Teacher Punches Student

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:

when you’re no longer a fat-ass power lifter,i’ll give a shit about what you have to say[/quote]

lol when you mature a little and stop worrying about whether or not your 15 year old peers think you have “hawt abz”, you may understand that not everyone is content to go through life small and weak…if the extent of your fitness goals is to look like the pale kids from Twlight and/or Justin Bieber, then your opinion on my bodyfat levels from a picture taken 14 months ago really isn’t relevant…[/quote]

The thing is bud,I used to look like you(well,not poerlifter fat, but still fat) i cut my body fat from 30 to 13 in 8 months and now weigh in at around 200 lbs.And if you come watch me train for rugby you’d realize you don’t have to be fat to be strong.BTW nice knowlegde of teen txt grammer-can you say pedophile anyone ?

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[quote] TSpoon wrote:
The thing is bud,I used to look like you(well,not poerlifter fat, but still fat) i cut my body fat from 30 to 13 in 8 months and now weigh in at around 200 lbs.And if you come watch me train for rugby you’d realize you don’t have to be fat to be strong.BTW nice knowlegde of teen txt grammer-can you say pedophile anyone ?[/quote]

This coming from the guy who in his limited time on this site has posted the following gems:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:
I’m looking into getting my hands on some of Biotest’s Carbolin 19 sometime soon.I’ve got a few questions for anyone who uses it/is firmiliar with the supplement.

1:is it a steroid?(obvi. not by pro standards but is it considered one?)
…

Gotta stay natural and all[/quote]

Going crazy on synergy for suggesting he not be so lazy (bipolar much)

and this from his training log:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:

5’9
170 lbs
15-16% BF
(i know that may be small to most people on here but in august i was 210 with 30% BF so since i’ve cut quite a bit i’ll probably try and bulk up during the summer)

[/quote]

You say you have been training for a year now in one of your other posts, but you are still doing deadlifts with 185 and DB Bench with the 40’s? You are a joke dude…and you’ve gone from being a weak fat ass to a weak skinny-fatass…and you’ve managed to gain 30 pounds in the 2 months since you started your training log, while dropping bodyfat from 15-16% down to 12???congratulations…no wonder you are so obsessed with another dude’s bodyfat levels and diet–i see this phenomenon a lot in people that used to be fat as shit and aren’t anymore (but are still weak as fuck)…

Get out of this thread…

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[quote]Dasher wrote:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:

See that’s just it.Americans are content staying in their own country thinking they rule the world.I’m at least half your age and i’ve been to 3 continents and 9 countries.I have a much broader veiw of the world because my country’s education system isn’t so self centred as to only teach cirriculum concerning my own country’s interests.I’ve studied american history and been to your country 4 times.It’s depressing to see the poverty that exists in plain sight while you confidently vote for politicians that spend trillions fighting in wars that don’t even concern them.You’d be surprised at how much a young person like myself a can know and experience.well,not in america anyways.[/quote]

  1. That is a bitchin’ castle!
  2. I would like you to experience a little grammar-adjustment before you start throwing bows at a country’s education system.[/quote]

1.ahaha thanks i built it myself
2.I think you meant you write “blows”…I doubt throwing frilly ribbons would much hurt anyone

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[quote]TSpoon wrote:

[quote]Dasher wrote:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:

See that’s just it.Americans are content staying in their own country thinking they rule the world.I’m at least half your age and i’ve been to 3 continents and 9 countries.I have a much broader veiw of the world because my country’s education system isn’t so self centred as to only teach cirriculum concerning my own country’s interests.I’ve studied american history and been to your country 4 times.It’s depressing to see the poverty that exists in plain sight while you confidently vote for politicians that spend trillions fighting in wars that don’t even concern them.You’d be surprised at how much a young person like myself a can know and experience.well,not in america anyways.[/quote]

  1. That is a bitchin’ castle!
  2. I would like you to experience a little grammar-adjustment before you start throwing bows at a country’s education system.[/quote]

1.ahaha thanks i built it myself
2.I think you meant you write “blows”…I doubt throwing frilly ribbons would much hurt anyone[/quote]

No he meant 'bows as in “elbows”…looks like diesel school may be in your future there bubba

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Negative. I meant 'bows. It must be a dumb American expression.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

I think that could have been an option as well…I can’t tell for sure, but it looks like the door opens into the hallway (if it opened into the classroom, this would not really be an option since it would bring her closer to the attacker as she opened it)…but the act of opening a door does take some time, regardless of the direction it is opening, and in situations like that you are correct to employ the safest most efficient (time) solution…which I think was confronting the attacker and not turning your back on him…

Besides, if your two natural instincts are “flight or fight”…why is one more appropriate than the other, all other things being equal?

