[quote]pushharder wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
pat wrote:
Schlenkatank wrote:
pat wrote:
ZEB wrote:
You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree. Heres a direct quote from our president.
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Obviously the reason people voted for him was because he was a very productive Senator. Here’s an inspirational quote of his about the standards we should encourage for Americans.
“Every American should have the opportunity to receive a quality education, a job that respects their dignity and protects their safety, and health care that does not condemn those whose health is impaired to a lifetime of poverty and lost opportunity.”
He also, murdered a woman, sexually harassed scores of others, womanized on a grand scale, cheated on his wives, and always got away with everything just because of what family he came from. His politics are despicable no doubt, but my disdain for him is his assholeness, not his politics. He was a bad person IMO. Again, I ain’t out for death or to celebrate the fact that he is dead. But him being removed from the senate, be it by grim reaper or other methods was a good thing for this country.
Hell, he almost got socialized medicine done in the '70’s but he would not accept Nixon’s HMO styled option. He insisted on single payer…Thank God for small favors and I too, second the request of God’s mercy upon him. Thank God he’s out of the senate, though.
Well, he was not convicted or even tried for murder so that claim is wrong. He most likely made a mistake involving reckless driving and alcohol (but only he really knows), but scores of Americans do it every day and do not have to face the kind of remorse involved with death. From a psychological perspective, the only reason he would not alert authorities until the next day would be panic, alcohol, and fear of disgracing his family. It’s not like he thought no one would notice that his $100,000 mercedes went careening of a bridge with a girl inside. If you think it’s easy being a kennedy, you’re wrong.
As for the other personal issues you mentioned, why is that important? Martin Luther king cheated on his wife and still made the greatest civil rights contribution to this country since the abolition of slavery! Do you think he was “a piece of shit” to? In my experience it’s usually wrong to think there is one side to a person, he committed wrongs in his personal life but strived to do good for this country.
As for his politics: he elevated the lower classes, championed civil rights, and battled to give the poor better health care. You may disagree with how he did that, but to argue that his intentions for those actions were based in evil is ludicrous.
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Tanky, I just can’t leave this post alone. Several words come to mind:
Gullible
Sucker
Naive
Sycophant
Your pathetic excuse that it’s “understandable” because it’s hard to be a Kennedy just goes beyond the pale.
You are the kind of person that gives the Kennedys of this world a pass and therefore you empower them. You are like the brain dead Massachusetts voters who voted this paragon of D.C. entrenchment cancer into the Senate six times. His life wasn’t about the poor and downtrodden; it was about power and money. Your eulogy really sickens me. I think you are too smart a kid to make this grievous of an error.
IF Mary Jo were your sister would you be singing this tune?
If Mark Sanford had done this to his Argentinian girlfriend would you be singing this tune?[/quote]
Due to the extreme nature of some of the posts here, I countered them with posts that perhaps appeared sycophantic or one sided. As I mentioned, I know there was more than one side to Teds character and politics. He did things in his personal life that are not excusable, and some which were truly unfortunate like the death of Mary Jo.
Basically, what I mean is the man made mistakes. His mistakes were part of his character, but he also had good in him. I believe the good in him surfaced politically and how he cared for his family when his mother and father died and his brothers were assassinated. No one here knows what that kind of pain is like when you’re under the public eye. That is what’s tough about being a Kennedy.
The voters of mass decide whats best for mass. They liked him for whatever reason, you don’t have to which is fine.
Unlike his republican constituents Push, the bills he passed did not bolster his own wealth or secure his seat in the senate. When a republican senator votes against tobacco laws when he is also sponsored by a tobacco company that is what power is really about. When a republican senator opposes healthcare reform when he is also subsidized by private drug companies thats about power.
That’s my opinion anyway. Dead Kennedy was at least an interesting man to say the least.
