SUV Family Chased By Bikers

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All I can say is I would be highly pissed and would get off my bike and approach a driver if THEY FUCKING HIT ME IN THE BACK OF MY BIKE WHILE DRIVING.

Call me crazy.

if that person then runs off and hits other bikes and people…don’t you fault that guy?[/quote]
Pretty much. The car driver was 100% to blame for this incident.

He ran into the back of another car = at fault situation.
He then ran over multiple other people = his fault.
He got his arse handed to him = well deserved arse kicking.

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
the first thing that happens is the SUV humping the rear end of a bike.

He was riding to close…and then he HIT the other bike.

No one knows what the fuck the SUV driver said…and anyone thinking that he did NOTHING to provoke anyone is talking out of their ass.

What we do know is that the SUV hit the bike first.[/quote]

Please answer the question… Does the above justify slashing his tires and pounding the side of his car in with a 2-YEAR OLD inside?

Or maybe the biker should exchanged insurance info with the driver, or got his license plate# and reported him to the police for hitting his bike like any good citizen would.[/quote]

BUllshit. He hit a guy and didn’t stop, he drove off. They tried to stop him, succeeded and then he ran some innocent guys over, and drove off. Finally they manage to stop him, and give him a beating so he can’t drive off again.

Who gives a fuck if he has a tribe of hungry 2 year olds in the car, he still caused an accident, still drove off, still ran over more guys, and still fled the scene.

The driver is an arsehole of highest order, and should be charged with attempted murder.

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

A. Your true motivation for creating the thread rears its ugly head. You just can’t help it as you are the Overfiend.

… and sue me for referring to you as the Overfiend. It worked out so well for you when you were accused of being a nanny. [/quote]

In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

gee and i thought i was just posting a story everyone was talking about around the water cooler

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All I can say is I would be highly pissed and would get off my bike and approach a driver if THEY FUCKING HIT ME IN THE BACK OF MY BIKE WHILE DRIVING.

Call me crazy.

if that person then runs off and hits other bikes and people…don’t you fault that guy?[/quote]
Pretty much. The car driver was 100% to blame for this incident.

He ran into the back of another car = at fault situation.
He then ran over multiple other people = his fault.
He got his arse handed to him = well deserved arse kicking.[/quote]

So someone who is driving with a lot of other illegal riders, whom likely have no license … insurance… and some are even riding illegal vehicles
Not to mention in other videos where they are driving on sidewalks weaving around pedestrians causing a scene
The NYPD know who this group is and have has issues with them many times

One person from this group jumps in front of your vehicle and slams on the brakes on purpose, they get hit as a result and the other driver is to blame?

I am glad you are not a judge, your opinion makes no sense.
Law is law regarding someone hitting someone from behind, but it doesn’t hold true in this case where someone was deliberately targeted.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
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???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
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It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
the first thing that happens is the SUV humping the rear end of a bike.

He was riding to close…and then he HIT the other bike.

No one knows what the fuck the SUV driver said…and anyone thinking that he did NOTHING to provoke anyone is talking out of their ass.

What we do know is that the SUV hit the bike first.[/quote]

Please answer the question… Does the above justify slashing his tires and pounding the side of his car in with a 2-YEAR OLD inside?

Or maybe the biker should exchanged insurance info with the driver, or got his license plate# and reported him to the police for hitting his bike like any good citizen would.[/quote]

BUllshit. He hit a guy and didn’t stop, he drove off. They tried to stop him, succeeded and then he ran some innocent guys over, and drove off. Finally they manage to stop him, and give him a beating so he can’t drive off again.

Who gives a fuck if he has a tribe of hungry 2 year olds in the car, he still caused an accident, still drove off, still ran over more guys, and still fled the scene.

The driver is an arsehole of highest order, and should be charged with attempted murder.
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troll?

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
[/quote]

???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
[/quote]

It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.[/quote]

The person who caused the accident is the one driving extremely recklessly as the NYPD knows that they do on numerous occasions and then tries to intimidate the SUV driver. His own fault for being a dick.

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
The only thing I would have done differently than him, was when they first started coming at my car, I would have taken off and if they pursued I would have taken as many of them out as possible. Finally if they ever got me to stop the fucker that broke out my window would have had his skull turned into a gravy boat with a .45 between the eyes.[/quote]

…and that is the problem.

I would have slowed the fuck down and let them pass…thus ending any and all threat and not putting my daughter’s life at risk.

Your way still ends with people dying and/or getting hurt.