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1.)To those suggesting the teacher should have pushed the kid rather than hit him; elementary physics dictate that, given her lower body mass, she would have been more likely to move backward than him.

2.)Why the fuck do people seem to think that things like their lifts, body fat %, and who looks better with their shirt off are relevant to a discussion like this?

3.)As a Canadian I take mild offense to people who use being Canadian as an excuse to be sanctimonious, self righteous wankers. Take that attitude if you like but please, leave my country out of it.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote] TSpoon wrote:
The thing is bud,I used to look like you(well,not poerlifter fat, but still fat) i cut my body fat from 30 to 13 in 8 months and now weigh in at around 200 lbs.And if you come watch me train for rugby you’d realize you don’t have to be fat to be strong.BTW nice knowlegde of teen txt grammer-can you say pedophile anyone ?[/quote]

This coming from the guy who in his limited time on this site has posted the following gems:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:
I’m looking into getting my hands on some of Biotest’s Carbolin 19 sometime soon.I’ve got a few questions for anyone who uses it/is firmiliar with the supplement.

1:is it a steroid?(obvi. not by pro standards but is it considered one?)
…

Gotta stay natural and all[/quote]

Going crazy on synergy for suggesting he not be so lazy (bipolar much)

and this from his training log:

[quote]TSpoon wrote:

5’9
170 lbs
15-16% BF
(i know that may be small to most people on here but in august i was 210 with 30% BF so since i’ve cut quite a bit i’ll probably try and bulk up during the summer)

[/quote]

You say you have been training for a year now in one of your other posts, but you are still doing deadlifts with 185 and DB Bench with the 40’s? You are a joke dude…and you’ve gone from being a weak fat ass to a weak skinny-fatass…and you’ve managed to gain 30 pounds in the 2 months since you started your training log, while dropping bodyfat from 15-16% down to 12???congratulations…no wonder you are so obsessed with another dude’s bodyfat levels and diet–i see this phenomenon a lot in people that used to be fat as shit and aren’t anymore (but are still weak as fuck)…

Get out of this thread…

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Bravo,you clearly have the mental capacities of a super-genius to gain acess to my previous posts.
In regards to Carbolin 19 19,the article on it compared its affects to anvanar and other steroids and I just wanted to clarify whether or not it was in fact a steroid.Nice job editing my post BTW
I see you’re another idiot with his nose so far up synergy’s ass he can only see him as being completely right in every situation.

how many times can you DL that weight in your pic before you have to sit down and take a break-once maybe twice before your fat-ass friends catch you and pass you a BigMac to chew on before your next lift? Theres a lot more to fitness than lifting something once(which is what you’re good at) at being able to maintain intense physical efforts over 80 minutes(the length of the rugy games i play in) how fast can you run 100 metres(have you ever in your life) and how many pull-ups can you do before your fat-ass falls on the floor gasping for air like,well like a power-lifter.GTFO bud

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[quote]TSpoon wrote:

Bravo,you clearly have the mental capacities of a super-genius to gain acess to my previous posts.
In regards to Carbolin 19 19,the article on it compared its affects to anvanar and other steroids and I just wanted to clarify whether or not it was in fact a steroid.Nice job editing my post BTW
I see you’re another idiot with his nose so far up synergy’s ass he can only see him as being completely right in every situation.

how many times can you DL that weight in your pic before you have to sit down and take a break-once maybe twice before your fat-ass friends catch you and pass you a BigMac to chew on before your next lift? Theres a lot more to fitness than lifting something once(which is what you’re good at) at being able to maintain intense physical efforts over 80 minutes(the length of the rugy games i play in) how fast can you run 100 metres(have you ever in your life) and how many pull-ups can you do before your fat-ass falls on the floor gasping for air like,well like a power-lifter.GTFO bud[/quote]

You didn’t mention at all how you’ve managed to go from 170 pounds at 15-16% bodyfat on 27 March 2011 2011 to 200 pounds at 13% bodyfat on today (5 June 2011)…care to share your training secrets that cause someone to gain 31 pounds of LBM while getting leaner in a 10 week period???

