Test/Deca 2nd Cycle

Pharma
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Hey guys,

I’m pretty new here. I’m from Holland so my English is not very good haha;)
My first cycle was 500 mg test for like 9 weeks, I had pretty good gains. Too bad I got a shoulder injury in that cycle. I still got it:( This was a year ago, now im planning to do my next cycle within next week.

My stats now are;

103-104 kg
15%
185 cm

My cycle looks like this

frontload;

1-2 1000 mg test e
1-2 400 mg deca

2-12 500 mg test e
2-8 200 mg deca ( maybe for 10 week, dont know for sure )

from week 5 till the end some hcg

15-18 nolvadex

What do you think?

btw, is it possible to post some workouts when I begin?

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You can definitely post a log of your workouts if you want, others have (e.g. Randizo). Do you have a dopamine agonist and an AI ready for this cycle?

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I have arimidex. btw I have also finasteride, but im not sure to use it while on cycle.

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I have arimidex. btw I have also finasteride against hairloss, but im not sure to use it while on cycle.

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Do you know what you’re doing with the Arimidex, though? And do you have a dopamine agonist like Caber ready?

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[quote]Rational Gaze wrote:
Do you know what you’re doing with the Arimidex, though? And do you have a dopamine agonist like Caber ready?[/quote]

I’m only using Arimidex when I have itchy nipples/gyno together with some nolva. Caber? Never heard of it before, but im not planning to use a dopamine agonist while on this cycle.

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Adex is to test as Caber is to Deca, (roughly) to put it simply…

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Also I would run the deca for 10 weeks. Actually, to make it perfect, I’d run it to 12 weeks and do 14 weeks of test…Just my opinion

Also, I’d start PCT week 14, not 15

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[quote]Jacked fibraz wrote:
Also I would run the deca for 10 weeks. Actually, to make it perfect, I’d run it to 12 weeks and do 14 weeks of test…Just my opinion

Also, I’d start PCT week 14, not 15[/quote]

Why so long. Seems stupid to me.

What would be accomplished with 16 weeks of suppression that couldnt be accomplished with 12 weeks of supression after a frontload?

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^^^ That.

16 weeks is a long time to be suppressed, if recovery is a concern.

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Exactly, 12 weeks is enough to me. 7 may I get my first shot, hopefully I dont get test flu or something like that;)

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When I said 12 weeks of supression I meant a 10 week cycle. But to each their own.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]Jacked fibraz wrote:
Also I would run the deca for 10 weeks. Actually, to make it perfect, I’d run it to 12 weeks and do 14 weeks of test…Just my opinion

Also, I’d start PCT week 14, not 15[/quote]

Why so long. Seems stupid to me.

What would be accomplished with 16 weeks of suppression that couldnt be accomplished with 12 weeks of supression after a frontload?[/quote]

If you want to compare them like that, you could also say “If you’re supressed for 12 weeks already, might as well push the 4 more”…But I digress

I just gave my opinion. I am growing fond of longer cycles but yes, as mentioned, if recovery is an issue, then better to stick to shorter cycles. Either way, I would run the deca just 2 weeks shorter than the test. Again, just my opinion…

Not going against Ots and bonez. They are far more experienced than me so listen to them for good advice

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This is my training schedule, first time fst-7 for me.

Check it out;

FST-7
Monday;
Barbell Benchpress: 4x 8-12
Incline Dumbell press: 4x 8-12
Incline Cable flyâ??s: 4x 8-12
Cable crossover ( upper chest ): 7x 8-12

Barbell curls: 4x 8-12
Concentration Dumbell curls: 3x 8-12
Hammer curls: 4x 8-12
Machine preacher curls: 7x 8-12

Tuesday;

Squat: 4x 8-12
Leg press: 4x 8-12
Leg Extentions: 7x 8-15

Single Leg Curls: 3-4 x 10-15 elk been
Seated Leg Curls: 7 x 10-15

Standing Calf Raises: 4 x 10-12
Seated Calf Raises: 4 x 10-12
Leg Press Toe Presses: 7 x 10-12

Wednesday;

Hanging leg raises: 4x8-12
Rope Crunches: 7x 10-15
45 min cardio

Thursday;

Deadlift: 4x 8-12
Wide-grip Pullups: 4x 6-10
Barbell rows: 4x 8-12
Close grip pulldown: 4x 8-12
Cable Pullover: 7 x 8-15

Face pulls: 4x 15-20
Barbell shrugs: 7x 8-12

Friday;

Smith Machine front press: 4x 8-12
Dumbell front raises: 4x 8-12
Dumbell Side raises: 4x 8-12
Machine shoulder press: 7x 8-12
Bent Over Dumbbell Raises: 4x 8-12

Close-grip Bench Press: 4 x 8-12
Dips: 4x 8-12
Skull Crushers: 4x 8-12)
Overhead Cable Extensions: 7 x 8-12

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Im beginning 10 may with that training program. Finishing each muscle group with 7 sets ( 12-15 )