[quote]tme wrote:
The best part is that he’ll be buried in Arlington National Cememtary, alongside many other of this nation’s great heros, with full military honors. >>>[/quote]
Just another symptom of the tragic decline of this nation when a lowlife like this is considered one her heroes.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
tme wrote:
The best part is that he’ll be buried in Arlington National Cememtary, alongside many other of this nation’s great heros, with full military honors. >>>
Just another symptom of the tragic decline of this nation when a lowlife like this is considered one her heroes. [/quote]
A good portion of our “heroes” have always been “lowlifes”…nothing new. But for the most part they have contributed great things to our country…regardless of their flaws/mistakes…personal or political. Ted Kennedy is no exception.
No matter how you or others feel about him,you can’t prove to me(or any competent person) that he has done nothing but horrible things in his career/life that truly warrant him as being treated as scum of the earth. I’m not praising him as being a saint…but I really shouldn’t have to tell you that…you know me better.
Ted Kennedy would have been relegated to being a shyster lawyer in a rational society. He would never have gotten where he was if we weren’t rotten to the core.
Let’s face the truth – we are rotten.
We accepted big nanny government, because we were afraid to compete solely on our brains and merits. We now compete in terms of brutality and influence peddling. We decided that safety lay in making each man bound to another through taxes and regulations. We then wail on when someone uses US, when what we REALLY wanted was to use them.
We are rotten cowards. Ted Kennedy was a symptom and a parasite on that, a maggot in human form.
[quote]denv23 wrote:
To all of you defending him, Ted never apologized directly, face to face, to Mary Jo’s parents. Not once. He also never gave them his account of what happened, even though they asked him several times.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253923/posts
Couple that with the fact that the coroner didn’t find any water in her lungs (she died from asphyxiation, not drowning), and PLEASE try to defend this guys honor.
Good riddance TK. I hope you spend eternity farming dung at Hell’s equator…in a wetsuit.[/quote]
He didn’t have to explain anything to the peasants. He is the Power Elite born inbred into a family dynasty full of power grabbing psychopaths. I doubt he was re elected all his life. Those guys are famous for pulling “tricks” to get into office, redrawing districts etc etc People of his elite status can’t be bothered with being voted in. They’ll play the game though but are immune to it.
It’s as the saying goes, voters don’t matter, vote counters do.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
tme wrote:
The best part is that he’ll be buried in Arlington National Cememtary, alongside many other of this nation’s great heros, with full military honors. >>>
Just another symptom of the tragic decline of this nation when a lowlife like this is considered one her heroes.
A good portion of our “heroes” have always been “lowlifes”…nothing new. But for the most part they have contributed great things to our country…regardless of their flaws/mistakes…personal or political. Ted Kennedy is no exception.
No matter how you or others feel about him,you can’t prove to me(or any competent person) that he has done nothing but horrible things in his career/life that truly warrant him as being treated as scum of the earth. I’m not praising him as being a saint…but I really shouldn’t have to tell you that…you know me better. [/quote]
Too Many people are emotionally attached to the Kennedy name. Kennedy’s are an Inbred elitist family serving the crown NOT the USA. JFK was the only Kennedy that seemed to resent the crown and was assassinated.
Ever wonder about all their deep health problems and mental instabilities? INBREEDING
[quote]Gregus wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
tme wrote:
The best part is that he’ll be buried in Arlington National Cememtary, alongside many other of this nation’s great heros, with full military honors. >>>
Just another symptom of the tragic decline of this nation when a lowlife like this is considered one her heroes.
A good portion of our “heroes” have always been “lowlifes”…nothing new. But for the most part they have contributed great things to our country…regardless of their flaws/mistakes…personal or political. Ted Kennedy is no exception.
No matter how you or others feel about him,you can’t prove to me(or any competent person) that he has done nothing but horrible things in his career/life that truly warrant him as being treated as scum of the earth. I’m not praising him as being a saint…but I really shouldn’t have to tell you that…you know me better.
JFK was the only Kennedy that seemed to resent the crown and was assassinated.
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I’ll take this^^ The rest you can throw in the trash. 
[quote]Gregus wrote:
denv23 wrote:
To all of you defending him, Ted never apologized directly, face to face, to Mary Jo’s parents. Not once. He also never gave them his account of what happened, even though they asked him several times.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253923/posts
Couple that with the fact that the coroner didn’t find any water in her lungs (she died from asphyxiation, not drowning), and PLEASE try to defend this guys honor.
Good riddance TK. I hope you spend eternity farming dung at Hell’s equator…in a wetsuit.
He didn’t have to explain anything to the peasants. He is the Power Elite born inbred into a family dynasty full of power grabbing psychopaths. I doubt he was re elected all his life. Those guys are famous for pulling “tricks” to get into office, redrawing districts etc etc People of his elite status can’t be bothered with being voted in. They’ll play the game though but are immune to it.
It’s as the saying goes, voters don’t matter, vote counters do. [/quote]
That was Stalin, btw.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
<<< No matter how you or others feel about him,you can’t prove to me(or any competent person) that he has done nothing but horrible things in his career/life that truly warrant him as being treated as scum of the earth. I’m not praising him as being a saint…but I really shouldn’t have to tell you that…you know me better. [/quote]
Come on man.
