Test C+EQ Cycle

Pharma / TRT
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Hi all so after almost 4 years of serious working out and 2 years of serious lurking i need some help/opinions for my first cycle.

Age:24 (25 this june)
Height:5’8
Weight:175LBS
BF%: roughly 11-13%
Running 10 week cycle
Test C: w 1-10 600mg a week (2x300mg fri/mon)
EQ: w 1-10 400mg a week (2z200mg fri/mon)
AI: Letrozole splitting 2.5mg pills taking a 1/4 E3d
PCT: Nolva w 11 25mg 2xday w 12-14 25 mg a day
Supplements: Whey 35g protein shakes,3600mg of fish oil a day 1200x3,3600mg of flax oil a day 1200x3,and 4000iu of vitamin D
Goal: 200LBS hoping to stay at about 190 after PCT and get BF down to maybe 9-10%

Questions:

1)I don’t find very much about letrozole (i couldn’t get any adex) on the forms except for a few post talking about how strong it is and to take .25mg-.50mg eod i’m taking a little a more since i can’t spit the pills any more than 1/4 i’m taking a 1/4 of 2.5mg e3d is this okay for ai?

2)being that this is my first test cycle (i’ve done oral gear b4… wasn’t to satisfied. i did a 6w cycle of winny n a 6w var cycle about a year apart) I was wondering if my goals are realistic on a 10w cycle of TEST n EQ im doing a 6 day split (arms/legs/shoulders/back/chest in this order) and alternating between chest and arms for doing a 2x a week being that these body parts i feel need the most work o and i do calves 2x a week cuz i need to balance out legs as well

Comments:
My diet goes something like this in the morning i drink a 35g protein shake with 1 table spoon of olive oil,milk and a banana in it go to wrk eat n every 2.5 hours frm then i eat the same thing all day… half a plate of chicken and half a plate of veggies.

i get home have another shake same recipe hit the gym get home from the gym another shake then after i shower n relax a bit i eat dinner which is usually a quarter plate of rice half a plate of chicken and another quarter of veggies…

on the weekend i usually cheat but not like ice cream candy ect… it’ll go something like this have pancakes eggs and beacon for breakfast,a whole pizza for lunch,and a burger with french fries from a mom and pop shop for dinner… and i do have 2 shakes usually on those days as well right when i wake up and before i sleep.

i was considering “frontloading” but decided not to cuz it’s my first time

please any good information/suggestions/correction/opinions would be greatly appreciated

i’ll post some no flex pics just so you get an idea of my body type and were i am right now and if i get a good response i’ll post the after 10 week results

P.S. i tore my acl last year thats why my left leg is a little big bigger than my right leg

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http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/QiCSLvR/DSC01450.jpg (i already have bacne without gear i hope it doesn’t get even worse LOL)

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/QiCSLvR/DSC01436.jpg (lol okay okay maybe a little flexed here)

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc69/QiCSLvR/DSC01448.jpg (deadlifting scab on left leg haha)

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Those picture links do not work for me. And may I ask why you are against frontloading?

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If you have bacne right now it will get worse on cycle.

Wish I could have seen your pictures, you sound lean but a little light. Then again, I am a ‘fatty’ hovering below 20% BF right now so who am I to talk shit. Anyways, your cycle sounds good. I would recommend frontloading personally, I feel it gets the androgens acting in your body much sooner, like within 10 days versus a more standard 2-4 weeks.

Read up about acne and controlling it on some of the other threads here, they are very helpful.,

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o wow my post went thru… i’ve had a problem with the server timing out on me everytime i submitted my post…

I’m gonna upload those pics again…
here they are:

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as far as acne control i use a salicylic acid,benprox, and desonide cream regimen already to help keep it in check (started 2 weeks ago its gettin a little better…)

i’m not against frontloading by any means i just wanted to see how my body was going to react to test and eq before i pumped my self with about 800mg of Test and 650mg of eq in one day… monday will be my first pining i’m excited!

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wth the pics are all the same… here are the rest!

