Test Enth, Dbol, Proviron Cycle

was it ‘O’?

[quote] Brook wrote:
was it ‘O’?[/quote]

Yes my friend. I expect to get my hands on the goods some time next week. I’ll keep you posted.

surprising

what is mate? that they gonna sort him out?

[quote] Brook wrote:
what is mate? that they gonna sort him out?[/quote]

Hey Saps, I’m curious too? What is “surprising”? That this source dropped the ball in the first place OR that they agreed to compensate me?

[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:

Hey Saps, I’m curious too? What is “surprising”? That this source dropped the ball in the first place OR that they agreed to compensate me OR that I may order from them again?[/quote]

Fixed. :slight_smile:

[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:

Hey Saps, I’m curious too? What is “surprising”? That this source dropped the ball in the first place OR that they agreed to compensate me OR that I may order from them again?

Fixed. :)[/quote]

Touché…

Dropped the ball in the first place was my surprise; nobody is perfect though

[quote]saps wrote:
Dropped the ball in the first place was my surprise; nobody is perfect though[/quote]

You are right of course. Why does it always seem to happen when you really don’t want to waste time? I’ve learned to really spell details out too, in order to avoid future miscommunications.

Glad to hear it’s finally starting to work out for you.

[quote]xXDevilDogXx wrote:
Glad to hear it’s finally starting to work out for you.[/quote]

Thanks for your support DD…

I want to get pins ready since hopefully my order will arrive soon.

Please advise best pins to use for the following:

  1. Test enanthate 0.6ml EOD (from 10 ml vial 250mg/ml) = 525mg/week

  2. hCG 250IU EOD (pins for reconstituting as well as recommended amount of biostatic water to reconstitute with, and pin for EOD dosage of 250IU).

  3. Best way to measure out oral dose of Adex 0.5mg EOD = 1.75mg/week. I believe it is 14 drops in a shot glass, drink, add water to get residue, drink.

  4. Any tips on the best way to load syringes and not dull needle as well as best practices to keep 10ml vials of test enanthate.

[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
I want to get pins ready since hopefully my order will arrive soon.

Please advise best pins to use for the following:

  1. Test enanthate 0.6ml EOD (from 10 ml vial 250mg/ml) = 525mg/week

  2. hCG 250IU EOD (pins for reconstituting as well as recommended amount of biostatic water to reconstitute with, and pin for EOD dosage of 250IU).

  3. Best way to measure out oral dose of Adex 0.5mg EOD = 1.75mg/week. I believe it is 14 drops in a shot glass, drink, add water to get residue, drink.

  4. Any tips on the best way to load syringes and not dull needle as well as best practices to keep 10ml vials of test enanthate.[/quote]

No need to inject test E quite that often. E3D is lots. Use a 20GA pin to pull the product from the vial and either a 23GA or 25GA to inject. Buy 1.5" pins, however if you arent all that big then dont attempt to bury them in the muscle if you are using delts. Quads and either glute spot should be fine almost all the way in.

You can use the same pin to load multiple syringes and then switch the tip to the new one that came on the barrel.

Depending on where you purchased your adex from there may be a measured dropper within the solution. Thats the way mine always comes. Your dose also seems rather high for the amount of AAS you plan to use. .25mg EOD should be lots and bring up that amount if problems start to arise. I would also wait till midway though week 2 to start adex use.

Keep the test in a cool dry place and out of direct sunlight.

With the hcg it depends on how strong you want to make your solution and how many mg of hcg comes in the powder form. Any insulin pin will work. Its easiest to make the hcg into a solution that is 1000iu/ml and therefore 25iu (being a 1/4ml or cc) on a slin pin will yield you 250iu of hcg.

Hey LillGuy,

Thanks so much for your insight. It is very helpful in shaping up my game plan and avoiding annoyances/problems.

[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
I want to get pins ready since hopefully my order will arrive soon.

Please advise best pins to use for the following:

  1. Test enanthate 0.6ml EOD (from 10 ml vial 250mg/ml) = 525mg/week

  2. hCG 250IU EOD (pins for reconstituting as well as recommended amount of biostatic water to reconstitute with, and pin for EOD dosage of 250IU).

  3. Best way to measure out oral dose of Adex 0.5mg EOD = 1.75mg/week. I believe it is 14 drops in a shot glass, drink, add water to get residue, drink.

  4. Any tips on the best way to load syringes and not dull needle as well as best practices to keep 10ml vials of test enanthate.