Tip: if you see 50 bikes in a group headed your way, DON’T FUCKING RIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM or slow down and let them pass.

End of fucking story.

You can argue about who had the right of way all day at home.[/quote]

And you are right about one thing, my way does end with lots of people getting hurt. My family and I are not those people so I have achieved my goal.[/quote]

I’d be willing to bet you only have a clip or two with you. 50+ bikers sees you killing maybe 20, and then the rest of them tapdancing on your fucking skull in retaliation.

[quote]xcintrik wrote:

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
All I can say is I would be highly pissed and would get off my bike and approach a driver if THEY FUCKING HIT ME IN THE BACK OF MY BIKE WHILE DRIVING.

Call me crazy.

if that person then runs off and hits other bikes and people…don’t you fault that guy?[/quote]
Pretty much. The car driver was 100% to blame for this incident.

He ran into the back of another car = at fault situation.
He then ran over multiple other people = his fault.
He got his arse handed to him = well deserved arse kicking.[/quote]

So someone who is driving with a lot of other illegal riders, whom likely have no license … insurance… and some are even riding illegal vehicles
Not to mention in other videos where they are driving on sidewalks weaving around pedestrians causing a scene
The NYPD know who this group is and have has issues with them many times

One person from this group jumps in front of your vehicle and slams on the brakes on purpose, they get hit as a result and the other driver is to blame?

I am glad you are not a judge, your opinion makes no sense.
Law is law regarding someone hitting someone from behind, but it doesn’t hold true in this case where someone was deliberately targeted.[/quote]

Yes it does. It shows quite simply, with no other possible interpretation that the driver did no leave sufficient room between themselves and the vehicle in front to avoid an accident.

If the contact was front/rear, as opposed to on the side, showing an unsafe lane change or other maneuver, then it is very definitely the idiot in the car that is to blame.

For some reason people panic when there are bikes around them, and just don’t seem able to give them enough space for safetly. They stop, turn and accelerate much faster than a car in most cases, but car drivers just don’t get it. They don’t look.

SO many times have I almost been killed by inattentive idiots in steel boxes, in clearly visible spots that when someone makes an attempt on your life, either inadvertently or intentionally, you definitely need to do something about it.

Hit and run, which is what the arseclown in the car has done, is a crime, far worse than an almost non-event rear ender. If he had have stopped there, I seriously doubt that anything at all would have happened afterwards.

It wasn’t the accident that stirred these guys up, but the attitude that if you hit a bike it doesn’t matter and you can freely ride off.

[quote]xcintrik wrote:

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
[/quote]

???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
[/quote]

It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.[/quote]

The person who caused the accident is the one driving extremely recklessly as the NYPD knows that they do on numerous occasions and then tries to intimidate the SUV driver. His own fault for being a dick.[/quote]

Arguably, but the hit and run thing is what gets the crowd fired up.

THat is the truly horrible act in this scene.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
[/quote]

???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
[/quote]

It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.[/quote]

Again, the police, who are presumably going off of the same tape we all are, seem to disagree that what the driver of the motorcycle in the initial accident did was legal, seeing as the driver of that bike is being charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, and endangering the welfare of a child. But hey, fuck da police right?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

…and that is the problem.

I would have slowed the fuck down and let them pass…thus ending any and all threat and not putting my daughter’s life at risk.

Your way still ends with people dying and/or getting hurt.

Tip: if you see 50 bikes in a group headed your way, DON’T FUCKING RIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM or slow down and let them pass.

End of fucking story.

You can argue about who had the right of way all day at home.[/quote]

Considering the other liveleak videos where they go around messing with people for no reason they could have done this to anyone for whatever reason. They are already breaking the law riding unlicensed vehicles, they are also know to run from the NYPD. You are telling me just because they are likely to intimidate due to being in a group he should tuck his dick between his legs and get out of the way?

They shouldn’t have been a dick to him and kept on going past him, instead THEY decided to ride around him and in the process got screwed in the process.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]xcintrik wrote:

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
[/quote]

???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
[/quote]

It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.[/quote]

The person who caused the accident is the one driving extremely recklessly as the NYPD knows that they do on numerous occasions and then tries to intimidate the SUV driver. His own fault for being a dick.[/quote]

Arguably, but the hit and run thing is what gets the crowd fired up.

THat is the truly horrible act in this scene.[/quote]

It’s not really a hit and run. He stopped after the initial accident. It was only after he and his family were threatened and their vehicle attacked that he fled and, here again, the officer’s are on his side up to this point as he has not been charged.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

Yes it does. It shows quite simply, with no other possible interpretation that the driver did no leave sufficient room between themselves and the vehicle in front to avoid an accident.

