Plan on running quick cycle before summer, have multiple cycles under my belt, all good until last one last year (last few years its only been one per year 3 months generally)it made me a bit crazy long acting test esters and tren enanthate. Anyway new one looks like this 100mg prop and 150 ml eq eod for first 3 weeks then adding 100ml masteron to the mix eod as well, to last about 70 days. Have nolvas on hand incase they are required.
Would like to know if it is better to use hcg and clomid pct or test taper, have never done the taper before, any input welcome. Thanks.
Your cycle is not long enough to reap any type of visual/physiological benefit from its inclusion of EQ. The often stated 12-week minimum is, unfortunately, not a conservative exaggeration.
Also, be weary of overdoing the Masteron dosage. Many people find it to have a very low, tangible cap until its benefits begin to detour into a downward curb.
Im nearing the end of the 4th week of the stasis right now.
Libido is still way up and I “feel” as good as I did during my regular dosing protocol.
The only real difference im noticing so far is the little bit of water I was carrying seems to be gone and the odd pimple on my shoulders that definately were not there pre or during the cycle itself.
Is EQ really needed for 12+ weeks? On the few EQ cyle I’ve done results are topped at the 6-7 week marks, and I maintain them for the reminder. Strenght sometimes keep increasing but the mass gains and endurance - cause EQ gives you that for sure! - are more or less at their peak. I dont “feel” the need to go that much longer. Not very scientific but that’s just me.
I did the Taper PCT just once, and it was indeed my best PCT ever. But I too got zits on the shoulders… and it still bugs me 5 months later with a few coming up here and there, but mostly with the “dead” zits still visible as little red dots. It really pisses me off with summer coming up. Muscles and zits are not a great combo…
BTW LillGuy001 the thing that helped me the most for the zits was a tip by Bill Roberts: use an acylic (?) cleanser followed by an oil-free moisterizer. I’m just trying to find a way for the inactive zits to disappear.
Thanks for all the posts so quick, extending the cycle for 12 weeks is not a problem if that is what is required for eq. However contrl how much is too much for masteron? Think the taper pct is the way to go for me. Again thanks.
[quote]rushman wrote:
I just started a similar cycle last week. I plan on running it for 12 weeks.
Below is my weekly dose.
Test Pro 100mg (EOD)
EQ 375mg (Once a week)
Masteron 300mg (M/W/F)
Tren A 525mg (ED)
PCT will be test taper. Arimix, Clomid and Nolv on hand, if needed?
I agree with Contrl that EQ should be done for a min. of 12 weeks to get the full effects.
I am also very interested on how the hunger of EQ and the appetite killer Tren will counter each other regarding my hunger?
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Not to thread hijack the OP but I’d be concerned about 12 weeks of Tren at 525mg EW and only 350mg Test. Clearly you’re thinking 75mg ED. Have you done this dosage before? If so, what kind of Test dosage did you have? If you don’t have 75mg ED Tren Ace experience let me assure you that the sides take a quantum leap just from 50 to 75. I know many guys myself included who can tolerate 50mg without issues but at 75mg they become problematic. Food for thought.
Also, I still am old school in the belief that your Test should always outweight your nor19.
[quote]g185 wrote:
Thanks for all the posts so quick, extending the cycle for 12 weeks is not a problem if that is what is required for eq. However contrl how much is too much for masteron? Think the taper pct is the way to go for me. Again thanks.[/quote]
12 week + cycle = yes the taper is something you should consider. Regarding Masteron mileage varies of course. Most guys can take 300-350mg a week pretty ok. Beyond that it gets sticky. This is why 100mg EOD is so popular.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
rushman wrote:
I just started a similar cycle last week. I plan on running it for 12 weeks.
Below is my weekly dose.
Test Pro 100mg (EOD)
EQ 375mg (Once a week)
Masteron 300mg (M/W/F)
Tren A 525mg (ED)
PCT will be test taper. Arimix, Clomid and Nolv on hand, if needed?
I agree with Contrl that EQ should be done for a min. of 12 weeks to get the full effects.
I am also very interested on how the hunger of EQ and the appetite killer Tren will counter each other regarding my hunger?
Not to thread hijack the OP but I’d be concerned about 12 weeks of Tren at 525mg EW and only 350mg Test. Clearly you’re thinking 75mg ED. Have you done this dosage before? If so, what kind of Test dosage did you have? If you don’t have 75mg ED Tren Ace experience let me assure you that the sides take a quantum leap just from 50 to 75. I know many guys myself included who can tolerate 50mg without issues but at 75mg they become problematic. Food for thought.
Also, I still am old school in the belief that your Test should always outweight your nor19.[/quote]
First of all, I appreciate your concern.
I have done Tren a few different ways. 75mg ED and EOD. I have even done it without Test and was pretty happy with the end result. I didn’t even have any of the ED sides. I definitely think that running it with Test is ideal though.
The longest Tren cycle I have done is 75mg ED for 10 weeks, along with 500mg of Test E and 300mg of Masteron a week. No sides other than my hairline taking a small beating. I felt great during and after the cycle.
Having said that, If I don’t like how I feel anytime during this one, I will back the Tren down to 50mg a day. I was also entertaining the idea of bumping up the Test P to 150mg EOD?
I have come to the conclusion that Tren is a very individual thing. It affects me differently than most people who take it.
Sounds good. I think you ran 75ED before than you should be ok again. I do like the 150EOD on the Prop since you ran 500 of Enanthate last time you ran 75ED
[quote]cadav wrote:
i like the test based cycle.
and I use Adex with the test (always). I have found in .23/.5 EOD the best solution (based on total Test IM)
Also a low carb profile help me a lot avoiding bloat. However i am a no-carbo man, i have very little tollerance to high carb meal.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m going to give Adex a try this time.
Like I said before, I was on a very clean, low carb diet. Plus, I was doing cardo 5-6 days a week and I still got that damn bloat off of 500mg of Test E.
[quote]rushman wrote:
cadav wrote:
i like the test based cycle.
and I use Adex with the test (always). I have found in .23/.5 EOD the best solution (based on total Test IM)
Also a low carb profile help me a lot avoiding bloat. However i am a no-carbo man, i have very little tollerance to high carb meal.
Yeah, I’m going to give Adex a try this time.
Like I said before, I was on a very clean, low carb diet. Plus, I was doing cardo 5-6 days a week and I still got that damn bloat off of 500mg of Test E.[/quote]
Sounds like you need the adex then Rush.
At least that was the extent of your estro issues eh?!!
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
rushman wrote:
cadav wrote:
i like the test based cycle.
and I use Adex with the test (always). I have found in .23/.5 EOD the best solution (based on total Test IM)
Also a low carb profile help me a lot avoiding bloat. However i am a no-carbo man, i have very little tollerance to high carb meal.
Yeah, I’m going to give Adex a try this time.
Like I said before, I was on a very clean, low carb diet. Plus, I was doing cardo 5-6 days a week and I still got that damn bloat off of 500mg of Test E.
Sounds like you need the adex then Rush.
At least that was the extent of your estro issues eh?!!
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Yeah, I’m going to start it next week. I’m only in week two, so I can wait until then.
For the record, I fcking love Tren. That sht is Amazing.
