[quote]dmaddox wrote:
Poor choice of example by the teacher.
Why does it have to be Obama? The article states that the teacher said you would have to be at this angle to shoot the president. Could have been Carter, Bush I, II, or Clinton since they are all still alive. They are all the president.
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Killing a former president isn’t treason.
[quote]3hitter wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
No. I’m not surprised. I just wanted to see how the resident conservatives would respond. But of course they don’t respond to stuff like this so I am, again, not surprised. [/quote]
I’m a neo-con…or at least have been told that I am. So, what sort of response were you looking for?
Just start teachers at what an engineer makes and raises (similar) to follow. Then the K-Mart clerks will evolve out and you’ll get decent teachers. Low pay = the teachers you describe.
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http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_nypost_teacher_pay_myth.htm[/quote]
Snore…
Have you ever done it? You try it then we’ll talk.
I would say in both cases the punishment fit the crime. The first teacher advocated political action while the second just made a poorly thought out judgement call. It doesn’t mention if the second teacher received any sort of reprimand by the school or district, but I would say he should have.
I’ve talked politics with my kids before when I taught social studies, and I always made sure never to give my own political opinions. It’s best to just play devil’s advocate and allow the kids to make their own judgement calls.
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
So how did you do on the test? I guess you recieved that water pistle in your avatar as a parting gift? I am just kidding.
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
There are many important life lessons in that movie.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
There are many important life lessons in that movie.[/quote]
And those are?
Run away, Run away.
Bring out your Dead. Bong
It is mearly a flesh wound.
What is your favorite color? Red no Blue AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Is that an african swollow or a european swollow.
Any others I might have missed?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
There are many important life lessons in that movie.[/quote]
And those are?
Run away, Run away.
Bring out your Dead. Bong
It is mearly a flesh wound.
What is your favorite color? Red no Blue AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Is that an african swollow or a european swollow.
Any others I might have missed?[/quote]
I learned how to use a hand grenade.
How to determine if someone is a witch.
That African swallows on non-migratory
The perfect system of government is ruler selection by having a woman in a lake throw a sword at you.
the lessons really go on and on.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
So how did you do on the test? I guess you recieved that water pistle in your avatar as a parting gift? I am just kidding.[/quote]
I passed the one good thing about that class was it introduced me to the awesomeness of Monty Python, Somehow i failed my term paper on Army of Darkness though, but i think thats just because the bitch teacher cant comprehend the badassity of bruce campbell.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]3hitter wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
No. I’m not surprised. I just wanted to see how the resident conservatives would respond. But of course they don’t respond to stuff like this so I am, again, not surprised. [/quote]
I’m a neo-con…or at least have been told that I am. So, what sort of response were you looking for?
Just start teachers at what an engineer makes and raises (similar) to follow. Then the K-Mart clerks will evolve out and you’ll get decent teachers. Low pay = the teachers you describe.
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http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_nypost_teacher_pay_myth.htm[/quote]
Snore…
Have you ever done it? You try it then we’ll talk.
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If it makes you feel better, I think you’re underpaid, but deservedly so. I can’t see you being objective in a classroom.
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
“the badassity of bruce campbell.”
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I lol’d.
But seriously though, Math 9 was the last time I saw a straight line / right-angle triangle question
[quote]3hitter wrote:
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/_nypost_teacher_pay_myth.htm[/quote]
Comparing at an hourly basis is deceptive.
An intelligent fellow isn’t going to be happy with $50k/yr. The fact that he gets 3 months off per year is almost irrelevant.
The second problem is using averages. Top Computer Scientists with 5-8 years exp can make $120/hr contracting. And they have work 48 weeks per year. Top teachers get what? $34/hr instead of $30/hr? So for people who want to excel and be experts…well they can earn far more even on an hourly basis in other fields. For the average person who wants to chill the wage of a teacher isn’t so bad. Of course people who just want to chill don’t make the best teachers.
Then you throw in the lack of respect for the teaching profession both from the students and from the community. The average mech engineer earns a little less per hour but they have to deal with less crap and get more respect. So in choosing between the two fields the intelligent person is more likely to lean towards being an engineer. Especially when you compare the salary ceilings of the two professions.
In short the crap teachers are paid well and the good teachers are paid very poorly.
