I am on HRT - 200/week Test cyp. I’ve injected perhaps 15 times now. This morning, I had something weird happen and I’d like to find out if anything similar has happened to anyone else here.
Injection went normally, smooth in, I squeeze it out very slowly, over perhaps 40 seconds. When I take the needle out a teaspoon or so of blood surges out of the hole. This rarely happens - I usually just see a red dot or maybe a drop.
So I wipe up the blood, expecting more, but it stopped immediately after that one surge. And then, I notice a lump developing just underneath the skin on the injection site. It turns into a fairly hard lump which I assume is the testosterone, just under the skin on my thigh. It’s been about 6 hours and the lump seems to be slowly dissapating and my leg aches a bit.
I’m thinking perhaps just by sheer bad luck I injected the test directly into a vein? Is that possible? As I’ve said, 14 out of 15 times it goes in nice, no bleeding, no lump. Any ideas? Am I going to turn green and rip off my shirt in my next client meeting?
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, I am assuming you are aspirating. If not, you are a fucking tool. If so, disregard that remark
Anyway, as long as you aspirated, all should be fine. You may have nicked something on the way in/out as the previous poster said. Ive seen lumps, blood and even spurts of blood and all was well.
If your unsure of proper techniques, please let us know and we will point you towards plenty of helpful information. Its not worth risking infection/problems by not following proper procedures.
Look, I’ve never done this before I was put on HRT. The doctor did not mention how to “aspirate”, and I still don’t know. I’d be grateful to be pointed to any resources that explains this. Thanks.
After sticking it, you pull back on the plunger slightly to see if any blood is being drawn into the barrel. If so you’ve hit a vein and the injection needs to be aborted. Change needles and try again.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
You’d be dead if you’d injected into a vein. You probably nicked a venuoule on the way in. For God’s sake aspirate before you push.[/quote]
I’ll have to disagree with the death prognosis from hitting a vein - it is not ideal, but I doubt very much it would be anywhere close to lethal. Do you really think they would let people do this shit themselves at home with very little training if it was lethal - I doubt it.
What the poster is describing is a hematoma. He either did hit a vein or he punctured a fat one on the way in and it bled a little bit under the skin causing the “lump”. These will generally be absorbed by the body within 24hr.
If you want it to go away fast the best thing to do is apply pressure until the lump disapates, this will also generally stop the internal bleeding. If it doesn’t stop and the lump keeps getting bigger - go to the ER.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
MODOK wrote:
You’d be dead if you’d injected into a vein. You probably nicked a venuoule on the way in. For God’s sake aspirate before you push.
Why would you be dead if you injected into a vein?
Surely, your shot would just mix with venous blood, and enter the main circulation. How would that cause problems?
Also, yes you canspirate, and I would recommend this to a beginner, but there comes a point where you realise that aspiration is not a terribly accurate way of determining whether you are about to puncture a veinule, or arteriole. Due chiefly to movement of the needle tip, Vs the diameter of such blood vessels.
Yes I might be a fucking tool for not aspirating, but I have surely injected over 200 times, and have NEVER seen any blood in the barrel, despite nicking blood vessels on occassion. I gave up aspirating after a while. Flame me if you want but I stand by my decision.
bushy[/quote]
LOL, your a fucking tool!
Sorry couldnt resist.
My post was directed towards newbies.
Not someone who has pinned himself 200 or more times.
The OP should at a minimum follow safe procedures like using fresh pinz, fresh syringes, alcohol on the site and amp, washed hands etc.
Here is a bit extensive procedure blatanly stolen from another site.
Wash your hands.
Lay out your vial of testosterone, needle(s) and/or syringe, alcohol wipes, and tissue on a clean surface (e.g. a clean
towel, paper towel, etc).
Sit down and get comfy.
Secure the lure-lock on the fit on the syringe.
Unseat/loosen the cap from the needle–leave the cap on loose until ready to draw the testosterone. Remember to
never touch the needle!
Wipe off the ?nipple? on the top of the vial with an alcohol wipe.
Remove the cap of the needle without touching the needle or the needle touching anything. Draw 1cc of air into the
syringe by pulling back on the plunger.