NO person, not one, has done NOTHING but horrible things. Even Manson probably petted a dog or something somewhere along the line.
Ted Kennedy spent his entire life in a limousine a yacht or a mansion while confiscating other people’s money to allegedly help the down trodden and underprivileged among us. I see the fruit of his labor every day in the hopeless welfare enslaved underclass that he was so instrumental in creating. He was a misogynistic user of women probably until alcohol rendered him impotent while pretending to champion their “cause”.
He was the consummate master of political bullying, manipulation and self empowerment bar none, as Push said, the quintessential personified object lesson in everything that is killing this nation. Oh yeah, he also drove a car off a bridge in a drunken stupor leaving his young female passenger to die while using his aristocratic family political influence to escape the consequences of an act that would have landed nearly any other American in jail and rendered any hope of a public career laughable.
He was a despicable and very publicly well known lowlife who were it not for a royal accident of birth would have faded from a jail cell to a small law firm somewhere. Celebrating his life and eulogizing his death speaks very poorly of where we are as a society.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Celebrating his life and eulogizing his death speaks very poorly of where we are as a society.[/quote]
I realize this comment strays slightly from Mr. kennedy, but it’s interesting. I’ve been studying sociology of late, and according to that branch of science society is not so much made of people but values. Anyone can essentially be a member of the American society as long as they share the same values, for instance many people in europe watch the same television programs shown in the u.s. that depict consumerism or promiscuous sex or what have you.
I’m curious Tiribulus, what do you think are the values that encompass this nation currently?
What do you think they should become under a better society?
By the end of this weekend, I have learned a great deal more about TK, and I don’t like it. I am embarrassed to say that I was not aware of the incident with the girl dying until watching the news this weekend. I have read most of this thread along with watching Liberal and Conservative news media to give a fair shake. At the end of it all, I have to say that he is a hypocrite. He spoke about government’s responsibility to provide for the people (at taxpayer expense), yet he neglected the very responsibility he fought for.
At first I did admire the passion he had for fighting his cause, but now I see that he is a hollow man. Because when push came to shove, he bailed. I am no TK, but I made my mistake and paid my price and took it like a man, for that I can look myself in the mirror and be proud. In almost every single instance, he voted or sided against what would be considered American.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Celebrating his life and eulogizing his death speaks very poorly of where we are as a society.
I realize this comment strays slightly from Mr. kennedy, but it’s interesting. I’ve been studying sociology of late, and according to that branch of science society is not so much made of people but values. Anyone can essentially be a member of the American society as long as they share the same values, for instance many people in europe watch the same television programs shown in the u.s. that depict consumerism or promiscuous sex or what have you.
I’m curious Tiribulus, what do you think are the values that encompass this nation currently?
What do you think they should become under a better society?[/quote]
That’s an honest question and one I have addressed in the past. It’s late and I still have work to do, but I’ll try to answer tomorrow.
"Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on â?¦ what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same â?¦ Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset â?¦ Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia.
In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge â?¦ the charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational, and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."
–Ted Kennedy on the 1965 immigration act.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
"Out of deference to the critics, I want to comment on â?¦ what the bill will not do. First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same â?¦ Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset â?¦ Contrary to the charges in some quarters, S.500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia.
In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think. Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates, or those with contagious disease or serious mental illness. As I noted a moment ago, no immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge â?¦ the charges I have mentioned are highly emotional, irrational, and with little foundation in fact. They are out of line with the obligations of responsible citizenship. They breed hate of our heritage."
–Ted Kennedy on the 1965 immigration act.[/quote]
But…but…but…his heart was in the right place! So what if it was a disaster? His intentions were noble. That’s what REALLY counts, right?
You and your insufferable logic!!
(Hey, I’m pretty good at imitating a lib!)
Immigration has been one of the biggest cluster fucks of the century, and because it has never been enforced it has come to bite us in the ass badly right now. You even see it in Europe, who should be the example of how to crack down on it. Their policy is simple, if you are illegal, GTFO period. So much to the point where citizen patrols can round them up, and doctors in hospitals can notify authorities if one comes in for treatment.
Italy has adopted this policy recently and it is working very well. Birthright Citizenship should no longer be allowed, we are one of the last countries left with this stupid policy. Kennedy got what he wanted one way or the other, with all the benefits illegals get here, who wouldn’t want to be here. Can an American go into any other country and demand what they get here? Shit no.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Immigration has been one of the biggest cluster fucks of the century, and because it has never been enforced it has come to bite us in the ass badly right now. You even see it in Europe, who should be the example of how to crack down on it. Their policy is simple, if you are illegal, GTFO period. So much to the point where citizen patrols can round them up, and doctors in hospitals can notify authorities if one comes in for treatment.