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there finally sorry bout that…

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You look like someone who could still gain quite a bit of muscle naturally. Alas, we all make our own decisions

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ya… i’m not gonna lie patients is something i lack… considering i used to be a fatass kid in highschool i’ve come a long way… i weighed 206 at my most with prolly 100% bodyfat hahaha

is it really that bad to start gear b4 reaching your genetic potential?what are the disadvantages? i want to get to the next level NOW NOW NOW lol

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Your cycle looks alright bro. Personally I would just run the Test Cyp and drop the EQ all together for a first cycle but in the end its up to you. Id run the Nolva at 50mg/day for the first 2 weeks also, not just the first week

Regarding when to start gear, its really only disadvantageous to start before reaching your natural genetic limit if you want to be a pro bodybuilder - for the vast majority of people its not very relevant

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more input anybody?

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I can’t reply with anything useful, but I’ve been reading this thread because I’ll be doing a similar cycle. Good luck.

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If you’re a former fatty like myself you may have issues with bloat while on cycle so I would recommend having an AI like Adex on hand to control it.

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Update*

So i did my first pinning as of monday. it was fine
i used a 23g syringe to draw and inject T300mg(1ml) EQ200mg(1ml) doesn’t hurt i duno why ppl are so scared…
it takes a second to build the courage to stick yourself if you’ve never done it before tho…The area i decided to inject is my right medial delt (i’ll switch sides ever injection).i stuck myself in a fast dart throwing type of motion. It was a little sore after i was done kind of like somebody punched me real hard in the shoulder. it felt like that for about 24 hours nothing i couldn’t handle. i prolly wouldn’t work out shoulders right after tho … i’d wait till after the work out to do the pinning if this situation arises

I made sure to wash my hands real good
cleaned the area with 90% rubbing alcohol and a cotton ball
Cleaned the top of the Test bottle and eq bottle with another cotton ball and alcohol
after i drew the 2ml (1ml of each mixed into the syringe) i flicked the shit out of the syringe to make sure all the air bubbles went to the top and pressed out the air till a little oil spurts out.
then proceeded with the pinning

so its been about 2 days i feel no different as expected no adverse reaction or anything so i feel confident and i’m looking forward to friday.

THanks Nickles good luck on your cycle too!
lemme know how it works out for ya

hey missing link thanx for your concern i am running AI it is called Letrozole its basically like adex but a little more powerful.i am very sensitive about looking bloated being that i used to be fat so this was one of my main concerns.

i’ll post any observation worth noting through the next couple of weeks

question:
i see a lot of “stop EQ 1 week before you stop test”
i don’t want to have 2ml of test lying around wasted… is there any suggestion as to how i can incorporate this extra 400mg (2ml) into my cycle (maybe up the doseage for a few weeks or even one shot?). or maybe some incite about wut could or will happen if i decide to just run them side by side and stop both on week 10 (i hear the side effects are sexual… not cool!)???

as always any advice is appreciated

stay strong!

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Answer:
Frontload.

It’s recommended to stop the EQ or any drug with a longer ester than the test you are using so you only have test in your system as you start PCT. It’s bit less important with EQ but still should be done or else you have to start PCT a bit later to wait for the levels of EQ to drop to levels suitable to start PCT.

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awesome avatar bonez! thanx i’m glad i got a response from you ur like a legend on these forums haha

so is it okay if i just use all 400mg and the usual 200mg of EQ on friday for my next pinning or is it already screwed up cuz i already got 200 mg floating around in my system?

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You can frontload it right now if you want. Then go back to the normal injection schedule.

Do a search for the frontload formula outline by Bill Roberts. Figure out what dose you should have used and tweak it to work with what you have.

Also keep in mind that you are going to lose a certain amount of oil each injection. I tend to only get about 8.7ml of oil out of a bottle with 10ml of oil.

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sounds good i’ll check that out right now!

good point about the oil loss. i’ll keep that in mind while i do these calculations

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I know what letro is, haha.

Keep me posted though as to how it works, it seems to me that the further into my cycle I get I have to slightly bump up my Adex use. Seeing as how much stronger Letro is I may use it next go round in place of Adex. So keep us updated and good luck!

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why aren’t my post working?

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omg i spent 20 min writing a long ass post and it doesn’t go through and this shitty one does… man FML

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FYL…