Just found this thread. Hope it gets revived, seeing as I literally just got a guitar yesterday and going to finally try my hand at another serious hobby other then lifting. With no music background it’s going to be tough, but I’m excited.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just found this thread. Hope it gets revived, seeing as I literally just got a guitar yesterday and going to finally try my hand at another serious hobby other then lifting. With no music background it’s going to be tough, but I’m excited. [/quote]
Practice, practice, practice!
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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just found this thread. Hope it gets revived, seeing as I literally just got a guitar yesterday and going to finally try my hand at another serious hobby other then lifting. With no music background it’s going to be tough, but I’m excited. [/quote]
Dude I was in your shoes 3 years ago. I’m still nowhere near what I’d call “competent”, but I’m sure as hell a lot better than I was back in 09.
Seriously though, check out the justinguitar.com beginner course. It’s free and is probably the most organized one there is. Spend a good hour a day (minimum) on serious, focused practice. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
Does anyone else use ULTIMATE-GUITAR.com for tabs? I find playing other music that I find difficult very good for practice…becoming a better player etc.
I just moved to cali so I left FOUR of my guitars back in Florida! I just bought a slew of new pedals…Jeckle n Hyde, bad horsie 2 wah pedal…all left in the FL. Hopefully my fam can ship them to me. How does one ship a 120 watt amp?
The only guitar I was able to move with was my acoustic. 
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
How does one ship a 120 watt amp?
[/quote]
Amps can be expensive to ship.
If you ship tube amps, take the tubes out and label them and wrap them separately.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Does anyone else use ULTIMATE-GUITAR.com for tabs? I find playing other music that I find difficult very good for practice…becoming a better player etc.
I just moved to cali so I left FOUR of my guitars back in Florida! I just bought a slew of new pedals…Jeckle n Hyde, bad horsie 2 wah pedal…all left in the FL. Hopefully my fam can ship them to me. How does one ship a 120 watt amp?
The only guitar I was able to move with was my acoustic. :-([/quote]
I’ve used Ultimate Guitar to learn things for fill work. It’s ok, but voicings are suspect. I think it’s best used to get you in the ballpark, then listen to the original. Of course some of the tabs are totally wrong.
Do you need to ship a combo or head?
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just found this thread. Hope it gets revived, seeing as I literally just got a guitar yesterday and going to finally try my hand at another serious hobby other then lifting. With no music background it’s going to be tough, but I’m excited. [/quote]
Practice, practice, practice!
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But practice the RIGHT things the RIGHT way! Learn theory and technique. Classical theory, it applies to everything.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Just found this thread. Hope it gets revived, seeing as I literally just got a guitar yesterday and going to finally try my hand at another serious hobby other then lifting. With no music background it’s going to be tough, but I’m excited. [/quote]
Practice, practice, practice!
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But practice the RIGHT things the RIGHT way! Learn theory and technique. Classical theory, it applies to everything.
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Meh.
^^ really?^^
It makes life so much easier.
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
^^ really?^^
It makes life so much easier.[/quote]
Yeah, I’m not convinced that it’s mandatory. Mind you, I’m self taught, play by ear. I learned theory along the way, modes, etc. I can read a little. I found that learning shapes and sounds and such enables the mind to connect with the fingers better than straight learning to read etc.
When I was giving lessons I always made sure the students were getting finger exercises, scales, chords, and ear training from the get go. Some teachers start with “Mel Bay” or “Berkely Method”. That’s fine. I think that’s a more frustrating route to go for someone who wants to just jam on the damned thing.
I only WISH I had “YouTube” when I was first learning. . Holy shit.
I got my 8 year old daughter a squier-mini strat. All she wants to do is play “Iron Man”. She didn’t need classical theory for that.
I agree with you to a large measure, but I guess it depends on what you want to do. For myself, working with songwriters and producing people, it’s really valuable to understand the Harmonized Chords scale for instance. I can listen to a singer’s melody over some basic chord changes and I know hmm…his progression is 1-7-6-5, a standard well used descending chord progression. So I’m like, hey, let’s try this melody over a 2-5-1. Same emlody, different progression.
You can also figure songs out much quicker because you understand this chord typically leads to this one, ect. The actual reading of staff I could care less about.
