What would be the advantages/disadvantages of ingesting carbs pre-workout(30-40g)? Then having only one p+c meal post-workout. Would it inhibit fat loss when cardio comes around 'cuz there’s glucogen in the muscles? Or is there something else I’m not seeing?
Take this as gospel! As long as you are getting adequate protein, some efa’s, eating more than one meal a day, and keeping your calories hypocaloric you should lose fat. It doesn’t matter all that much were the rest of your calories are coming from… could be bread, could be jelly beans. The difference in body comp will be miniscule. Low GI is out the door when combined with pro and fat. And if your caloric limit allows for it you can get much more than 100g of carbs and lose fat. A hypocaloric ketogenic diet has no advantage over a hypocaloric isocaloric diet. Anyone that thinks otherwise should spend less time on this website and more time at their local university library. EOD.
Let’s see, I could choose the opinions of T-mag writers or you. Hmmmm…
Come on, man. Accept what you say as gospel? First of all, we haven’t a clue as to who you are or what your credentials may or may not be. Secondly, what you say flies in the face of many who have provided credentials publicly. And lastly, you basically attempt to insult all of those who don’t agree with you. Why are we to believe any of it, much less accept it as “gospel?”
Actually it’s true and you should take it as gospel. It’s also no secret, it’s the basic fundamental of dieting. You eat less than you burn you will lose weight. You eat more than you burn you will gain it. If you are eating sufficient protein, getting your EFAs along with being in a hypocaloric state then most of what you lose should be fat. Assuming you are weight training of course which you should be if you are reading this board. It’s all based on the law of thermodynamics which you are not going to magically circumvent with some well thought out meal combos.
Massive eating was designed to promote muscle gain without minimal fat gain, by manipulating how you ingest your calories, in which it will probably do. It will also work for fat loss but so would 1000 other diet plans. The best diet plan for anyone is the one that they can follow long term. For some this means a ketogenic diet, for others like myself it means something like a 40/30/30. Fact is I could lose weight on ANY of these diets should I choose. I only prefer my way of dieting because it fits my lifestyle and food tastes.
What JMB has done with massive eating is to ensure that we are eating for our type. Some people have a tough time with carbs, and for those obviously a limited carb diet should be followed. But for your average person so long as you get your protein and EFAs you can get the rest of your carbs where you want them and still lose the fat.
Now there is still the question of eating “healthy” but that is up to you. It’s better to get your carbs from whole sources like oatmeal, vegetables, long grain rice, etc… but it won’t make much of a difference in terms of fat loss.
I know it sounds too simple, but in reality it is just that. People tend to overcomplicate things which is why people have become rich on the whole diet and exercise scene trying to make you believe that “their” diet is the “best”. A lot of these people have PHD’s but surely they can’t all be right can they? I won’t follow someone’s recommendations blindly regardless or not if they have a BS, MD, PHD or if they read Body for Life and know all the answers. If all doctors were right why would we need second opinions? Try a diet, if it works stick with it and don’t jump on the next bandwagon just because it’s supposed to be better.
JJ, so low GI doesn’t matter when carbs are combined with protein and fat? Great! I’m on an iso diet so I guess that means I can go back to eating my jelly bean and butter sandwiches.
Yeah, I guess I’ll just take in all my carbs in the form of Frosted Flakes and Snickers bars. You have to be absolutely kidding me. Laws of thermodynamics are great and extremely logical if you were talking about a maching that simply sees “fuel consumed” versus “fuel burned.” The human body doesn’t work that way. Your cells don’t care if you consume a certain amount of calories. All they see if nutrients in the blood and the body’s hormonal state at the time. If you’re walking around with jacked up insulin with whatever you consider to be an optimal caloric level, you WILL NOT lose fat optimally! I’m not saying that a ketogenic diet is necessarily better than an isocaloric diet. Whatever works for you is best for you. However, I will not take “as gospel” what you’ve said because it’s simply not the case.