Surge Pre-Workout Timing?

How long before I workout should I consume my half serving of Surge–1/2 hour, 15 minutes, right before?

Thanks,

Crowbar

I prefer to have mine immediately before training (ie within 5 minutes).

How long before your workout is your last solid meal? What do you eat?

Dave, I drink a whey protein shake with frozen berries blended in and 1/3 cup oats with 1 cup blue berries, two hours before my morning workout.

Crowbar

Your shake has 1/3 cup of oats??? And you’re drinking this 2 hrs. before your workout? So this shake has gotta be only like 400 calories? I recommend eating more food. Unless you weigh like 75 lbs.

Well I will give you what I have found to work best for me after a few months of toying with the timing and agreeing and disagreeing with Dave in numerous conversations on this and other topics. ( I mean this crazy canuck SWEARS by seal meat and sucrose for at least 3 meals a day)LOL

I also have around a 400 k/cal meal a few hours prior to my w/o. The 1/2 hour out a lsam 1/2 Surge, then as I walk in to start my w/o slam the other half. This seems to give me GREAT energy throughout the w/o and has coupled with some pretty good recovery.

When having the 1st 1/2 1 hour out I would have a blood sugar crash toward the end of my w/o and with the whole serving right before (with the amount of water I use) I was just to damn full for comfort.

Pair this up with another Surge right after or my personal choice of Simple puffed cereals (simple carbs) and Grow! or whey shake.

Thats my routine as of now. I say just experiment and find what and how different approaches effect you.

Hope that helps,
Phill

I made a one scoop serving of Surge and drank it right before my workout today. It seemed to work very well like that; it gave me good energy and strength levels throughout my workout.

Crowbar

From what I understand, Surge is best ingested between 15 min. before and right up to your warm-up routine.

Regarding the last pre-workout meal, I believe John Berardi has stated that Protein + Fat (low carb) meals are best, due to a blunted insulin effect, which may help to “prime” your metabolism as well.

There has been the suggestion to sip Surge during a workout to keep a steady flow of nutrients, but I’ve found that, with a bowl of oats and raisins and some Grow! for breakfast, and a workout 90 minutes later, I was often starting hungry.

So nowadays I mix up 1 scoop of Surge at the gym, drink about a third just before walking into the weight room, and drink the rest in 2-3 swigs in the breaks between body parts. It clearly helps keep me energized for the workout.

Filll, you may confuse people with your suggestion> Polar bear and seal meat are best after a workout, not before (which is the issue at hand).

[quote]Phill wrote:
Well I will give you what I have found to work best for me after a few months of toying with the timing and agreeing and disagreeing with Dave in numerous conversations on this and other topics. ( I mean this crazy canuck SWEARS by seal meat and sucrose for at least 3 meals a day)LOL

Phill[/quote]

Although I answered the original question on the Prime Time thread, there’s always more to say. LOL

Pure amino acids (which only need to be absorbed, not digested) consumed before exercise actually kept increasing blood aa levels for an hour after exercise. This suggests a delay in absorption due to exercise.

When hydrolysate is used, it’d be a good idea to give your GI a little more time to digest and absorb the aa’s. This is why drinking ~15 minutes prior to physical activity is a good idea.

Hey Dave:
If I am trying to cut up and not that concerned with maintaining muscle, but more concerned with recovery, is Surge better pre or post workout? I will be focusing on more cardio and lifting more for strength endurance. Basically, I just want to look really lean and don’t want to kill myself over losing a little muscle. However, I don’t want to injure myself or overtrain.

Fitfreak.

Im not Dave but I will give my take.

With your goal of losing BF, I would suggest the Surge after in order to refill depleted glycogen stop catabolism, etc.

Also though dont go into the w/o in a totally fasted state a meal prior by an hour or two in the form of P+F (like Daves Polar bear or sealmeat). This should allow you to hopefully burn some more fat during your w/o. Then get the benefit of the Surge after.

Just my opinion hope it helps,
Phill