[quote]pat wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
pat wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
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ZEB wrote:
Sorry, he was a piece of shit. I am not cheering his death, I am happy he’s finally out of congress and I am sorry the Mass. voters were so fucking stupid as to repeatedly vote for this low life cock sucker over and over again because he is a Kennedy. This unfortunately made it so death was the only way he was ever going to leave…They seriously need to explore term limits for congressmen.
You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree. Heres a direct quote from our president.
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Obviously the reason people voted for him was because he was a very productive Senator. Here’s an inspirational quote of his about the standards we should encourage for Americans.
“Every American should have the opportunity to receive a quality education, a job that respects their dignity and protects their safety, and health care that does not condemn those whose health is impaired to a lifetime of poverty and lost opportunity.”
He also, murdered a woman, sexually harassed scores of others, womanized on a grand scale, cheated on his wives, and always got away with everything just because of what family he came from. His politics are despicable no doubt, but my disdain for him is his assholeness, not his politics. He was a bad person IMO. Again, I ain’t out for death or to celebrate the fact that he is dead. But him being removed from the senate, be it by grim reaper or other methods was a good thing for this country.
Hell, he almost got socialized medicine done in the '70’s but he would not accept Nixon’s HMO styled option. He insisted on single payer…Thank God for small favors and I too, second the request of God’s mercy upon him. Thank God he’s out of the senate, though.
Well, he was not convicted or even tried for murder so that claim is wrong. He most likely made a mistake involving reckless driving and alcohol (but only he really knows), but scores of Americans do it every day and do not have to face the kind of remorse involved with death. From a psychological perspective, the only reason he would not alert authorities until the next day would be panic, alcohol, and fear of disgracing his family. It’s not like he thought no one would notice that his $100,000 mercedes went careening of a bridge with a girl inside. If you think it’s easy being a kennedy, you’re wrong.
As for the other personal issues you mentioned, why is that important? Martin Luther king cheated on his wife and still made the greatest civil rights contribution to this country since the abolition of slavery! Do you think he was “a piece of shit” to? In my experience it’s usually wrong to think there is one side to a person, he committed wrongs in his personal life but strived to do good for this country.
As for his politics: he elevated the lower classes, championed civil rights, and battled to give the poor better health care. You may disagree with how he did that, but to argue that his intentions for those actions were based in evil is ludicrous.
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Wow, I don’t have the time to address all that is wrong with what you said.
So one has to be convicted of murder to be a murderer? He swam to safety and let the womand drowned. He went to bed ( after he called his lawyer). He walked away and let her die, these are the facts and these are not in dispute. A mistake you say? Yeah, a rather LARGE one, one he NEVER took responsibility for. The other Americans who do it go to prison. I don’t give a crap about his reasons. He killed a woman, it was his fault and he got away with it because of who he was, period.
Why are the other issues important? If I fondle a waitress against her will, I get arrested, he gets away with because he’s a Kennedy. Cheating on his wife, not admirable, but just par for the course for a worthless piece of shit like himself.
He elevated the lower class, really? Have you looked around lately? They are just as low as ever. All he did is cause inflation. Even if you raise the bottom, it’s still the bottom. He gave them better health care? No he tried to implement single payer socialized medicine. It would raise the poor’s health care, just lower everybody else’s. He championed civil rights, whooptie-do so did a lot of other people, I hardly consider him revolutionary.
His intentions were self serving. You would have to be 6 times stupid to think he cared for anybody but himself. He let a woman die to save his career. If you find this kind of stuff admirable, you are in need of pity, but not deserving of any.[/quote]
If you knew jack about law then you would know it’s not a murder case. Again, he was not tried for murder. He was probably very drunk, was just able to save himself or unable to save mary, swam to shore went home and frieked out. Not an admirable act, but it is certainly not the defining moment of his character.
Right, so no one should help the poor. Is that what you are saying? Or that he shouldn’t have helped them? You act like civil rights are a joke and yet they represent the core of our nation stability. You’re thinking in black and white here.