Iron Man is a good place for any girl to start. Next up, Smoke On The Water?
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I agree with you to a large measure, but I guess it depends on what you want to do. For myself, working with songwriters and producing people, it’s really valuable to understand the Harmonized Chords scale for instance. I can listen to a singer’s melody over some basic chord changes and I know hmm…his progression is 1-7-6-5, a standard well used descending chord progression. So I’m like, hey, let’s try this melody over a 2-5-1. Same emlody, different progression.
You can also figure songs out much quicker because you understand this chord typically leads to this one, ect.
[/quote]
I don’t disagree with that, but I don’t think you need to understand “harmonized chords” by name or formal training when you can ‘hear it’. A trained ear and good intuition knows where the chords lead.
I could hear Lydian mode and play and improvise Lydian before I knew it was called “Lydian” or why it was Lydian. I knew ‘why’ on the fretboard because I knew what real estate I was playing on the fretboard and knew that if this note was the tonic then this other note made that sound I was looking for and knew it resolved on this note here.
Ditto any of the modes, keys, scales, etc. I knew that if my root chord was here, then that minor scale sound I was looking for was rooted 3 frets down and that meant playing this shape here, this other shape here, etc to the point where you just look at a fret and ‘hear’ it.
Not so much different than intuitive weight training, really. I don’t really need to know plasmorgasmic hemohypertrophy theory (just made that up) to know that I grow when I do x, y, and z. I don’t really need to know that this muscle here is called “tridominus anterior” (just made that up) to know how to hit it with cables, etc.
I totally understand what you’re saying though. I think it’s important, but not right away.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I agree with you to a large measure, but I guess it depends on what you want to do. For myself, working with songwriters and producing people, it’s really valuable to understand the Harmonized Chords scale for instance. I can listen to a singer’s melody over some basic chord changes and I know hmm…his progression is 1-7-6-5, a standard well used descending chord progression. So I’m like, hey, let’s try this melody over a 2-5-1. Same emlody, different progression.
You can also figure songs out much quicker because you understand this chord typically leads to this one, ect.
[/quote]
I don’t disagree with that, but I don’t think you need to understand “harmonized chords” by name or formal training when you can ‘hear it’. A trained ear and good intuition knows where the chords lead.
I could hear Lydian mode and play and improvise Lydian before I knew it was called “Lydian” or why it was Lydian. I knew ‘why’ on the fretboard because I knew what real estate I was playing on the fretboard and knew that if this note was the tonic then this other note made that sound I was looking for and knew it resolved on this note here.
Ditto any of the modes, keys, scales, etc. I knew that if my root chord was here, then that minor scale sound I was looking for was rooted 3 frets down and that meant playing this shape here, this other shape here, etc to the point where you just look at a fret and ‘hear’ it.
Not so much different than intuitive weight training, really. I don’t really need to know plasmorgasmic hemohypertrophy theory (just made that up) to know that I grow when I do x, y, and z. I don’t really need to know that this muscle here is called “tridominus anterior” (just made that up) to know how to hit it with cables, etc.
I totally understand what you’re saying though. I think it’s important, but not right away.[/quote]
Quick question:
Should I do drop sets on my tridominus anterior after benching, or just straight sets? 
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
I agree with you to a large measure, but I guess it depends on what you want to do. For myself, working with songwriters and producing people, it’s really valuable to understand the Harmonized Chords scale for instance. I can listen to a singer’s melody over some basic chord changes and I know hmm…his progression is 1-7-6-5, a standard well used descending chord progression. So I’m like, hey, let’s try this melody over a 2-5-1. Same emlody, different progression.
You can also figure songs out much quicker because you understand this chord typically leads to this one, ect.
[/quote]
I don’t disagree with that, but I don’t think you need to understand “harmonized chords” by name or formal training when you can ‘hear it’. A trained ear and good intuition knows where the chords lead.
I could hear Lydian mode and play and improvise Lydian before I knew it was called “Lydian” or why it was Lydian. I knew ‘why’ on the fretboard because I knew what real estate I was playing on the fretboard and knew that if this note was the tonic then this other note made that sound I was looking for and knew it resolved on this note here.
