From the video, kind of looked like he was walking all over the guy or sparring someone who wasn’t fighting back, that was only the first round. It was his choice. Nothing to get upset over.
If the guy feels cheated, do a rematch, and I doubt he’ll be given quarter again.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
From the video, kind of looked like he was walking all over the guy or sparring someone who wasn’t fighting back, that was only the first round. It was his choice. Nothing to get upset over.
If the guy feels cheated, do a rematch, and I doubt he’ll be given quarter again.[/quote]
Then he should’ve gotten his rounds in, taken the win, and then fought someone better next time. He looks like an arrogant dickbag by saying “Holy crap, I’m SOOO much better than this guy I should just leave before I hurt him!” That’s ridiculous.
Bas Rutten seemed to think it was fine.
Would anyone know about this guy if he just won the fight??? Smart move…
also, i wish more mma fighters would stop when it’s clear the other guy is knocked out. You know when a guy is out, and it’s just class-less and scummy to continue pounding on someone who’s conscienceless.
What the fuck are you talking about Aggv? You’re disrespecting the sport!
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Would anyone know about this guy if he just won the fight??? Smart move…
also, i wish more mma fighters would stop when it’s clear the other guy is knocked out. You know when a guy is out, and it’s just class-less and scummy to continue pounding on someone who’s conscienceless. [/quote]
Ha, very true. Everybody knows about this guy now.
I have no problem with it. Obviously if it wasn’t an amateur fight then I would say that he shouldn’t have done that.
Have any of you guys ever played one on one basketball where the guy you were going against was just bad and it wasn’t even fun? Well that is what I think of when I think of the dude dominating the fight and then just stopping it.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about Aggv? You’re disrespecting the sport!
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well played sarcasm
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
This shit would never fly back when The Ultimate Warrior was in the ring.[/quote]
Correct! Becuase the Ultimate Warrior was…“sent in a capsule from a place far from here, and I came here for one reason.To attack and keep cominâ??. Not to ask, but just to give. Not to want, but just to send.”
His opponent wasn’t really in the fight. I think I would have talked to the ref or tired for a swift, humane Ko.
Could have also just subbed him if he thought himself so superior.
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
This shit would never fly back when The Ultimate Warrior was in the ring.[/quote]
Correct! Becuase the Ultimate Warrior was…“sent in a capsule from a place far from here, and I came here for one reason.To attack and keep cominâ??. Not to ask, but just to give. Not to want, but just to send.”
His opponent wasn’t really in the fight. I think I would have talked to the ref or tired for a swift, humane Ko.
I’ve seen this and mulled over it for a while.
I hate to turn a negative light on things, but I really don’t believe the outcome would have been the same had he not been on camera.
Had he not been clearly able to demonstrate that he was winning, would he have sacrificed the win?
If it had been a competitive contest and he happened to concuss his opponent with a good shot, would he stop and tap out?
I really dont want to be pesemistic, but I highly suspect this to be a demonstration of the “Youtube” generation of fighters.
It all makes a very nice story and makes the guy look a champ, but its not in the nature of combat sport.
It you vs. me.
In powerlifting your opponent is the barbell; a weight to be moved.
In combat sports your opponent is just that; an object that has to be put in its place.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about Aggv? You’re disrespecting the sport!
It is Bisping, who can blame him for taking the extra shot?
To be fair he probably wasn’t certain he was out from the first shot. Happened pretty fast.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Would anyone know about this guy if he just won the fight??? Smart move…
also, i wish more mma fighters would stop when it’s clear the other guy is knocked out. You know when a guy is out, and it’s just class-less and scummy to continue pounding on someone who’s conscienceless. [/quote]
On the flip side, fights get stopped way too quick at times, imo. I say amateur air on the side of caution, but in the pros let them go a little longer.
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]twojarslave wrote:
This shit would never fly back when The Ultimate Warrior was in the ring.[/quote]
Correct! Becuase the Ultimate Warrior was…“sent in a capsule from a place far from here, and I came here for one reason.To attack and keep cominâ??. Not to ask, but just to give. Not to want, but just to send.”
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NOW YOU MUST DEAL WITH THE CREATION OF ALL THE UNPLEASANTRIES IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AS I FEEL THE INJECTION FROM THE GODS ABOVE!
It was the first round, right? Maybe the other kid is a slow starter, maybe he just isn’t a good striker and was having trouble getting a takedown, you know? It isn’t like he was really beating the brakes off him, the kid was still coming forward with a his hands up.
He cheated his opponent out of a fight, cheated the fans out of a fight, and made himself look like a jerk in the name of “sportsmanship.” I’m not usually big on internet arguments, but this one really got to me lol
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
What the fuck are you talking about Aggv? You’re disrespecting the sport!
It is Bisping, who can blame him for taking the extra shot?
To be fair he probably wasn’t certain he was out from the first shot. Happened pretty fast.[/quote]
Maybe, from what I remember, they had quite a few from Bisping flapping his gums. So more like one to put him out, one more to shut him up.
[quote]Melvin Smiley wrote:
It was the first round, right? Maybe the other kid is a slow starter, maybe he just isn’t a good striker and was having trouble getting a takedown, you know? It isn’t like he was really beating the brakes off him, the kid was still coming forward with a his hands up.[/quote]
This is the “full” fight. The guy tapped himself out around 3:30 into the first round:
I’d say he was winning that round (so far), but he wasn’t dominating the guy. And he clearly seemed like stand-up specialist with limited grappling ability (he wasn’t sinking the chokes after multiple attempts). MMA isn’t like basketball. If you’re winning bball 9-2 in a game to 11, then for sure it’s a blowout. In MMA, freak comebacks happen all the time, from a quick knockout to sinking in an unexpected choke or armbar (just ask Sonnen).
I took a quick look around and just from what I saw online, the guy who ended up with the win has at least like a 2-2 record, so he’s reasonably experienced, not some schlub off the street. Tapping out like the guy did was, at best, a dick move that now put an asterisk on this other guy’s record, and at worst, a suspicious publicity-grab for this amateur fight league.
Shit is gay, did both guys get a trophy afterwards…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Shit is gay, did both guys get a trophy afterwards…[/quote]
Nice!
[quote]Silyak wrote:
There is honor in beating a worthy opponent. By refusing to accept the victory, you imply that your opponent was not worthy of you and that you don’t respect the sport.
Sort of like if I’m wrestling with my 3 year-old son, I might let him ‘win.’ I recognize that he isn’t really a worthy opponent and that it serves no purpose to just pin him over and over again.
By beating an opponent soundly using your best effort, you recognize that your opponent is a competent threat and that you respect the sport for its own sake. You acknowledge his courage shown by continuing to fight even though he is clearly getting the worst of most exchanges. [/quote]
I think the pugilistic aspect needs to be considered. A fighters chin is a finite resource, you may have an iron one today, next month it could become glass… It’s not like chins or the ability to take punishment to the head and organs improves with a fighters life. The more you get the lights turned out the easier it is.
So in a situation where neither guy felt they had anything to gain, especially the guy who was laying the beating down, I don’t see anything wrong other than… If he were so skilled he should have subbed the guy, being amateurs he may have just had some decent striking and not been confident in his ground game… Guy had no real business in there with him trying to standup, and he got reversed on the ground, couldn’t get a simple trip of a single leg.