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[quote]TSpoon wrote:
Then why do most of your citizens insist on still carrying weapons today?Because Guns are for pussies,I hope you know that.
[/quote]

I made no indication as to my personal beliefs on gun control. You made a silly, uninformed comment and I responded in kind.

[quote]
Oh and if see had been teaching in that classroom for the whole semester she’d know where the door was.If she had simply pushed him then the same kid who grabbed him after he was punched probably would’ve stepped in to restrain him(I would hope so,anyways).[/quote]

Like I said, impeccable spacial awareness given the obviously stressful situation. You also don’t address how she could open the door, as it would require her to turn her back on a would-be attacker. Not a likely option any way you look at it.

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[quote]batman730 wrote:
1.)To those suggesting the teacher should have pushed the kid rather than hit him; elementary physics dictate that, given her lower body mass, she would have been more likely to move backward than him.

2.)Why the fuck do people seem to think that things like their lifts, body fat %, and who looks better with their shirt off are relevant to a discussion like this?

3.)As a Canadian I take mild offense to people who use being Canadian as an excuse to be sanctimonious, self righteous wankers. Take that attitude if you like but please, leave my country out of it.

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[/quote]

Even our (former) PM supports self-defense :smiley:

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

I think that could have been an option as well…I can’t tell for sure, but it looks like the door opens into the hallway (if it opened into the classroom, this would not really be an option since it would bring her closer to the attacker as she opened it)…but the act of opening a door does take some time, regardless of the direction it is opening, and in situations like that you are correct to employ the safest most efficient (time) solution…which I think was confronting the attacker and not turning your back on him…

Besides, if your two natural instincts are “flight or fight”…why is one more appropriate than the other, all other things being equal?[/quote]

I completely see what you [and others] are saying, but I think in that situation, under those circumstances you have to be more in control of yourself. This isn’t two kids jaw jackin’ at eachother, it’s a 64 year old teacher and an apparently “off” 17 year old.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?[/quote]

Brother, you have no idea the wacky shit I’ve been involved in, especially in my younger days. But, I AM NOT A 64 YEAR OLD TEACHER BEING YELLED AT BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 17 YEAR OLD.

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[quote]angus_beef wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
If I was in that room, and seen such disrespect of a woman. Even without physical contact from him I would have bull rushed him and put him up against the wall for merely disrespect of a woman and disrespect for his elders.

There is no room for such disrespect, I don’t care that she’s a teacher or in a position of authority, the fact that she is a woman is reason enough.[/quote]

HAHA… laughable … In domestic violence cases police officers tend to arrest both individuals in same sex partnerships (female) 50 percent of the time. However, if the couple is a man and a woman, the woman gets arrested less the 1 percent of the time… It’s because the majority of people think the way you do.

What if the teacher was male? … Would the same principal apply?

How about if a male teacher punched another student in the face? Perhaps a female student.

What if this guy was your son? …Do you expect that when you send your kids to school that they’re being punched in the face by teachers?

We all deserve respect but no one is obligated to respect anyone, so why would anyone use force to implement something which isn’t unlawful?

If i’m walking down the street and someone walks up to me and calls me a bitch, do i then have the right to punch them in the face? The law allows us to use equal force to protect ourselves. Therefor if someone punches me in the face i am not protected under the law if i shot that individual. I cannot physically abuse someone who verbally abuses me.

Anyways i think because it’s a younger guy and an older woman most people have bias opinions on the incident. Not saying what the guy did was right but the severity of the action should not be gender dependent. Several students act like idiots… are we now giving teachers the ok to implement vigilante justice ? … Just food for thought.

