I’ve only seen and heard of Survivorman, so it’s a better show.
Les kicks ass, AND plays the harmonica.
[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Craig vs. Wild!
Haha that’s on par with Tourettes Guy.
You people assume Man Vs. Wild is a survival show. It’s not. It’s “Bear Grylls Badass Hour”. As others have mentioned bear has support, but he’s still climbing the fucking mountain, and jumping in the frozen lake, and whatnot. Les is boring. The real question is, who would survive better/longer in the wild for real?
And, as T-Nationers, Bear is in much better shape than less.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
And, as T-Nationers, Bear is in much better shape than less.[/quote]
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Who would survive longer in a real situation? Les Stroud…
Why?
Because he doesn’t needlessly climb things and jump into frozen lakes.
I saw an episode of Man V Wild in some Canyon land or something out West. Instead of say, walking up the obviously gently sloped side of the canyon to the other side, he climbs over slippery rocks and swims through some ridiculously long underground stream (when I say ridiculous, I mean quite literally an impossible swim"
It’s pointless and is all about making Bear look like a Great Outdoors Super Hero, meanwhile you can clearly see life jackets underneath his clothes sometimes.
I can say this for sure. Not one contestant on the Survivor series has ever watch the survivorman.
I love that show. The knowledge I have gained watching it. Pretty much makes it impossible for me to not survive any outdoor situation. Les has added volumes of knowledge to my survivor skills.
Now I want to go backpacking! Break out the compass and altimeter, I go prepared and hope for the best! It’s great having the knowledge, but I wouldn’t really want to be in one of those situation.
There really is a major difference between the two shows. Man vs Wild isn’t a survivor show as it is how to battle the wild. Survivorman is about surviving a given situation. One is more for entertainment the latter more for knowledge. Although both have cool thinks to learn.
For entertainment, bear wins hands down.
Surviorman is the real deal. As tough as Bear is his show is about as real as any other slick hollywood prodcution.
[quote]idalux wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
And, as T-Nationers, Bear is in much better shape than less.
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Bear is 14 years younger.
Les Stroud would kick Bear Grylls’ ass. He would straight up whoop his ass.
Bear is a fraud, with a gaudy background and good climbing skills.
Les is a true survivor. Les will go out into the middle of the Kalahari, where its a 120 degrees, starve with no food and water, sit under a tree the whole time, and find a way to survive. The guy is constantly starving himself for days on end. He puts himself through real mental/physical stress. There are no hotels, or Mars bars, or throwing a rock at a rabbit from 50 feet away and somehow miraculously killing that rabbit. But there is Les spending 6 hours trying to start a fire. Or him spending another 9 hours trying to catch a fish… and failing at it.
If you were lost in the middle of nowhere, who would you rather have with you to survive? Les, EASILY.
[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Les Stroud would kick Bear Grylls’ ass. He would straight up whoop his ass.
Bear is a fraud, with a gaudy background and good climbing skills.
Les is a true survivor. Les will go out into the middle of the Kalahari, where its a 120 degrees, starve with no food and water, sit under a tree the whole time, and find a way to survive. The guy is constantly starving himself for days on end. He puts himself through real mental/physical stress. There are no hotels, or Mars bars, or throwing a rock at a rabbit from 50 feet away and somehow miraculously killing that rabbit. But there is Les spending 6 hours trying to start a fire. Or him spending another 9 hours trying to catch a fish… and failing at it.
If you were lost in the middle of nowhere, who would you rather have with you to survive? Les, EASILY.
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The only reason I would take Les instead of Bear is because Bear eats everything raw and does crazy stuff that I would never do. Les is more realistic, in my opinion anyway.
[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
idalux wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
And, as T-Nationers, Bear is in much better shape than less.
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Bear is 14 years younger.[/quote]
So that’s an excuse now?
Survivorman. Hands down.
Being in shape is less important than mental fortitude.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Dirty Tiger wrote:
idalux wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
And, as T-Nationers, Bear is in much better shape than less.
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Bear is 14 years younger.
So that’s an excuse now? [/quote]
Les is almost 50, he’s in good shape.
Say what?!?! Anyone one here who thinks Les is going to kick Bear’s ass is an absolute friggin retard. Allow me to make my case.
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Bear is a veteran of the British SAS. That has never been called into question. There are no better soldiers in the world. (And that includes our over-glorified Navy SEALS, who every teenager on here has a homo fetish for.) Bear has gone through, arguably, the toughest selection process in the world to become a member of that regiment. He has nothing to prove to me, you guys, or anyone else. His “toughness” is not in question.
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As if that were not enough, he then went on to a successful career in mountaineering. The man climbed Mount Everest…something few mountain climbers can claim, never mind regular Joe’s.
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Is his show overly dramatic? Sure. Does he intentionally enter into situations that he could (and should) avoid in a REAL survival situation? Yes, he does. As a matter of fact, I have no doubt that in a REAL survival situation, he would sit and wait to be rescued…just like he was trained. However, the show is about ENTERTAINMENT.
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So the man stayed in hotels. Big freakin deal. There’s an old soldier’s maxim that goes, “You don’t need to practice being miserable.” There’s also a very fine line between “hard core” and stupid. Bear stays on the correct side of the line.
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I actually watch both shows, so I have nothing against Les. I just think the morons who are posting that Les would “kick Bear’s ass” are obviously retarded.
[quote]mapwhap wrote:
- So the man stayed in hotels. Big freakin deal. There’s an old soldier’s maxim that goes, “You don’t need to practice being miserable.” There’s also a very fine line between “hard core” and stupid. Bear stays on the correct side of the line.
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Actually, that IS a big freaking deal, because he tries to create the illusion of survival - except he’s staying in hotels, under the blankets, savoring chocolate bars. Which, in my eyes, would make him nothing more than a fraud.
Now could Les do that if he wanted to? Sure, but he doesn’t. He is too principled to do that and that would take the fun out of all the physical stress, mental anguish, unbearable loneliness, near insanity, and oh yeah, REAL ADVENTURE.
Now, why don’t you go rub one out to Bear’s resume.
[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
mapwhap wrote:
- So the man stayed in hotels. Big freakin deal. There’s an old soldier’s maxim that goes, “You don’t need to practice being miserable.” There’s also a very fine line between “hard core” and stupid. Bear stays on the correct side of the line.
Actually, that IS a big freaking deal, because he tries to create the illusion of survival - except he’s staying in hotels, under the blankets, savoring chocolate bars. Which, in my eyes, would make him nothing more than a fraud.
Now could Les do that if he wanted to? Sure, but he doesn’t. He is too principled to do that and that would take the fun out of all the physical stress, mental anguish, unbearable loneliness, near insanity, and oh yeah, REAL ADVENTURE.
Now, why don’t you go rub one out to Bear’s resume.
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Touche!
From the few times I’ve watched either, I like Bear’s show a little better. A little more entertaining. And, yes, as a former SAS he’s got nothing to prove IMO. Les is a badass in a survival way and I respect him as well.
I did see one Les episode where he was in the badlands of Africa and built a little shelter out of brush in the middle of thick ass Lion country. Spending the night with a miniscule barrier like that and no real weapon to speak of when you can hear lions prowling in the night air would be fucking scary! That man’s got balls.
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