No need to inject test E quite that often. E3D is lots. Use a 20GA pin to pull the product from the vial and either a 23GA or 25GA to inject. Buy 1.5" pins, however if you arent all that big then dont attempt to bury them in the muscle if you are using delts. Quads and either glute spot should be fine almost all the way in.

[/quote]

Yes, I am realizing EOD is overkill. I was thinking that might be good just to keep it simple since adex and hCG is EOD. I’ll go with E3D for test E.

Any special storage for loaded pins? Can/should I load a whole 10ml vial into syringes at one time?

I haven’t opened mine yet, but I am sure it has a graduated dropper. I think I will reduce to .25mg EOD to start, especially since I will be using Proviron rom the get go. It should help to mitigate my high SHBG level and also assist in controlling estrogen.

As for starting the adex 2 weeks in; shouldn’t I start it right at the beginning since I will be using a dbol kickstart for the first 4 weeks at 30mg/d?

Common sense, but never hurts to reenforce good practices.

I like the 1000iu/ml recipe. That keeps it simple. And yes, a slin pin is the way to go.

[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:

Yes, I am realizing EOD is overkill. I was thinking that might be good just to keep it simple since adex and hCG is EOD. I’ll go with E3D for test E.[/quote]

Uh… i do hope you werent thinking of injecting your adex… :confused:

[quote]
Any special storage for loaded pins? Can/should I load a whole 10ml vial into syringes at one time?[/quote]

Why would you empty a sterile vial into an unsterile pin to store? No, you leave the gear where it is and just draw what and when you are going to use.

I would, yes… but the idea is to see if you need to - you may be one of the guys who do not get gyno from AAS - ask Saps :wink:

Sorry for cutting in Lilguy! ;p

JJ

This is my revised plan:

  1. Test Enanthate: [W 1-10] 0.9ml ( 225mg) E3D = 525mg/wk (#25 1.5" 1cc pins)

  2. hCG: [W 1-10] 250iu EOD (Reconstitute 5000iu vial with 2.5 ml biostatic water to yield 1000iu/0.5ml, then simply fill a .5ml .5" #29 insulin syringe and use for 4 shots. Refrigerate between shots)

  3. Adex: [W 1-10] .25mg EOD (.25ml)

  4. Dbol: [W 1-4] 10mg 3x/d (Since Dianabol’s half-life time is only 3.2 - 4.5 hours (1) application at least twice a day is necessary to achieve a somewhat even concentration of the substance in the blood.

It is recommended that the tablets be taken during meals so that possible gastrointestinal pains can be avoided. Dianabol reaches the blood after 1-3 hours. A simple application of only 10 mg results in a 5-fold increase in the average testosterone concentration in the male.)

  1. Proviron: [W 1-10] 25mg 2x/d (Morning/evening or together)

No PCT because I will be going directly into TRT (105mg/wk test E, 0.125mg Adex EOD, 250iu hCG EOD, 25mg Proviron/d)

lol

Hey JJ,

Nice legs.

[quote] Brook wrote:

Uh… i do hope you werent thinking of injecting your adex… :confused:
[/quote]

No buddy. Just thought that doing everything on the same day might be an easier regimen to follow. I know Adex is oral.

Yeah. I guess it makes no sense to economize on syringes. Keeping things sterile is more important.

I have a problem with that concept. I know you guys have tons of experience, but I really want to keep estrogen in check to maximise free T levels (even more than to control gyno). With each increment in free T level, I can feel better and stronger.

I know estrogen must not go too low either or I’ll feel like crap. I’ll definitely keep a close eye on it. I have already decided to decrease my dose from .5mg EOD to .25mg EOD.

[quote]
Sorry for cutting in Lilguy! ;p

JJ[/quote]

Your input is always valued JJ.

fair enough on all points except; the last statement…

What do you mean? how does keeping estrogen ‘in check’ increase free test levels? I feel like i am missing something here - am i being a little slow?!

Are you thinking of proviron’s effects on SHBG?

[quote] Brook wrote:
fair enough on all points except; the last statement…

What do you mean? how does keeping estrogen ‘in check’ increase free test levels? I feel like i am missing something here - am i being a little slow?!

Are you thinking of proviron’s effects on SHBG?[/quote]

The way I understand it is that the higher one’s estrogen level (males), the more total T that has been diverted (aromatizing to estrogen) thus reducing free T.

I am talking about Adex usage. Proviron will have a synergistic maximization of free T as well with it’s dual effects of inhibiting testosterone from binding to SHBG and reduction of test aromatizing to estrogen.