51 male on 200 to 500mg TestC, 4iu HGH & 30mcg igf1-lr3 post lift.
Going to start a TestC, Masteron, Anavar & Proviron run while keeping the HGH and stopping the igf1-lr3 about 4 weeks in.
No bald men in my family but the amount of DHT has me worried.
Purchased Dutasteride as a preemptive oral to put a lid on the DHT to the scalp. .5mg looks like the daily dose to regrow hair but aside from some receding hairline not sure i need to regrow anything. Just want to make sure I don’t start to lose any.
With this in mind would the .5mg MWF be OK with the long half life being a preemptive measure.
Not sure i understand both sides of the reply. If I’m taking dut and I inject testosterone won’t that keep the DHT from even becoming a thing? Sounds like a win.
DUT blocks 90% of DHT. So if I take DUT orally shouldn’t the DUT in my bloodstream kill off the DHT before it becomes an issue for my hair?
I “admit” that I started using chatgpt for things like this. It’s much easier than googling.
Here’s a screenshot of what it says on this topic and take from that what you will. From what I can understand, @blshaw is correct in that dutasteride won’t protect your hair if you’re pinning a synthetic dht analogue like masteron.
Interesting approach! I’ve avoided those services but that’s really cool how it laid out the info in an easy to read fashion. I need to catch up with the times.
Appreciate. What are your feelings on a topical solution? Just trying to mitigate hair loss as mush as possible feom Tren, Primobolan and Masteron.
Using a nioxin shampoo now to thicking things up before the cycle.
RU keeps coming up but appears it has some side effects.
Torn just to run it and monitor my crown but afraid when I notice it may be to late.
What about topical minoxidil along with the nioxin shampoo?
I’m also going to ease into the cycle. Read that allot of the hair issues are due to starting a cycle at the run rate and not titrating up. It shocks the system getting almost a gear of anabolics all at once and not easing into it.
That’s my point you can’t using any of the XYZsterides. These will only assist with DHT converted from your Testosterone. The synthetic derivatives are already DHTs and harsh on your hairline, well not Tren but the others. No blockage possible.
Systemically but allot of posts on RU58841 stopingbthe issue at the scalp. Bloodstream still tanked with DHT but at the scalp these posters appear to feel RU can stop the follicles from breaking down.
Many users complained of cardiac issues and some concerns on long term heart damage. I don’t know the dosages or length of cycles but scary stuff.
With a full head of hair I’m going to watch my volumes of anabolics. Also going to run Tren for instance on the back end of the cycle and not the full 12 weeks.
Could be that placebo effect …. Here is my personal experience. never had hair issues. When got older (almost 50), don’t often run hard stuff much, so hard to say at this age, what some of the more hard stuff would do to my hair. But prim thins my hair. Crazy, because wasn’t really even high dose, I like it even on cruise or especially when trimming down. But soon will see hair when I take my hat off…. I started using rogaine and again, could be placebo, but felt it made difference in filling in from thinning than preventing thinning. There is one study that it assists on front thinning (old study from like 2014), which is my issue. It’s a pain, because have to be consistent twice a day every day. I keep hair short anyway (4/1) and am fine when it goes (won’t look to different than short buzz anyway).
It’s really very simple, if you truly care about keeping all the hair on your head, and you wish to run Tren, Mast, Proviron, primobolan….but IMO mainly TREN, then, well, good luck! If your mother’s father was bald, or if there are just a lot of men in your family with thinning/no hair, you’re going to be fighting one epic battle. To a friend of mine who would rather get shot with a gun rather than lose a single hair, I told him his best bet would be to either abstain from PED’s completely, or to run lower dosages of maybe just test/EQ….BUT, I advised him to apply Rogaine to his hair at a MIN of 2x a day, religiously, but I advised against Propecia. There’s another post where i discuss all the awful side effects of that drug….stay away from it. But man, for me, when I introduced Tren into my regimen (which, on another tangent, if you are not competing in BB’ing or powerlifting, just DON’T take the stuff, the sides are pretty harsh[mood, irritability, anger, hair, sweats, tren cough, etc] and not worth it for just trying to get big) my hair did a mutiny on me and just started shedding very, very fast from the top of my head. I did everything I could to try to keep it but nothing seemed to work. I knew MPB would get me due to other men in my family, but NOT at 34. But I was competing and it was a tradeoff.
