500mg test-e, 300mg tren-e, 30 superdrol ed. Anyone run similar cycles? How was it?
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Yeah… Did you run the sd the whole cycle? Also, I’ve only run lower test then tren, 300test 400tren, sides weren’t bad. How are the sides with sd thrown in there.
I haven’t taken superdrol
Or tren
but that combo in particular is absolutely hell on lipids. Seriously, there are alternatives that won’t drive you straight into a heart attack by the time you hit your 40s
5% or so of the population has GREAT genetics, and for some reason these drugs hardly seem to budge any parameters/markers on blood or imaging that would be indicative of cumulative damage stemming from steroid use. These people can keep using with seemingly few repercussions just as some anomalies can smoke two packs a day and live til 95.
Do you know if you are one of the genetic elite?
Now… If you are a fitness model or a competitive athlete disregard my advice, as there is a difference between recreational use for personal gain and PIED use where your livelihood is at stake.
HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) ratios are skewed TERRIBLY by superdrol. Look into the effect hepatic lipase has on lipids and the effect c17 AA anabolics have on HTGL (degrades HDL). In addition to this, oral anabolics skyrocket bad cholesterol and tend to elevate triglycerides.
Tren also wrecks havok on lipids (low HDL, increased LDL) but not to the extent of superdrol. That combo is so… so bad for you.
If you still want to take it, I’d worry about fluctuations in blood sugar (lots of people report going hypo on tren and superdrol). Long term you are looking at a massive amount of cumulative damage.
If you want to run tren and sdrol for a month or two (and you don’t run them again) you’ll (probably) be fine.
@hankthetank89 has taken some large combos, but I don’t think he’s ever taken superdrol. I doubt that’d even be available/known about out where he lives. @hankthetank89 also represents the genetically elite in that he is averse to negative side effects… but also appears to respond very poorly to lower dosages… Double edged sword there…
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Thanks. The tren does my LDL pretty bad but not horrible… not to mention the resting heart rate and blood pressure. Will run a cycle with the sdrol added though. Haven’t done a proper blast in over a year. Probably won’t do another blast after this until late next year. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it.
Haven’t run it. What are your starting point stats (is the avatar you?)? What are your goals? What have you considered for alternatives to this cycle?
Sweet Jesus in the morning. Was this on that spreadsheet you shared a while back or is this new experiment? Where is your test only baseline for the negative control?
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I wish you health with all those muscles. Take care of yourself.
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5’7, 185 in the profile pic, 6 weeks on test, tren and var. Was at 197 after 16 weeks, not sure what bf% was but my waist was 30". Sitting at 177 now, off cycle for over a year, everything is back to baseline, no trt. Alternative was just running the test and tren with no orals. Trying to break 200lbs lean is the goal without having a stroke or heart attack.
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Have you ever run nandrolone?
while not suggesting there are cutting and bulking aas, seems those 23lbs would come easier with NPP.
I’m not quite as lean as you in my avatar/profile pic but close. Thats me at 5’7" and 205lbs. I’ve been as heavy as 215lbs with about same composition as well. I had most of my growth with Test Cyp only or Test/Mast. I quit blasting a little while back but even on TRT/HGH at replacement doses I’m able to hold 200lbs now. Thats where I sit today give or take 1-2lbs. My point is I don’t think you need to push the anabolics that hard to reach your goal.
Here’s the million dollar question. Are you going to just rent the muscle again and lose it? So what if you hit your 200lb goal, then what? You were 197 before and back to 177lbs. My second point is do you want to risk your health for rented muscle? Maybe reconsider your approach or consider Testerone Optimization through a clinic. I hate to saying that as I am an advocate for legitmate TRT practices. I would just rather see you under scripted supervision and making steady keepable gains than risking your health for rented muscle.
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What is popular for stacks seems to switch back and forth as time goes on. For awhile it was low Test and add in other compounds, now it seems to be going towards using high test and support drugs like AIs and 5 AR inhibitors to improve the side effect profile of high Test. I think I favor that approach.
I think for your goals that perhaps just using Test could work, but it would probably require you to blast and cruise. Cruise at a high TRT dose (150 mg - 200 mg/wk), and blast from double the cruise up to perhaps 4X. I think you could actually keep the gains vs blowing up to 200, but then in a year being 180.
I agree here.
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Thank you guys. I will look in to nandrolone and become more educated about other compounds as well. But yes, the goal is to break and sustain over 200lbs of lean mass, cruising on trt between blasts and steady blood work, and of course with consistent training which I’ve failed at for the last year, mostly due to relocating and employment security.
On another note, @blshaw , I’ve considered mast before but was hesitant due to fear of receding hairline. How’d that go?
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I am not blshaw, but Mast is well known to be tough on hair for the guys prone to it. All AAS have this side effect, but stuff like Mast, Primo and Tren are the worst offenders.
The best option for hair safety is Test + Finasteride or Dutasteride. Tbol is probably the next best option, but it’s an oral, doesn’t produce estrogen, etc. You would want to run Test with it in most cases.
Another route that works for some is low Test base (like 100 mg/wk) with Nandralone as the main builder. Don’t use Finasteride or Dutasteride with high doses of Nandralone.
You can also look into topical androgen blockers while on blast. I am not aware of any of them being FDA approved, but lots of people do use them. I shed almost no hair on the last blast with Finasteride and RU58841 (applied about 50 mg about 3X a week). Like less shedding than during cruising on Test and Finasteride. Of course this comes with risk, as these are research chemicals. I don’t recommend them, just mentioning that I’ve used them and think they work.
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@mnben87 covered it. I have early balding in my family so I shave my head. If it’s a concern of yours you probably don’t want DHT derivatives.
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