As if that were not enough, he then went on to a successful career in mountaineering. The man climbed Mount Everest…something few mountain climbers can claim, never mind regular Joe’s.
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Not to cast aspersions on Bear’s accomplishments, but Everest is only a grade III climb – the toughest part is the Khumbu icefall, which is usually littered with ladders and ropes. Plenty of slightly above average Joes have in fact climbed Everest, which is considered one of the “easier” 8000 meter peaks. If he had climbed, say, the Rupal face of Nanga Parbat in true alpine style (like Reinhold Messner), then I would be impressed.
(No, I have not climbed Everest, nor do I want to. Say what you will, but a sucessful ascent of Everest has been significantly devalued in the last couple decades).
I watch Man vs. Wild to see what crazy sh*t Bear is going to do and to be entertained. I watch Survivorman to hopefully learn a thing or two about what to do in a REAL survival situation.
Bear does not have help he is 100% fake I hate that mother fucking phony disney con artist. He has shot remote areas in state and national parks. He was attacked by a man in a bear costume. When he hunts and kills a rabit it was not native to the area they brought it with him. Research it the entire thing is staged.
[quote]AshyLarry wrote:
My thinking is that even though Bear has a crew, he is the one still jumping into frozen lakes… In one episode he used a vine as a rope and started down a waterfall.
The rope broke and he fell. The crew can’t do shit in that situation. Also, one time he crossed over a river on a fallen tree that was spanning to both sides. It was slippery and shitty looking. He went for it, if he fell he was dead, or hurt badly.
The crew can’t do anything there either. So sure, he can take bigger risks because of the crew, but I’m not going to jump off my roof just because my fiends are there watching. [/quote]
Most likely fake he wears hidden harnesses and life vests often.
Also to the person who said bear is upbeat and talked about haveing an upbeat attitude are you serisouse. Have you ever tried ACTUALLY living in the wild alone with small amounts of equipment while filming it all YOURSELF. I can’t beleive you called Les Straud whiny. What have you done that is nearly as tough as that?
Would you prefer an instructor who shows you how to lift weights with proper form, stretch properly and get good nutrition, or someone who throws the weights around grunting and screaming, does bouncing stretches and eats 2lb steaks all day?
[quote]keflex wrote:
Would you prefer an instructor who shows you how to lift weights with proper form, stretch properly and get good nutrition, or someone who throws the weights around grunting and screaming, does bouncing stretches and eats 2lb steaks all day?
[quote]Split wrote:
keflex wrote:
Would you prefer an instructor who shows you how to lift weights with proper form, stretch properly and get good nutrition, or someone who throws the weights around grunting and screaming, does bouncing stretches and eats 2lb steaks all day?
[quote]ctschneider wrote:
Split wrote:
keflex wrote:
Would you prefer an instructor who shows you how to lift weights with proper form, stretch properly and get good nutrition, or someone who throws the weights around grunting and screaming, does bouncing stretches and eats 2lb steaks all day?
Yeah, it’s kind of like that.
great post.
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except…
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Now could Les do that if he wanted to? Sure, but he doesn’t. He is too principled to do that and that would take the fun out of all the physical stress, mental anguish, unbearable loneliness, near insanity, and oh yeah, REAL ADVENTURE.
Now, why don’t you go rub one out to Bear’s resume.
Actually, I got a better idea…why don’t I rub one out on your mom’s face while you’re downstairs in the basement, watching re-runs of Survivorman and having “REAL ADVENTURE” with your Dungeons and Dragons buddies?
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
Now could Les do that if he wanted to? Sure, but he doesn’t. He is too principled to do that and that would take the fun out of all the physical stress, mental anguish, unbearable loneliness, near insanity, and oh yeah, REAL ADVENTURE.
Now, why don’t you go rub one out to Bear’s resume.
Actually, I got a better idea…why don’t I rub one out on your mom’s face while you’re downstairs in the basement, watching re-runs of Survivorman and having “REAL ADVENTURE” with your Dungeons and Dragons buddies?[/quote]
You are obviously 14 years old. I don’t know if its just your dumbness or your laziness, but you decided to plagiarize my “rub one out” insult/joke. Ok fine. But then you went ahead and reverted to the quintessential 14 year old comeback and opted for the “your mom” joke. Just a reminder to you, I’m desensitized to that one by now.
You are a clever one, though. You really are. Now that you’ve established yourself as Captain Cliche - you decided to re-affirm yourself by going with the Dungeons and Dragons joke. Come on bro. Come with something better than that. I don’t play dungeons and dragons man. I don’t really even know what that is, but you sure seem to.
You are on Bear Grylls’ nuts. Which is fine. Shit, I’m on Les Stroud’s nuts. But I’ll tell you what dude. While steam was shooting out of your ears like a jetstream because you were so profoundly affected by my post, I read your post and laughed.
You clearly have NO idea what it means to have been in the British SAS. None whatsoever.