By the way, in a civil lawsuit there is absolutely no question that the teacher and the school is fucked.
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That is why the law considers the circumstances of each case… If it was a large male teacher who would not have been physicaly threatened then it is a completely different situation. How is this “giving teachers the ok to implement vigilante justice”???

You dumb bro.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?[/quote]

Brother, you have no idea the wacky shit I’ve been involved in, especially in my younger days. But, I AM NOT A 64 YEAR OLD TEACHER BEING YELLED AT BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 17 YEAR OLD.[/quote]

Including the fact that he’s mentally challenged/ill/unstable/whatever is absolutely absurd thinking that that’s a reason she shouldn’t have hit him.

All things being equal, a person who’s mentally unstable is far more dangerous than someone who’s level headed.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?[/quote]

Brother, you have no idea the wacky shit I’ve been involved in, especially in my younger days. But, I AM NOT A 64 YEAR OLD TEACHER BEING YELLED AT BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 17 YEAR OLD.[/quote]

Then why do you feel qualified to judge what is a threatening situation to her?

I am a woman of the same height, lesser weight (but a few years younger) and I know how I would react from real life experience and this is the reaction of a threatened woman.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?[/quote]

Brother, you have no idea the wacky shit I’ve been involved in, especially in my younger days. But, I AM NOT A 64 YEAR OLD TEACHER BEING YELLED AT BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 17 YEAR OLD.[/quote]

Including the fact that he’s mentally challenged/ill/unstable/whatever is absolutely absurd thinking that that’s a reason she shouldn’t have hit him.

All things being equal, a person who’s mentally unstable is far more dangerous than someone who’s level headed.[/quote]

You’re right, I shouldn’t have included that. But, I still think she should’ve handled herself better and not allowed it to get to that point. We only saw, what, 20 seconds? The student with the camera phone started recording ‘cause she saw something was potentially gonna go down. That takes time to develop. And, in that time she coulda’ walked out the door and gotten help instead of punching her student in the face.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Not at all. just providing personal experience. My “mid 90’s post office” line was said in jest, but those posts kinda proved one of my points. The world is dangerous, and it has nothing to do with chronological progression. But, there needs to be preventative measures taken and/or established before things escelate to that point. Like I said earlier, there’s no way what happened in that classroom was their first altercation. As soon as the kid has been in trouble more than once in that class, someone needs to keep an eye on the situation. And, if the kid has mental problems as the article suggests, he doesn’t need to be in that class in the first place.[/quote]

You are speculating that there is a history there…there may or may not be, and its really irrelevant as it is not really on the topic…the teacher can’t remove the student from the class–that would have to be done at a higher pay grade than hers…so what is she supposed to do? Endure verbal and physical abuse and intimidation because someone else didn’t do their job?

I just don’t see how anyone can think the teacher did anything except the right thing in this situation…She handled the situation extremely well IMO…in hindsight, maybe pushing the kid back instead of decking him may have been a better option, but when a much weaker person is put in an intimidating and potentially dangerous situation such as this, I think that is very forgiveable…I doubt she had time and clear thinking to weigh all her options and balance out the pros and cons–she reacted instinctively because she was placed in a situation where that is natural…[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation, but things like that generally don’t just happen unless there’s some sort of history. And, as I said earlier she was standing in a doorway. Why not open the door, go grab a security guard or officer [ I know some schools have actual police officers on campus] and have them remove the kid? Busting him in the face wasn’t the smartest move. Agreed that she felt threatened and her instinct kicked in, so she obviously wasn’t thinking, but that’s my point. She needed to be thinking. Hauling off and busting on him was a really bad idea.[/quote]

Have you ever had an adrenaline rush from fear for your physical safety?[/quote]

Brother, you have no idea the wacky shit I’ve been involved in, especially in my younger days. But, I AM NOT A 64 YEAR OLD TEACHER BEING YELLED AT BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED 17 YEAR OLD.[/quote]

Then why do you feel qualified to judge what is a threatening situation to her?

I am a woman of the same height, lesser weight (but a few years younger) and I know how I would react from real life experience and this is the reaction of a threatened woman.[/quote]

When have I said that that wasn’t threatening? I’m sure she was scared shitless, but as my previous post addresses, she presumably had more logical options before it got to the point of busting him in the face.