[quote]SkinnyFatWhitey wrote:
I don’t like the shorter range of motion with t-bar rows (with the 45’s hitting me in the chest or face) so i used to just wrap a towel around the bar to give me more ROM… Until my fingers felt like they were going to snap…
Then i just said FUCK IT! and switched to Bent Over Rows[/quote]
If the range of motion is just so limited, use lots of 35lb plates rather than a few 45lb plates.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:
For me, T-bars have always been like a cross between the stretch of a chinup and the thickness building qualities of bentover rows. Franco Columbu and Robbie Robinson were huge proponents of T-bar rowing and it’s hard to argue with their results. Easier on the lower back also.[/quote]
Lee Haney also. He is probably the main reason I stuck with them and fully believed they would work for me even when I was smaller. They did.
The picture above is the Hammer Strength high row pull down…the greatest machine ever created…next to the rest of their shit.
If you can get to 5 plates a side on that for more than 5 reps and your back still isn’t big, just give up bodybuilding.[/quote]
A very well-designed machine indeed (second only to the HS Iso-Lateral Horizontal Bench Press) coupled with either Chest Supported or Old School Barbell T-Bar Rows, Weighted Chin-ups, and Cable Face Pulls you’ll not go wrong.
[quote]Rhino Jockey wrote:
I love the Hammer Strength High rows (and the Chest supported T-bars).
X do you do the HS rows with one arm or both at the same time?
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Professor X: Also interested in your thoughts/experiences regarding single arm usage on the HS High Row Pull Down.
BTW: I absolutely detest the HS Iso-Lateral Incline Press… probably because I am weak as a school girl on it… A real love hate relationship there…
Honestly, Corner Tbars was the first exercise i ever pulled something on (Kinda felt like my Subscapularis, but who knows).
but i do love the high hammerstrength rows. I practically do em every week. you can load the shit out of it, get a great explosion, and hold that weight back for an awesome eccentric portion. Tears my back to shreds.
How disappointing that so many people think of those stupid chest supported machines as T-Bar rows…
I personally prefer T-Bar rows to bent over rows. I like going heavy on this type of exercise, and prefer the close, neutral grip of t-bars on my shoulders. More generally, it’s just a more comfortable exercise FOR ME.
I also like using an attachment that allows using a slightly wider than shoulder width grip, really nails the upper back muscles when doing them, though you can’t beat the stretch in your lats you get from using a v grip attachment.
fuck rows
use the one that allows you to feel the desired muscle group more(lats,rhomboids etc.)
for me this is seated cable rows, for you it might be pendalay rows.just find out which one and progress on it and eat!!!.
t barrr, just cant get in the grove on bb rows
The T-Bars I’ve seen, yet, don’t sport wide-enough grips for a feasible comparison to bb rows - unless you mean T-Bar rows vs rather narrow-grip bb rows.
Hence: two incomparable exercises for me.
[quote]FattyFat wrote:
The T-Bars I’ve seen, yet, don’t sport wide-enough grips for a feasible comparison to bb rows - unless you mean T-Bar rows vs rather narrow-grip bb rows.
Hence: two incomparable exercises for me.
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I just use a cable attachment that is wide enough and stable enough to use for T-bar rows.
If you have access to heavy dumbells, try bent over row with two dumbells. Better than barbell IMO.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
I focus on them in phases usually…I’ll do a lot of BB Rows (as I am currently) for a few weeks, then the next few weeks I’ll focus mostly on Tbars, other times pendlay rows, other times “devil rows”, etc etc. I guess you could say basically cycling my back exercises just like you would cycle bench exercises.[/quote]
I pretty much do the same thing (cycle my rowing exercises) I’ll usually stick to bb rows for like a month then switch to t-bar rows the next month, then I’ll do two weeks of kroc rows for high reps. Then do the cycle all over again.
The advantage of the T-bar is that it reduces the resistance in your weakest position due to the semicircular motion of the weight. In a plain bent-over row, the resistance hits you like a ton of bricks in the end position and hardly at all in start position.