and the laugh riot continues…
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and the laugh riot continues…
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coming from what if it is a girl laughing 
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/obamacare-birth-control-mandate-struck-down-by-appeals-court
I get it , it is not about abortion , it is about life , eye roll
hear hear
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[quote]pat wrote:
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No you miss my point , that fetus is not a child [/quote]
No a sperm is a child. I name all of mine.[/quote]
Your photo album must take up entire rooms of your house then…[/quote]
When your sperm is as pretty as mine, you make room.[/quote]
we agree
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So Pitt you have seen Pat’s sperm? Is there something you are not telling us? lol
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I’d have to give him a facial and that just wouldn’t be pretty, but it would be an up close view…[/quote]
you so called conservatives are surprising me . Dmad is constantly inquiring on my sexual orientation and pat has homo erotic fantasies about me . I will tell you both so I no longer tease your dicks . I am straight , sorry guys
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Damn…
The only reason your surprised is because of your own bias. “Conservatives” are just people. And we might by some miracle have a sense of humor too.
I am a deadhead for crying out loud, having conservative beliefs are based on reflection, examination of logic and facts. I am against abortion, for instance, because the logic and reason leads me to no other conclusion that a human life, the species of homosapian is created as new, unique and complete human being at the point of conception. There is NO evidence contrary to this. There is no logic that can be derived that would entail the new creature is anything other than a complete, unique, automous homosapien, unique from the host and the donor.
Since that is the case and I believe that killing human beings is morally wrong, I have no choice but to be against abortion. It’s where the evidence leads and that’s what I am going to follow.[/quote]
I think the definition of conservative is a whole new threads . I will say I think I am more conservative than the majority on this site . Conserving one’s money or environment or assets is what (I) believe conservative is all about . Not whether you choose to do away with some cells that could become a person
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The cells are already a person. You have failed to prove differently. You’ve brought nothing, no evidence to the contrary.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Conservative Christian “pro-lifers” are equivalent to retarded Liberal PETA fanatics. Idealistic, unrealistic, intrusive, idealogically convinced, and will resort to just about anything to inflict their views onto others.
Humans not special snowflakes, they are animals. And, as in the animal kingdom, there is no guarantee nor “right” to life.[/quote]
Actually there is not a guaranteed right to life, but there is an inalienable right to life.
That is great, animal kingdom. The difference is that we don’t live in just the “animal kingdom” we live in a logical world (a place where our intellect and rational come into play), where we do not live off of instinct like dogs or pigs. We make free-will choices in our decisions.
[quote]But when a parent fails to protect it’s offsphing, it DIES. A fetus cannot defend it’s life. If it’s parents choose not to defend it’s life, then it will die. It is a very natural order of things. Survival of the fittest is not a new idea. The world is not some “sacred” place where “life is cherished”. The world is a very violent place and life is VERY expendible. History proves this…
Just because your little book (written by MAN, translated by MAN and used throughout history to control MAN) tells you to “go forth and multiply” and says that the earth is however many thousand years old which contradicts EVERY SINGLE SCIENTIFIC STUDY regarding the age of our planet, so it is OBVIOUSLY WRONG, this does not give you the right to FORCE other people into complying with your religious practice.[quote]
I don’t believe the Holy Bible says how old the earth is anywhere in there. Since the Holy Bible is Catholic, you’d have to listen to the Magisterium and they point to what science has proven to be true.
No, we are not above it, but we should be above it, no doubt.
Seems abortion violates the rights of the infants.
[quote]pat wrote:
The cells are already a person. You have failed to prove differently. You’ve brought nothing, no evidence to the contrary.[/quote]
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous
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[quote]pat wrote:
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[quote]pat wrote:
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[quote]pat wrote:
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[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
No you miss my point , that fetus is not a child [/quote]
No a sperm is a child. I name all of mine.[/quote]
Your photo album must take up entire rooms of your house then…[/quote]
When your sperm is as pretty as mine, you make room.[/quote]
we agree
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So Pitt you have seen Pat’s sperm? Is there something you are not telling us? lol
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I’d have to give him a facial and that just wouldn’t be pretty, but it would be an up close view…[/quote]
you so called conservatives are surprising me . Dmad is constantly inquiring on my sexual orientation and pat has homo erotic fantasies about me . I will tell you both so I no longer tease your dicks . I am straight , sorry guys
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Damn…
The only reason your surprised is because of your own bias. “Conservatives” are just people. And we might by some miracle have a sense of humor too.
I am a deadhead for crying out loud, having conservative beliefs are based on reflection, examination of logic and facts. I am against abortion, for instance, because the logic and reason leads me to no other conclusion that a human life, the species of homosapian is created as new, unique and complete human being at the point of conception. There is NO evidence contrary to this. There is no logic that can be derived that would entail the new creature is anything other than a complete, unique, automous homosapien, unique from the host and the donor.
Since that is the case and I believe that killing human beings is morally wrong, I have no choice but to be against abortion. It’s where the evidence leads and that’s what I am going to follow.[/quote]
I think the definition of conservative is a whole new threads . I will say I think I am more conservative than the majority on this site . Conserving one’s money or environment or assets is what (I) believe conservative is all about . Not whether you choose to do away with some cells that could become a person
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The cells are already a person. You have failed to prove differently. You’ve brought nothing, no evidence to the contrary.[/quote]
just curious , where is your outrage about the Republicans wanting to curtail the biggest obstacle to abortions (Birth control) ? And don’t tell me abstinence is the biggest obstacle
Upworthy and Talking points memo linked… I’ll be sure to not click on that partisan bullshit.