Up-end the testosterone vial.
Insert the needle through the center of the neoprene nipple.
the fluid, slowly depress the plunger, pushing all of the air into the oil (you?ll see
With the needle tip immersed
IN
the bubbles).
After all the air is out of the syringe, slowly pull back on the plunger until the proper amount of testosterone is
drawn into the syringe. (Not everyone?s dosage is the same. Check your prescription or consult with your physician
or pharmacist for the correct amount. Some will inject more than 1cc, some less.)
You may need to ?pump? the plunger to get a complete fill. As long as you don?t remove the needle, you can let the
fluid go in and out as much as needed.
When you have the correct amount in the syringe, gently pull the needle out of the vial.
Draw a small amount of air into the syringe–one very small bubble.
Slip the needle back into the cap if you want to take a break before injecting. (It?s really important not to touch
the needle itself at any point.)
Pick an injection site on your thigh or buttocks. You?ll want to alternate sites, so remember which site you last
injected. For your thigh, target the spot by placing one hand just about/at your knee and the other at your hip–the
area in between is pretty much fair game. The best area is the outer part of the quad, so stay to the outside of the
midline of your thigh, but not too far to the outside/underside. The buttocks is slightly more tricky ? both to reach
and to isolate the exact spot. Talk to your physician or nurse about the exact location.
Cleanse the injection site with an alcohol wipe. Wipe in a circular motion, to a circumference of about 2 inches
surrounding the injection site. Allow the skin to dry to prevent the alcohol from being introduced into the muscle as the
needle is inserted, causing pain or burning. Remember not to touch the area just cleansed with the alcohol wipe.
Uncap the needle – remember not to touch the needle or the swabbed area on your thigh. The air bubble should be
near the plunger end of the syringe.
Go to it and stick it in! Fast, slow - it doesn?t matter. Pierce the skin at a 90 degree angle. It must go through the
subcutaneous tissue/fatty tissue and deep into the muscle.
If using a 1" needle, stop about 1/8" from the base; if using a 1.5" needle, stop about 1/4" from the base. (This is
true for averaged sized bodies. Talk with your physician about the appropriate needle length for your body.)
After the needle has been inserted, aspirate by holding the barrel of the syringe steady with your nondominant hand
and by pulling back on the plunger with your dominant hand. You?ll see some air bubbles in the testosterone. If
there?s just air/clear fluid–no blood–then it?s ok to proceed. If there is blood either push the needle in or pull
back a little and pull back on the plunger again, or pull the needle out and start over.
by depressing the plunger until all of the
Holding the syringe steady, inject the testosterone steadily and slowly
testosterone is injected. The air bubble in the syringe should follow the testosterone and will ?pack? the
testosterone down into your muscle. There will be a slight a ?pop? as the bubble leaves the syringe.
Pull the needle out – again, slow or fast depending upon your preference. (I think it?s usually best to pull out slow–
sounds dirty, doesn?t it?!) Sometimes the injection site may bleed a little when you withdraw the needle, just be
prepared to apply some gentle pressure with some clean tissue(s).
Slide the needle back into the cap. (Remember DO NOT reseat the cap by pressing the tip of the cap towards the
needle?s point.)
Dispose of your needles properly in a sharps container.
Some points are a bit anal, but it is a good enough guide for a newby.
There are many veins in under the skin of the legs compared to injecting in the butt.
You have to look for these veins. It is harder to see them with a tan. I try to get some morning sunlight to see them. I press a plastic tube on the selected spot. Then clean that area with a swap and the mark persists. I often get zero blood now and never seem to get bruises any more as I did before selecting locations carefully.
The first time I didt it(which was just a few weeks ago so I am no expert) I forot to aspirate…then after about 10 minutes I realized that I wasn’t going to die, but never forgot it again…two weeks ago, I drew blood, pulled it out, drained the blood, got a huge gush of blood through my newly produced wound. So I changed needles and reset it successfully that time… Who knows if your gonna die if you mainline it, but why would you really want to take the chance? It takes about a half a second to do assuming you get all muscle…