Ditto any of the modes, keys, scales, etc. I knew that if my root chord was here, then that minor scale sound I was looking for was rooted 3 frets down and that meant playing this shape here, this other shape here, etc to the point where you just look at a fret and ‘hear’ it.
Not so much different than intuitive weight training, really. I don’t really need to know plasmorgasmic hemohypertrophy theory (just made that up) to know that I grow when I do x, y, and z. I don’t really need to know that this muscle here is called “tridominus anterior” (just made that up) to know how to hit it with cables, etc.
I totally understand what you’re saying though. I think it’s important, but not right away.[/quote]
Quick question:
Should I do drop sets on my tridominus anterior after benching, or just straight sets?
[/quote]
You should harmonize it with your bicuspidus major for 12 bars, foam roll, then eat some coconut oil.
Thanx for the reply guys. I just would like to ship my guitars and my 120watt crate amp. It’s just one amp no head. I’ve just been wailing on my poor acoustic…lol It’s a cheaper Mitchell guitar I traveled with it because I wasn’t that worried or concerned if it was damaged or stolen.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Thanx for the reply guys. I just would like to ship my guitars and my 120watt crate amp. It’s just one amp no head. I’ve just been wailing on my poor acoustic…lol It’s a cheaper Mitchell guitar I traveled with it because I wasn’t that worried or concerned if it was damaged or stolen.[/quote]
I’d slack the strings to zero tension and put a t shirt between the strings and the neck, make sure it fits tight in a hardshell case and then put it in a box with packing material. Most music stores have plenty of boxes that guitars and cases come in. Insure them and take pics. For the combo I would have whoever back home unscrew the amp chassis/electronics, bubble wrap it and ship in in a separate box from the amp/speaker box. Speakers are incredible tough, nothing will happen to them.
On a side note, I’m the 1st person form VT to sue UPS over a damaged guitar claim and win.
I’d didn’t take the hurt away…
Sweet, a lot of activity really quickly!
I’m definitely practicing. I’m in college during the semester I save of up like a mofo so I don’t have to get a summer job. My friends don’t do that, so basically the first half of my day I’m bored as hell. Lifting only takes and hour out of the day, so I have time to kill. So I’m just getting the guitar, practicing basic finger exercises and chords for about 4 hours a day right now, just spread through out the day.
I’m taking Steely’s route I think. Like I said, this is just a hobby. I want to be able to just have fun, play songs I like and just kind of be a versatile human being. lol
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I want to be able to just have fun, play songs I like and just kind of be a versatile human being. lol[/quote]
“Versatile Human Beings”
Look, you even got yerself a band name already.
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Does anyone else use ULTIMATE-GUITAR.com for tabs? I find playing other music that I find difficult very good for practice…becoming a better player etc.
I just moved to cali so I left FOUR of my guitars back in Florida! I just bought a slew of new pedals…Jeckle n Hyde, bad horsie 2 wah pedal…all left in the FL. Hopefully my fam can ship them to me. How does one ship a 120 watt amp?
The only guitar I was able to move with was my acoustic. :-([/quote]
I use songsterr.com for tabs. You can look at the tabs for free, and there are a lot of cool features if you get songsterr+, but it’s a little pricey IMO at $10/month.
For youtube lessons, check out these channels:
guitarjamzdotcom
guitarlessons365song
justinsandercoe
justinsandercoesongs
martyzsongs
mastertheguitar
papastache102
youcanlearnguitar
[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
Thanx for the reply guys. I just would like to ship my guitars and my 120watt crate amp. It’s just one amp no head. I’ve just been wailing on my poor acoustic…lol It’s a cheaper Mitchell guitar I traveled with it because I wasn’t that worried or concerned if it was damaged or stolen.[/quote]
I’d slack the strings to zero tension and put a t shirt between the strings and the neck, make sure it fits tight in a hardshell case and then put it in a box with packing material. Most music stores have plenty of boxes that guitars and cases come in. Insure them and take pics. For the combo I would have whoever back home unscrew the amp chassis/electronics, bubble wrap it and ship in in a separate box from the amp/speaker box. Speakers are incredible tough, nothing will happen to them.
On a side note, I’m the 1st person form VT to sue UPS over a damaged guitar claim and win.
I’d didn’t take the hurt away…
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Great Info! Thank you!