Anyway, life is hard for certain kids, so too bad this woman wasn’t aborted right pittttt? Her life has been very hard.
http://www.tatyanamcfadden.com/biography.html
smh…
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Actually there is not a guaranteed right to life, but there is an inalienable right to life.
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Prove it.
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[quote]pat wrote:
The cells are already a person. You have failed to prove differently. You’ve brought nothing, no evidence to the contrary.[/quote]
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof to your claims.
And if you managed to abort while said human life is still one cell, that would be a feat. Human life has to start somewhere, it’s starts with a single cell. It doesn’t start when it’s convenient for you, for it to start.
You have 24-36 hours between the sperm hitting the egg and rapid cell division.
Again, where’s your proof of any of your claims?
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof to your claims.
And if you managed to abort while said human life is still one cell, that would be a feat. Human life has to start somewhere, it’s starts with a single cell. It doesn’t start when it’s convenient for you, for it to start.
You have 24-36 hours between the sperm hitting the egg and rapid cell division.
Again, where’s your proof of any of your claims?[/quote]
I believe the proof lies with you . Life began with a live sperm and a live egg
I am still waiting for the outrage of one of our political parties wanting to make the biggest tool for preventing abortions less available . Where is a dose of common sense
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[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof to your claims.
And if you managed to abort while said human life is still one cell, that would be a feat. Human life has to start somewhere, it’s starts with a single cell. It doesn’t start when it’s convenient for you, for it to start.
You have 24-36 hours between the sperm hitting the egg and rapid cell division.
Again, where’s your proof of any of your claims?[/quote]
I believe the proof lies with you . Life began with a live sperm and a live egg
I am still waiting for the outrage of one of our political parties wanting to make the biggest tool for preventing abortions less available . Where is a dose of common sense
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I am still waiting on a single fact presented by you that supports your position. Haven’t gotten a single fact yet. Bring the facts.
Contraception has never been cheaper and more available than it is today. You’re argument does not hold water. The biggest tool for preventing abortions is basic morality, not a rubber.
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof to your claims.
And if you managed to abort while said human life is still one cell, that would be a feat. Human life has to start somewhere, it’s starts with a single cell. It doesn’t start when it’s convenient for you, for it to start.
You have 24-36 hours between the sperm hitting the egg and rapid cell division.
Again, where’s your proof of any of your claims?[/quote]
I believe the proof lies with you . Life began with a live sperm and a live egg
I am still waiting for the outrage of one of our political parties wanting to make the biggest tool for preventing abortions less available . Where is a dose of common sense
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I am still waiting on a single fact presented by you that supports your position. Haven’t gotten a single fact yet. Bring the facts.
Contraception has never been cheaper and more available than it is today. You’re argument does not hold water. The biggest tool for preventing abortions is basic morality, not a rubber.[/quote]
the fact is a sperm is alive and an egg is alive . What kind of proof do you want ?
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we disagree and counting one cell to be a person is preposterous [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof to your claims.
And if you managed to abort while said human life is still one cell, that would be a feat. Human life has to start somewhere, it’s starts with a single cell. It doesn’t start when it’s convenient for you, for it to start.
You have 24-36 hours between the sperm hitting the egg and rapid cell division.
Again, where’s your proof of any of your claims?[/quote]
I believe the proof lies with you . Life began with a live sperm and a live egg
I am still waiting for the outrage of one of our political parties wanting to make the biggest tool for preventing abortions less available . Where is a dose of common sense
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I am still waiting on a single fact presented by you that supports your position. Haven’t gotten a single fact yet. Bring the facts.
Contraception has never been cheaper and more available than it is today. You’re argument does not hold water. The biggest tool for preventing abortions is basic morality, not a rubber.[/quote]
It is either disingenuous or stupidity for a person that believes killing a few cells equates to murder would not do EVERYTHING to make sure that the sperm and the egg never merge . Birth control should be free from that persons perspective . We should be giving it to Kindergartners
Defunding Planned Parenthood is the opposite thing you should do . Maybe try and change their abortion policies , I could understand that . But to do away with the biggest outlet for birth control is either stupid or Naive or disingenuous or all . But it is surely ,not (Shirley) mind boggling
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we disagree [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof.[/quote]
I am still waiting for a dose.[/quote]
I am still waiting on a single fact.[/quote]
Meanwhile, eighteen thousand children starved to death today.
Cheers.
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[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
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we disagree [/quote]
I am waiting for any kind of proof.[/quote]
I am still waiting for a dose.[/quote]
I am still waiting on a single fact.[/quote]
Meanwhile, eighteen thousand children starved to death today.
Cheers.
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Maybe all Americans should give them 20% of there money? When I say All Americans I mean even the Welfare recipients that have plenty of money to buy their own food.
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hum, let’s see:
Republicans want government funding out of planned parenthood. Therefore government out of her uterus.
Republicans don’t support the “free” birth control mandated by government, therefore government out of the uterus…
Hmmm, seems like that silly little cartoon is a load of disingenuous bullshit. Didn’t expect anything better pitt…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
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hum, let’s see:
Republicans want government funding out of planned parenthood. Therefore government out of her uterus.
Republicans don’t support the “free” birth control mandated by government, therefore government out of the uterus…
Hmmm, seems like that silly little cartoon is a load of disingenuous bullshit. Didn’t expect anything better pitt… [/quote]
The Republicans support the right of an employer to force their religious views on their employees . If the employer does not believe in birth control , than no birth control .
That in it’s self is the best reason to take Insurance out of the hands of employers