If the contact was front/rear, as opposed to on the side, showing an unsafe lane change or other maneuver, then it is very definitely the idiot in the car that is to blame.

[/quote]

It is funny that the police do not agree with you… if you have had to deal with this group of bikers before you wouldn’t either.
So if someone on the interstate puts a car in reverse and it gets hit by an oncoming car then the oncoming car is at fault because he hit the rear of the other car?

If a bike jumps in front of you and slows down for no reason how the hell are you supposed to stop faster than a bike?

the law is not as black and white as you claim

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]xcintrik wrote:

[quote]cryogen wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

All I know is that the bikers by all accounts, started the physical altercation (regardless of what was said) by slashing tires and beating on the car with helmets. If I have my two year old and wife in the car, I am fleeing that scene as well. [/quote]

???

He HIT THE OTHER BIKE first.[/quote]

The biker cut him off an brake checked him.
[/quote]

???

I ride bikes. The driver of the bike didn’t do shit but get in front of him. That is LEGAL.

Hitting the car in front of you is NOT… if you run away afterwards and run over bikes and people.

You shouldn’t be that fucking close to the bikes in the first place.[/quote]

You think it is perfectly legal to cut someone off and stop? Good luck with that.

Next on tonight’s evening news, large man stuck in the wheelwell of SUV.
[/quote]

It is legal, IT is NOT legal to cause an accident by running into the rear of another person’s vehicle. There is only one person at fault when that happens, the driver of the car that ran into the car/bike/vehicle in front.[/quote]

The person who caused the accident is the one driving extremely recklessly as the NYPD knows that they do on numerous occasions and then tries to intimidate the SUV driver. His own fault for being a dick.[/quote]

Arguably, but the hit and run thing is what gets the crowd fired up.

THat is the truly horrible act in this scene.[/quote]

It’s not really a hit and run. He stopped after the initial accident. It was only after he and his family were threatened and their vehicle attacked that he fled and, here again, the officer’s are on his side up to this point as he has not been charged. [/quote]

To exchange insurance and license details, you need to get off a bike and approach a car.

The cops are on his (the drivers) side because the other group ride bikes, and are therefore guilty of whatever crime they wish to attribute to them.

[quote]cryogen wrote:
SO many times have I almost been killed by inattentive idiots in steel boxes

[/quote]

Perhaps you may need to reevaluate your own driving habits.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

To exchange insurance and license details, you need to get off a bike and approach a car.

The cops are on his side because they ride bikes, and are therefore guilty of whatever crime they wish to attribute to them. [/quote]

Difficult to do with a mob attacking your vehicle, but I sense you are being deliberately obtuse.

[quote]cryogen wrote:

To exchange insurance and license details, you need to get off a bike and approach a car.

The cops are on his side because they ride bikes, and are therefore guilty of whatever crime they wish to attribute to them. [/quote]

Most of these guys are riding illegally without insurance or licenses, lol pointless argument here
Cops are on the side of whom was driving in a legal manner

Blows my mind that there’s people defending this lawless pack of feral bikers. I would’ve done the same thing as the SUV driver, except that I wouldn’t have stopped unless I was in front of a police station. My wife would’ve been on the phone with 911, and my weapon would be in my hand. I would’ve been scared as shit for the safety of my family, which means I’d be more than capable of killing in their defense. As soon as that window was busted, he would’ve been dead as disco.

There’s a shit ton of bikers in this world who are the most generous, kind, accepting, and helpful people you’d ever meet. BUT, there’s also a shit ton of assholes on two wheels who get kicks out of riding in packs fucking with random cars.

There’s just ZERO defense for what those bikers did. No fucking defense. At all.

[quote]cryogen wrote:
Yes it does. It shows quite simply, with no other possible interpretation that the driver did no leave sufficient room between themselves and the vehicle in front to avoid an accident.

If the contact was front/rear, as opposed to on the side, showing an unsafe lane change or other maneuver, then it is very definitely the idiot in the car that is to blame.

For some reason people panic when there are bikes around them, and just don’t seem able to give them enough space for safetly. They stop, turn and accelerate much faster than a car in most cases, but car drivers just don’t get it. They don’t look.[/quote]

I have to ask you this. How is he supposed to leave sufficient space between him and the bike when the bike shifts into his lane not less than a few feet away from him to begin with? And then the bike brakes as well.

It’s like a pedestrian stepping into traffic going at 60 kph then blaming the driver when he gets sent flying.