Italy has adopted this policy recently and it is working very well. Birthright Citizenship should no longer be allowed, we are one of the last countries left with this stupid policy. Kennedy got what he wanted one way or the other, with all the benefits illegals get here, who wouldn’t want to be here. Can an American go into any other country and demand what they get here? Shit no. [/quote]
Not only that, but all the data supports the fact that diversity is completely toxic to the social trust. Robert Putnam’s latest paper proves this. Kennedy inherently knew that when he told his lie about what Hart-Cellar would actually do.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
<<< Not only that, but all the data supports the fact that diversity is completely toxic to the social trust. >>>[/quote]
This depends on what is meant by “diversity”.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
John S. wrote:
pat wrote:
If I give a man a fish he can eat today, If I teach him to fish he can eat forever.
Perhaps he didn’t solve fundamental flaws in our country’s system, but at least he gave his time, effort, money and career to the poor.
Do you know the story of the man on the beach who saved all the starfish he could? After a storm thousands of starfish were washed up on the beach and a man was walking along throwing them back into the ocean. Someone asked “why do you do that? You’ll never save them all, and next storm season they will be back on the beach”. The man said “at least i know I’ve saved this starfish”.
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Yeah, Ted need not apply. I would go to defend somebody worth defending…Ted has a stack of dirt that couldn’t be carried in an oil tanker. Cheating in school, getting kicked out of entire towns, killing Mary Jo, sexual harassment, working with the Soviets to try to beat Reagan, etc. His assholness can be seen from space.
The only good thing about his death is that he can’t hurt anybody else anymore. And I am not even talking about his politics.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Immigration has been one of the biggest cluster fucks of the century, and because it has never been enforced it has come to bite us in the ass badly right now. You even see it in Europe, who should be the example of how to crack down on it. Their policy is simple, if you are illegal, GTFO period. So much to the point where citizen patrols can round them up, and doctors in hospitals can notify authorities if one comes in for treatment.
Italy has adopted this policy recently and it is working very well. Birthright Citizenship should no longer be allowed, we are one of the last countries left with this stupid policy. Kennedy got what he wanted one way or the other, with all the benefits illegals get here, who wouldn’t want to be here. Can an American go into any other country and demand what they get here? Shit no.
Not only that, but all the data supports the fact that diversity is completely toxic to the social trust. Robert Putnam’s latest paper proves this. Kennedy inherently knew that when he told his lie about what Hart-Cellar would actually do.
[/quote]
I liked the idea I was told when my family first came here, which was to become American. No matter where you came from in the world, if you come to America, you are meant to learn the language and it’s customs. To embrace that which is the American Dream and way of life. To believe in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. When I see, read, or hear stories of those who come here only to bash, abuse, and rape the system, it really pisses me off. If I had to pick between which citizenship to keep, it will be my American citizenship.
It is the American Way of Life that provided the opportunities for me, and I show my allegiance to the country that offers that to me. This is the best place on Earth.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Immigration has been one of the biggest cluster fucks of the century, and because it has never been enforced it has come to bite us in the ass badly right now. You even see it in Europe, who should be the example of how to crack down on it. Their policy is simple, if you are illegal, GTFO period. So much to the point where citizen patrols can round them up, and doctors in hospitals can notify authorities if one comes in for treatment.
Italy has adopted this policy recently and it is working very well. Birthright Citizenship should no longer be allowed, we are one of the last countries left with this stupid policy. Kennedy got what he wanted one way or the other, with all the benefits illegals get here, who wouldn’t want to be here. Can an American go into any other country and demand what they get here? Shit no.
Not only that, but all the data supports the fact that diversity is completely toxic to the social trust. Robert Putnam’s latest paper proves this. Kennedy inherently knew that when he told his lie about what Hart-Cellar would actually do.
I liked the idea I was told when my family first came here, which was to become American. No matter where you came from in the world, if you come to America, you are meant to learn the language and it’s customs. To embrace that which is the American Dream and way of life. To believe in Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. When I see, read, or hear stories of those who come here only to bash, abuse, and rape the system, it really pisses me off. If I had to pick between which citizenship to keep, it will be my American citizenship.
It is the American Way of Life that provided the opportunities for me, and I show my allegiance to the country that offers that to me. This is the best place on Earth.[/quote]
Outstanding.
I’d trade in a large portion of the natural born citizenry here for as many like this who wanted to come regardless of where they came from or what color they were.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Immigration has been one of the biggest cluster fucks of the century, and because it has never been enforced it has come to bite us in the ass badly right now. You even see it in Europe, who should be the example of how to crack down on it. Their policy is simple, if you are illegal, GTFO period. So much to the point where citizen patrols can round them up, and doctors in hospitals can notify authorities if one comes in for treatment.
Italy has adopted this policy recently and it is working very well. Birthright Citizenship should no longer be allowed, we are one of the last countries left with this stupid policy. Kennedy got what he wanted one way or the other, with all the benefits illegals get here, who wouldn’t want to be here. Can an American go into any other country and demand what they get here? Shit no.
Not only that, but all the data supports the fact that diversity is completely toxic to the social trust. Robert Putnam’s latest paper proves this. Kennedy inherently knew that when he told his lie about what Hart-Cellar would actually do.
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His goal WAS destruction.
Like most libs, they can’t create anything great, but they can destroy it. Its kind of like the bully who gets an ‘F’, punches out the smart kid and says, “I can’t get an ‘A’ but I can punch you in the face!”