But all you guys wanting to have your cake and eat it too….man, you gotta figure out what you prioritize the most….muscles or hair. It’s very difficult to have both IF your are prone to MPB. If you don’t know if you are prone, well, take some primo/mast/proviron for a bit and check your pillow…you’ll see soon enough. No need to take tren to see.
Does it grow back or are you just slowly going bald permanently and fighting the fight.
The primo shit scares me because that’s what im running next. I worked up to this by running Test only cycles. 300mg kept E2 at 61 with no sides and I felt good. Went to 500mg and while my nipples were fine I got acne bad on my chest and arms and E2 was 141. To high for my liking. I have every available compound. I truly only have 1 cycle this year and maybe 2 next year. Unfortunately I bought enough shit for 4 years at least. I keep changing the injectable from EQ, to Primo to Mast and back again. I didn’t lose hair on the 500mg of testosterone but it was only about a month as I had a mishap on the anavar I was sent. It was dbol and I dosed it like anavar. Really screwed me up water weight wise.
Here is what I plan on running. Also started a nioxin shampoo and it could be placebo but my hair does feel thicker.
300mg testosterone cypinate(seems to be my sweet spot not a TRT dose which is 140mg)
400mg Primo
120mg Tren Ace (weeks 7-12)
50mg Turinabol (oral kickstart weeks 1-6)
25mg daily Proviron
May be able to run Primo a little lower or test a little higher once I get labs back after week 6 and see how they look. I prefer to keep the same if possible then I’ll get labs after week 12 and see what the change from dbol to the tren did, if anything to the lab work.
I was going to run the Tren the entire run but the hair has me spooked with almost a gram of gear a week.
My diet I feel is locked in but still have 15 pounds before ideal weight and was hoping the Tren could offset the EQ appetite increase but even EQ can be tough on hair. The tren everyone agrees is a serious muscle builder and assist with fat loss.
I hear you. And why im asking the questions. Also why I looked into RU58881 but don’t want to risk a cardiac event 9f I’m one of the lucky that can run gear with no hair issues.
When you say Rogaine you mean minoxidil, correct.
No baldness in the family, either side. I’ll be the 1st. Also, if 8 start to lose hair I’ll bail on the cycle or at least put it way back.
Yes, minoxidil is just the name of the actual drug, Rogaine is the brand name. I don’t know much about the RU drug, but I’d be wary since, isn’t it still a “research chem”? I don’t think I’ve seen it approved for public general use yet. lol, not to mention anything that has a cardia risk I’d be pretty worried about. Again, not much good to have hair but die of a heart attack, or have one and be severely physically weakened.
I say you just get you some minoxidil and if you start to notice you are shedding hair, start rubbing that shit into your scalp religiously! It’s good that there isn’t baldness in your family, that’ll surely help. But if you want to see what taking gear does to most men, look no further than the ranks of professional bodybuilders! I’d say probably 80% or higher of the men have shaved heads, and no, it’s not because they just happen to like how it looks….it’s because their hair has started falling out or it has all fallen out.
Appreciate all the feedback and general concern. Agreed, RU 58881 is indeed a research chem and was abandoned because of the cardiac issues. However, a shitton of guys running it that have said it kept their hair on gear and a shit ton that felt chest tightness. No one really mentions dosages or time on compound so not sure if it can be run safely if you can even say that for just 15 weeks or so to complete a cycle and cover a few weeks for washout.
Minoxidil is fairly inexpensive so see no reason not to just run it for the duration of the cycle. Doesn’t seem to have any real concerning side effects that I can find.
