recently experimented with Tren A — anywhere from 70-200mg a week while also running 200mg test prop a week.
At 70mg, side effects were minimal, but the Tren-depression kicked in around week 4.
At 200mg, sleep wasn’t great but nothing awful, but the Tren-depression kicked in around week 2.
Caber was of some help, but I didn’t follow any protocol with it and VERY much wish I’d looked into how to deal with that side of tren. Something for you to consider.
Damn, really? Everything I read (forums, articles, med journals) suggested 200 to 300mg a week was a low or “beginner” dose.. My only reasoning for running 200mg a week is I really enjoyed being on that amount of test p and since is 1:1 I have to keep them the same unless I want to buy a separate thing of test.
As for increasing, I completely agree. That is the thought process I had, if im not having sides but not seeing the results I wanted, I was considering slowly increasing. For now though I guess I will stay were I’m at dose wise and decrease/ increase depending on how things go once It’s fully kicked in.
Thanks for the reply btw man.
Well in that case I think you’re advice is pretty valuable since were around the same build/ AAS experience haha.
How were your results at 70mg a week vs. 200? Worth the difference in sides?
Can you explain more about Caber? I hear a lot of people talking about it in regards to running tren, but I’m still not really sure what it is?
I’m currently running 50mg ED of Arimidex as well since that was heavily suggested by a few people. Any tips on what you would’ve done differently protocol wise would be helpful too. I appreciate the reply btw.
Its been around for awhile, I’ve used it on and off since 2014. Its called different things but it’s androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione regardless of what name you call it.