just wondering. How do test boosters work? and can you run them on a short cycle of test enth? planning to use isa-test for pct.
You haven’t posted a cycle proposal, or any details. If you are even considering not using a proper PCT (you need a SERM like Nolvadex, not an over-the-counter product), you need to read the stickies.
ive read the stickies.
Cycle,
Test enth.
going to taper 600, 500, 400, 300, 250, 100,
then go every other week dropping by 10mg
i have nolva on hand just in case,
but i read about how the old school dudes didnt have nolva and still didnt get gyno,
im just wondering how test boosters work if they work and if its possible to run those on a cycle as well i plan to use the nolva 40/20/20…post cycle.
ive read that testofen has been effective on libido and test levels so im considering adding that to the pct with the nolva
[quote]hurriedsurgeon wrote:
but i read about how the old school dudes didnt have nolva and still didnt get gyno[/quote]
There are a few problems with this statement. Not least that you think the “old school dudes” didn’t get gyno. Have you seen pictures of Franco Columbu from the 1981 Olympia, for example?
That’s an awful cycle.
Dont insult the people looking to help you by saying you’ve read the stickies.
Looks good! Keep us posted…
[quote]ritch1 wrote:
Looks good! Keep us posted…[/quote]
Go troll somewhere else please.
pretty much its my first real cycle im only doing the taper because the connect i did have cut me off when i questioned the legitimacy of his counterfiet thai phoenix brand, turns out it was real…test…not thai phoenix though. and unfortunately i had already done a shot (because the dude was a legit source…but my friend alluded to the fact which made me paranoid that i was shooting oil.) i mean from what i have been reading test enth is not something you cant really just stop because the ester keeps releasing up to four weeks from the initial dose. so without another connect im tapering because it seems like if i drop off from the initial 600 it’ll do absolutely nothihng and having just spent 80 bucks… Ive been lifting since sixteen, went on and off, til about 3 years ago where my friend who was a trainer got me back into it. i work at a gym so i train 6-7 days a week. diet is basically==== breakfast" oatmeal, 3 hard boiled eggs, whey protein with milk.
lunch^ 8oz chicken breast and one serving brown rice peannut sauce, 2 hrs later another protein shake
dinner* usually just chicken breats and broccoli. though i do mix it up. ill do 7 meals a day most days. im supping dhea, multi, fish oil, adrenosterone, vitamin e,b, argnine. my goal is not to blow up but get some more strength and lean mass. ive cycled the now banned epistane and pheraplex, both with pretty good results. i will however re-read the stickies… but if there are any other suggestions i would appreciate it. thanks and didnt mean to come off insulting.
You’re simply wasting 10ml of testosterone. You should stop now and wait until you have the supplies to do a proper cycle. This is not a flame. I’m just telling you what your best option is to do a productive cycle.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]ritch1 wrote:
Looks good! Keep us posted…[/quote]
Go troll somewhere else please. [/quote]
Relax dude.
[quote]ritch1 wrote:
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]ritch1 wrote:
Looks good! Keep us posted…[/quote]
Go troll somewhere else please. [/quote]
Relax dude.[/quote]
I’m quite relaxed. There are plenty of other places to pad your post count. That’s all I’m saying. DUDE
Ok then, hows this? 2 weeks after your last shot start your pct. Id go with aromasin and nolvadex. Do 12.5mg of aromasin for 6 weeks and the nolva at 20-40mg for 4 weeks. I dont think 40mg of nolva is necessary, but you could do 40mg to start with. Maybe a week or so. So youll run the aromasin 2 weeks longer than the nolvadex.
If you really want to use something like isatest, do so 4 weeks after your pct. I just find it`s a good idea to give your body some time off from using supps or ancillaries to support hormonal levels.
As far as the cycle, why not just do a 500mg a week cycle for 10 weeks? I have no idea how advanced you are, but Im guessing you havent done much gear. And sadly by the tone of your post, if you did, I doubt it was done properlyl
The method of tapering you chose, I wouldnt do it. If you want to know how to do a proper taper, read what prisoner has to say in the stickies. Using something like isatest on cycle wont give you any benefits. It`s like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
The natty stuff, at best, is used between cycles. But something like gasparis novadex or topical formestane, Id be willing to bet will give you better results than isatest.
i would have done the 10 wk 500mg, if my guy wouldn’t have backed out after i questioned his source (big mistake on my part or big overreaction on his) i was planning to grab another and run it for ten weeks… but now he says we are ‘done’ i thought it was reliable but since i questioned it…anyways.
i am planning for the 2 wk mark after my last shot to start pct since the half life of enanthate is around that if not slightly longer. if anyone could help me out with a source i would continue in the correct fashion but as for now i dont want to just shut myself down, im on the second shot at 500mg and i can feel the effects in my training, should i just take two weeks off then do another 500?
[quote]hurriedsurgeon wrote:
i would have done the 10 wk 500mg, if my guy wouldn’t have backed out after i questioned his source (big mistake on my part or big overreaction on his) i was planning to grab another and run it for ten weeks… but now he says we are ‘done’ i thought it was reliable but since i questioned it…anyways. i am planning for the 2 wk mark after my last shot to start pct since the half life of enanthate is around that if not slightly longer. if anyone could help me out with a source i would continue in the correct fashion but as for now i dont want to just shut myself down, im on the second shot at 500mg and i can feel the effects in my training, should i just take two weeks off then do another 500? [/quote]
You are lost about when to start PCT. 2 weeks isnt an arbitrary start date for PCT. It’s based on the calculation of the blood levels of T after a cycle. PCT is started when T levels have dropped to a level that is close to the level of natural T production. Somewhere around the 100mg/wk mark. It could be a little more, it’s not a huge deal and it’s probably better to start PCT a bit early than a bit late.
In your case you plan to have your final week at 100mg of T. You will have a bit more than 100mg T in your system due to the build up from the previous weeks. But it will not take 2 weeks for your levels to drop to the 100mg mark. You are also overestimating the half life of enanthate ester. It is closer to 7 days, not 14.
Your question about waiting 2 weeks to do another 500mg injection is absurd. But so is your cycle. So whatever. Do what you want.
But, AGAIN, the smart thing to do is to stop your “cycle” and wait until you have the supplies to do a proper cycle.