Teacher Fights Back

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Not taking out the trash so it can stink up the classroom will most def interfere with the ENTIRE classrooms learning.

Basket D: the kid pushes the teacher, teacher beats kids ass.

As far as setting an example by “the teacher taking out the trash himself,” you are setting an example, its called “hey class, look at what Johnny just did, he walked all over me so I guess the rest of you can too.”

I do however respect the fact that you are a teacher, which is a profession that I feel never gets the credit it deserves.

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If this thread is anything, it is PRO-teacher, it seems most feel that the teacher shouldnt lose his job and he has the right to defend himself.

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[quote]dk44 wrote:
If this thread is anything, it is PRO-teacher, it seems most feel that the teacher shouldnt lose his job and he has the right to defend himself.[/quote]

You still don’t get it. That teacher wouldn’t have had to defend himself (more like overpowering) if he had respected that student’s wish to not take out the trash in the first place. You win 100% of all battles that you don’t fight. There is a difference between deference and cowardence.

“Basket D” was cute, but it shows what you really think about teenagers. They don’t get the credit that they deserve, especially not here, a thread full of adult posters who think that the only way to teach “punk teenagers” is to “fight back” and “defend yourself”.

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“Respect the students wish,” what the fuck is that.

Teacher: Ok class lets open up our books to page 223
Student: No I dont want to learn today.
Teacher: Ok, I respect your wish.
What kind of enviorment is that? And if you dont think other kids will notice that kinda behavior your nuts.

It has nothing to do with teenagers, it has everything to do with doing what your told by someone above you. School isnt a “hippy nursery” where you kill them with kindness. I dont agree with beating the shit out of students for being late to class, but if a kid puts his hands on a teacher in an agressive manner I say defend yourself. The sad part is that the teacher will get fired for doing what the students dad should have done along time ago.

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[quote]dk44 wrote:
“Respect the students wish,” what the fuck is that.

Teacher: Ok class lets open up our books to page 223
Student: No I dont want to learn today.
Teacher: Ok, I respect your wish.
What kind of enviorment is that? And if you dont think other kids will notice that kinda behavior your nuts.

It has nothing to do with teenagers, it has everything to do with doing what your told by someone above you. School isnt a “hippy nursery” where you kill them with kindness. I dont agree with beating the shit out of students for being late to class, but if a kid puts his hands on a teacher in an agressive manner I say defend yourself. The sad part is that the teacher will get fired for doing what the students dad should have done along time ago.

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Exactly, plus for all we know the teacher asked him politely to take out the trash and the kid said “Fuck you” or something to that nature. If you’re the kind of teacher that just ignores that then you’re doing more harm than good.

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I’m 16 the kid deserved his ass beating. As far as I’m concerned putting your hands on somone else is a free invitation to get hit. Even if the teacher was screaming at the kid, making the confrontation physical brings it to an entirely new level.

On a side note, that basket c bullshit was the most pathetic attempt at trying to justify being some ones bitch.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The school in Cali is for teens with behavioral problems. The teacher is probably an old hardcore dude who takes no shit. When the kid refused to take out the trash, the teacher HAD to take charge or lose the class.

In Korea, the teachers walk around with riding crops and really lay it into the kids. Koreans realize that kids are not yet rational beings and need to be beaten as necessary. Otherwise the schools turn into a joke…kind of like here.

We need to learn from the Koreans.[/quote]

I live in a dorm with a few hundred Koreans, and over 2000 students from Asia, and a few Africans. The Koreans are well known for beating their girl friends. Korean girls who date non-Korean guys or study abroad are often singled out.

To quote one Korean girl “I don’t want to walk through the lobby past those boys. They made me keep drinking until I was sick, then I passed out. I don’t remember what they did to me”. And my friend who was beaten by her boyfriend for 6 months. Then when she left him he beat her again for embarrassing him. I could keep going, but I think you get the idea.

It’s not just two cases either. It is so frequent, that among the 20 or so countries represented here in the international dorm, the Koreans stand out greatly for their abuse. It happens among other cultures, sure, especially Africans.

Maybe it’s because there are more Koreans than Africans that they stand out more. But compared to other Asian countries, the Koreans have a well-established reputation.

Yes, we need to learn about using violence to settle difference and gain respect, especially from a young age.

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LOL. I give up. You guys win. I’m going to go punch every single student that defy me from now on. 5 years of job satisfaction and counting isn’t worth it if those punk kids walk all over me like I’m some bitch. Thanks, guys. Now I know where to go for advice on classroom discipline. :wink:

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[quote]dk44 wrote:
“Respect the students wish,” what the fuck is that.

Teacher: Ok class lets open up our books to page 223
Student: No I dont want to learn today.
Teacher: Ok, I respect your wish.
What kind of enviorment is that? And if you dont think other kids will notice that kinda behavior your nuts.

It has nothing to do with teenagers, it has everything to do with doing what your told by someone above you. School isnt a “hippy nursery” where you kill them with kindness. I dont agree with beating the shit out of students for being late to class, but if a kid puts his hands on a teacher in an agressive manner I say defend yourself. The sad part is that the teacher will get fired for doing what the students dad should have done along time ago.

