Test + deca cycle, erectile disfunction post cycle

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Hello, first time posting here sorry if I break any rules.

I ve been on 400 ml test 400 ml deca for 12 weeks. 12 days after last injection I’ve started HCG 2500iu eod, 15000iu in total. After finishing HCG(4 weeks after last test/deca injection) I started taking 100mg clomid and 30mg tamoxifen daily for 10 days. Its been two weeks ever since I finished the pct and my sexual performance isnt back to normal. I struggle to keep my erection throughout the whole sex act, it gets up and all but its just hard to keep it on for the whole session. My balls are also smaller than normal still.

Was the PCT enough or i should ve continued clomid/tamo more time? And now, should I just give it more time for my body to recover naturally and not worry or should I get my hormones checked?

Thanks in advance!

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You only ran your Serms for 10 days? You should pull bloods for TT, FT, E2, FSH and Lh to see if you’re recovered st all

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Yeah, first HCG for about 12 days then Serms for 10 days. Thats how I was told by the guy where I got the gear from, I read online that I should run Serms for 4 weeks but I didnt have enough either, he gave me exactly for 10 days. I will get those tests done and reply with the results.

Thanks for the quick reply!

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Yeah definitely need to run the serm longer. But you also only need one serm, tamoxifen being preferred by most.

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Results came: TT - 8.51nmol/L (8.64 - 29)
E2 - 55.27 pmol/L (41.4 - 159)
FSH - 0.72 mUI/mL (1.5 - 12.4)
LH - 4.14 mUI/mL (1.7 - 8.6)
FT - will update later once it comes, i ve put between brackets the normal levels they should be at according to the clinic I went to. What do you think?

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Yeah your FSH indicates your HPTA is still struggling to fire. Talk to the clinic about running your SERM longer. Prob another 6 weeks.

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You’ve still got lots of Nandrolone in your system I’d reckon. And your PCT was waaaaaay too short.

Anyway, as the answer to most questions asked on here, go get blood work and see if your HPTa is still shut down (I’m gonna wager it is), and then wait for the Nandrolone to clear and run a PCT again for 6-8 weeks. Good luck

EDIT: I see your blood work, yep your HPTa is still suppressed from the long estered Nandrolone.

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Its been 2 months since last deca shot, you reckon its still surpressing after this long?

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You’ll get varying opinions on the Decanoate HL, and would depend on your genetics, but last I read was 75 days, roughly, for full clearance. That would be 10 weeks, give or take. You would know by getting blood work.

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Do you guys think I can recover with maca, ashwagandha and other natural medicines?

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No. These will not be sufficient to restart your HTPA

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I dont have where to get serms anymore, what should I do in this case then?

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there are plenty of research chem websites that have them… easy to acquire.

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Hi
In my opinion your cycle is pretty much all wrong,as there is nandrolone in it.Test should allmost allways be 2 to 1 ratio to deca.And because of decas extreme supression of your hormone levels,HCG should be run from first days of your cycle 2 x 500iu/week ---- >last jab 3-4 days before PCT…PCT should allwys be Clomifeen 100/100/50/50,four weeks and tamoksifeen 20/20/20/20/20/20,six weeks.Can try 0,125 mg arimidex1-2/week on pct but i dont recommend this. Deca is stacking week after week so PCT timing is difficult.4-5 weeks at least.If you wont recover after PCT i would jump on trt 150mg/week+HCG 2 x 500iu/week for maybe 6 weeks and do PCT again.

Hope this will answer to your problems,this is good basic cycle health and PCT prilenciple to allmost any cycle.

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I dont use deca and npp anymore because dd and recovery problems.In my experience dd and recovery becomes an issue at 300mg and upwards.400-800mg is usually problematic to most users.I have seen many serious shutdowns.One case is ongoing right now,he chose trt for now.Still suffering from limpdick and numbness in his rod I advised him to take 20mg/ED/test C and HCG/100iu/ED for steady test levels and normal:ish hoemone levels.His own test levels are now under normal levels.He suffered dd 2 times in his cycle,he went against my advice after first one witch i fixed with masteron.What in this is good to notice is that he pinned deca 2 x 50mg/week,only .So nandrolone is a seriuous compound and not for everyone.I agree that it is awesome massbuilder but side effects are no joke.

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My HTPA wont restart on its own if I cant get my hands on SERMs again? And do I risk anything? And if I manage to get SERMs again do I just start taking them like in a pct protocol?

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Sometimes after deca test levels wont comeback to same as they were at all. Hormone levels sometimes rise very slowly with time,sometimes recovery wont happen without proper pct at all.You will feel shitty and lose your gains and then some and it will be long time without proper pct after nandrolone.

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I’ve done HCG and 10 days of 100mg clomid daily + 30mg tamo, but it clearly wasnt enough

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If you cant get pct gear now then jump on trt/hrt for some time,that wont hurt and if you got hcg 500iu x 2/week you will be fine to wait.

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do trt for 4-6 weeks to clear deca away and use testprop at end of trt to start pct faster. then pct 4 weeks clomi and 6 weeks tamo.You used way too much hcg first time.Your gearguy is clueless idiop to give instructions like that.Limpdick and numbness was guaranteed .did you use any ai in cycle?that combo is estrogeengine without ai.

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