Nor do you have any appreciation for the fact that he brokehisback in a parachuting accident when he was training with the SAS, and AFTER that, recovered and climbed Mt. Everest (youngest Brit ever to do so).
Yes, he takes unnecessary risks on the show to make it more interesting, and to show you how to handle certain terrain if you had no other choice. That doesn’t mean he’d take unnecessary risks in a real survival situation. Clearly he wouldn’t.
Read up on what the SAS selection course (and subsequent training) is like.
[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Les Stroud would kick Bear Grylls’ ass. He would straight up whoop his ass.
Bear is a fraud, with a gaudy background and good climbing skills.
Les is a true survivor. Les will go out into the middle of the Kalahari, where its a 120 degrees, starve with no food and water, sit under a tree the whole time, and find a way to survive. The guy is constantly starving himself for days on end. He puts himself through real mental/physical stress. There are no hotels, or Mars bars, or throwing a rock at a rabbit from 50 feet away and somehow miraculously killing that rabbit. But there is Les spending 6 hours trying to start a fire. Or him spending another 9 hours trying to catch a fish… and failing at it.
If you were lost in the middle of nowhere, who would you rather have with you to survive? Les, EASILY.
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Bears show is a sensationalized production. If someone took as much risk for no gain and expended as much energy for no reason as he does in a real scenario, they would be dead, plain and simple.
Les demonstrates actual techniques in real situations, and if you do what he does, you will more than likely survive.
Depends on what you are into realy. For content, I like Survivorman, but for ridiculous self indulgence, I just go out on my own and climb rocks to nowhere, eat wild berries and mushrooms, catch fish, and sleep in a tent.
The reality of things is never as glamorous as it seems on T.V. That is one of Les’s strong points.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I like when he starts to go crazy after a couple days of not eating and being alone.
“Brother Raven!”[/quote]
Me too. I wonder how much he edits though. There has to be some stuff that he takes out once his head clears.
After a couple of days without food and being harassed by squirrels, I could see myself saying and doing some shit that wouldn’t be suitable for broadcast.
Sir, I’m gonna need you to calm down. Its just a show.
[quote]Damici wrote:
You clearly have NO idea what it means to have been in the British SAS. None whatsoever.
Nor do you have any appreciation for the fact that he brokehisback in a parachuting accident when he was training with the SAS, and AFTER that, recovered and climbed Mt. Everest (youngest Brit ever to do so).
Yes, he takes unnecessary risks on the show to make it more interesting, and to show you how to handle certain terrain if you had no other choice. That doesn’t mean he’d take unnecessary risks in a real survival situation. Clearly he wouldn’t.
Read up on what the SAS selection course (and subsequent training) is like.
DeterminedNate wrote:
Les Stroud would kick Bear Grylls’ ass. He would straight up whoop his ass.
Bear is a fraud, with a gaudy background and good climbing skills.
Les is a true survivor. Les will go out into the middle of the Kalahari, where its a 120 degrees, starve with no food and water, sit under a tree the whole time, and find a way to survive. The guy is constantly starving himself for days on end. He puts himself through real mental/physical stress. There are no hotels, or Mars bars, or throwing a rock at a rabbit from 50 feet away and somehow miraculously killing that rabbit. But there is Les spending 6 hours trying to start a fire. Or him spending another 9 hours trying to catch a fish… and failing at it.
If you were lost in the middle of nowhere, who would you rather have with you to survive? Les, EASILY.
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I love both shows for different reasons. As said, Bear’s is entertainment whereas Les’ is more practical.
I had heard about Bear’s SAS experience which, as mentioned, pretty much proves that he is a bad-ass. I remember hearing that he once took a hang-glider over the Himalayas to 30000 feet. That is absolutely insane.
Ever notice though that Bear ALWAYS sounds out of breath as he speaks, even as he’s resting? “I…just love…finding…avocado trees…they’re…full of…healthy fat…and…calories”. Does he have asthma or something?
Bear is a veteran of the British SAS. That has never been called into question. There are no better soldiers in the world. (And that includes our over-glorified Navy SEALS, who every teenager on here has a homo fetish for.) Bear has gone through, arguably, the toughest selection process in the world to become a member of that regiment. He has nothing to prove to me, you guys, or anyone else. His “toughness” is not in question.
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Suggest you find out the opinion of a genuine military hard man; Micheal Ryan - the guy who wrote Bravo 2 Zero, about the British special forces team that got trapped behind Iraqui lines during the gulf war.
His opinion of Bear and whether he was in the SAS or not, is pretty blunt. He is adamant that bear is a fraud.
I like Bears show for entertainment, but that’s about all it is. Les has authenticity-a-plenty. You can see how he pushes his body, even in the face of no food. No wonder he’s not as athletic as bear; he regularly starves himself for days at a time.
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I believe Michael Ryan is the most hated man in the British Military for those books, and yes i have read them all.