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Absolutely! Parents need to back up the teacher. And none of this would have happened unless the kid knew there was some chance of him ‘winning’ — lawsuits, firing, etc.

His daddy should have taken control of this situation LONG before the teacher had to deal with it.

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[quote]kakugo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The school in Cali is for teens with behavioral problems. The teacher is probably an old hardcore dude who takes no shit. When the kid refused to take out the trash, the teacher HAD to take charge or lose the class.

In Korea, the teachers walk around with riding crops and really lay it into the kids. Koreans realize that kids are not yet rational beings and need to be beaten as necessary. Otherwise the schools turn into a joke…kind of like here.

We need to learn from the Koreans.

I live in a dorm with a few hundred Koreans, and over 2000 students from Asia, and a few Africans. The Koreans are well known for beating their girl friends. Korean girls who date non-Korean guys or study abroad are often singled out.

To quote one Korean girl “I don’t want to walk through the lobby past those boys. They made me keep drinking until I was sick, then I passed out. I don’t remember what they did to me”. And my friend who was beaten by her boyfriend for 6 months. Then when she left him he beat her again for embarrassing him. I could keep going, but I think you get the idea.

It’s not just two cases either. It is so frequent, that among the 20 or so countries represented here in the international dorm, the Koreans stand out greatly for their abuse. It happens among other cultures, sure, especially Africans.

Maybe it’s because there are more Koreans than Africans that they stand out more. But compared to other Asian countries, the Koreans have a well-established reputation.

Yes, we need to learn about using violence to settle difference and gain respect, especially from a young age. [/quote]

We’ve got plenty of teen-on-teen violence here in the States and we mollycoddle the kids.

Korean kids beating on each other is why they’re so tough. The Koreans survive surrounded by 3 large violent countries/cultures.

If a girl is being beaten by her Korean bf, her daddy should lay the punk out, btw.

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[quote]btm62 wrote:
I have a 14 year old son. I am now once again very thankful for the person he is. I have never had to strike him save a swat on his behind when he was younger. This boy sounds like he needs some parenting. [/quote]

It seems that the two parent household is now in the minority.

Let the liberals celebrate.

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[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
LOL. I give up. You guys win. I’m going to go punch every single student that defy me from now on. 5 years of job satisfaction and counting isn’t worth it if those punk kids walk all over me like I’m some bitch. Thanks, guys. Now I know where to go for advice on classroom discipline. ;-)[/quote]

No one is saying to clobber someone who defies you. If that student defies you, pushes you, slaps you, THEN we’re saying to hit him.

You are doing the kid a favor if you smack him. Tough love, man.

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BF Bullpup,

That is one HOT babe, btw!! Would love to teach her a few times…er, things. ;D

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Oh come on, really now, if that’s what you REALLY think people are saying, then you aren’t smart enough to be a teacher anyway. Although I think you realize that what you said isn’t what everone else was saying, and you’re just being hard headed and stubborn about the whole thing.

[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
LOL. I give up. You guys win. I’m going to go punch every single student that defy me from now on. 5 years of job satisfaction and counting isn’t worth it if those punk kids walk all over me like I’m some bitch. Thanks, guys. Now I know where to go for advice on classroom discipline. ;-)[/quote]

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I don’t those of us who disagree are saying that the teacher shouldn’t have used any kind of force on the kid. He just used an excess of it. Multiple punches to the head are not an appropriate response to a slap in the face by a juvenile. He should have grabbed and restrained him to stop any future violence instead of throwing multiple punches to a fourteen year old’s head.

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Bf and Kombat, I agree that 3 punches was excessive, but in the teachers defense it was probably a lot of fun.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I don’t those of us who disagree are saying that the teacher shouldn’t have used any kind of force on the kid. He just used an excess of it. Multiple punches to the head are not an appropriate response to a slap in the face by a juvenile. He should have grabbed and restrained him to stop any future violence instead of throwing multiple punches to a fourteen year old’s head.[/quote]

well, the first was to get his attention. The second was to keep his attention. The third was to convince him to not do such things again.

Once a kid is classified as being a punk (which would change from state to state) they should be put in schools where the teachers can really wollop 'em. Probably at least 20% of teenagers need good and repeated beatings to civilise them. Force them to learn and beat them if they don’t — for ex, they don’t learn the quadratic formula, they get a good crack across the arms with a stout wooden rod.

Those old nuns who used to beat the shit out of me, one with a rubber truncheon, knew wtf they were doing!!

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HAHA

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At my school, when I used to go to school one of my teachers threw a kid out of a window. Sure, it was on the first floor and the kid tried to punch him, but a window! That’s gold.

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I’m a highschooler, and I’m not exactly a nerdy kid or anything so I’m not being biased towards people who pick on other kids ect… but seriously, If I was that kids teacher I would of decked him out. Hell even if it was a teacher I liked I would have decked him out.