When I taught in North Carolina, I had to give the kids a final exam even though they knew our grades had been due like 2 days earlier (meaning the exams counted for nothing). I gave them a word search final exam with like 100 words on it. To my surprise pretty much all of them at least tried to finish it. Then we watched a movie.
[quote]BBriere wrote:
When I taught in North Carolina, I had to give the kids a final exam even though they knew our grades had been due like 2 days earlier (meaning the exams counted for nothing). I gave them a word search final exam with like 100 words on it. To my surprise pretty much all of them at least tried to finish it. Then we watched a movie.[/quote]
Did you all watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
you shall bring us a . . . Shrubbery!
let’s not bicker over who killed who . . .
I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries
Oh, let me have just a little bit of peril?
It’s just a flesh wound. I’v had worse . . .
What makes you think she was a witch? She turned me into a newt! A newt? . . . . I got better
You don’t frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called “Arthur King,” you and all your silly English K-nig-hts.
King Arthur: I am your king.
Woman: Well I didn’t vote for you.
King Arthur: You don’t vote for kings.
Woman: Well how’d you become king then?
[Angelic music plays… ]
King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.
Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Dennis: Oh, but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Dennis: Oh but if I went ‘round sayin’ I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away.
OK I gotta stop - loved the movie obviously . . .
We are now the Knights who say… â??Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG. Zoom-Boing. Z’nourrwringmm.
For 35K per year (versus 55K for an engineer starting), you’re bound to get more people who would do stuff like in the original post. Pay more, get more.
A teacher of 25 years should be making at least $100,000 per year. You’d have far fewer dolts and morons for that kind of money.
Now watch…someone will talk about “I knew so-and-so years ago who sucked…and you want to pay them $100,000!”, not realizing that the person would not have been there, if teacher pay was decent.
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]Jfbalabama wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I’m more concerned that students are still learning about angles and parallel lines in their senior year.[/quote]
Its Alabama our school system sucks, hell in my senior year my final exam in english was on Monty Python and the holy grail[/quote]
So how did you do on the test? I guess you recieved that water pistle in your avatar as a parting gift? I am just kidding.[/quote]
I passed the one good thing about that class was it introduced me to the awesomeness of Monty Python, Somehow i failed my term paper on Army of Darkness though, but i think thats just because the bitch teacher cant comprehend the badassity of bruce campbell.
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Looks like you have a fine school system. Watch movies for an English class. Yep. 'Merica today.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
For 35K per year (versus 55K for an engineer starting), you’re bound to get more people who would do stuff like in the original post. Pay more, get more.
A teacher of 25 years should be making at least $100,000 per year. You’d have far fewer dolts and morons for that kind of money.
Now watch…someone will talk about “I knew so-and-so years ago who sucked…and you want to pay them $100,000!”, not realizing that the person would not have been there, if teacher pay was decent.[/quote]
You are so full of shit.
100k??? To teach? To work for ten fucking months? No way.
Then you have exactly what’s going on in NJ, where these goddamn teachers are pulling massive salaris on the taxpayer’s dime and fucking property taxes.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
For 35K per year (versus 55K for an engineer starting), you’re bound to get more people who would do stuff like in the original post. Pay more, get more.
A teacher of 25 years should be making at least $100,000 per year. You’d have far fewer dolts and morons for that kind of money.
Now watch…someone will talk about “I knew so-and-so years ago who sucked…and you want to pay them $100,000!”, not realizing that the person would not have been there, if teacher pay was decent.[/quote]
You are so full of shit.
100k??? To teach? To work for ten fucking months? No way.
Then you have exactly what’s going on in NJ, where these goddamn teachers are pulling massive salaris on the taxpayer’s dime and fucking property taxes. [/quote]
Then you have exactly what’s going on in AZ, CA, NM, TX where these illegals are pulling massive welfare benefits on the taxpayer’s dime and f’n property taxes.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
For 35K per year (versus 55K for an engineer starting), you’re bound to get more people who would do stuff like in the original post. Pay more, get more.
A teacher of 25 years should be making at least $100,000 per year. You’d have far fewer dolts and morons for that kind of money.
Now watch…someone will talk about “I knew so-and-so years ago who sucked…and you want to pay them $100,000!”, not realizing that the person would not have been there, if teacher pay was decent.[/quote]
Why should someone be paid that?