Recommended:
Whey Protein
Multivitamin
EFAs
Optional:
ZMA
BCAAs
Creatine
But from your ham and steak reference, I think you should skip supplements and get in the weight room.
By the way, 1500 calories isn’t going to “cut” it (no pun intended!), you’re going to lose a lot of muscle.
[quote]liftforstars wrote:
Diet: Keep calories below 1500 every day… had about maybe 600 so far. Still maybe 11 hours till I sleep again.
Comments?[/quote]
Kiddo, I eat 1500 calories by 9:30 in the morning. You will not get any more muscular at 1500 calories a day.
Advice:
1 - Eat more. You will not gain by eating 1500 cal/day.
2 - Sleep more. Your body needs the rest to rebuild itself from…
3 - Workout harder. You think you workout hard now. [quote]I have my cables set up…[/quote]Get someone to take you to the gym, and pick up heavy things. Really.Heavy.Things.
4 - Go here:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=640350
Do that stuff.
5 - Less “I know what I’m doing”, more listening.
-folly
[quote]theuser101 wrote:
…i can squat 350 and can curl 145…
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No you can’t
im 17, and should i use Metabolic Drive, OR Metabolic Drive Complete, real confused on both.
really apreciate the help guys.
[quote]liftingforagoal wrote:
im 17, and should i use Metabolic Drive, OR Metabolic Drive Complete, real confused on both.
really apreciate the help guys.[/quote]
First, make sure you are eating right. If you can’t get enough food, then you look a t protein powders. As for which one, it depends on your carb intake. At 17, I’d say go with Metabolic Drive Complete.
I am assuming that you actually work out?
-folly
What the hell? Is 17 the new age to ask for the “new suppzz to gt hYOOOGEEE, LoLz!”?
hows this:
(Surge)
! Three hours later !
MEALS
(three hours in-between)
if it looks like its still too low on calories to gain muscle, yet still lose body fat, what healthy stuff could I add to get the minimum calorie intake to get muscle?
You can drop some body fat while gaining lean mass. Try this 24 x by you body weight. Eat that much, then when you get more experience learn better nutrition. You don’t need anything advanced right now. An above poster gave jb nutrition idea’s. Follow those.
If you can’t afford Surge- go to your bulk store (whatever its called where you are) and buy dextose (corn sugar). Its dirt cheap. Next buy some fast digesting whey. Something like AST VP2, allmax isoflex or Biotest’s new whey. Mix one scoop of whey to one scoop of dextorse (scopper from the whey) that should give you about 310-320 cals. Drink one during and one after workout.
On workout days subtract your workout nutrition from your daily cals. Meaning take a snack out(with the same calorie content).For exmaple on non workout days I consume 4300 cals through six meals. On workout days I consume the same amount through 5 meals and two workout shakes.
Every two weeks evaluate yourself. If you want more muscle add 250 cals. If you gained to much fat stay at the same calorie number.
And keep cardio as far removed form your weights as possible. Not before or after weights.
[quote]4est wrote:
theuser101 wrote:
Ya im 17 years old im about 5’9 5’10 and weight about 143 im already priddy stong i can bench 185 i can squat 350 and can curl 145 however all that and im still 143 is there any supplement that can boost me up somewhere around 155 before school starts again in 40 days???thanks
ONLY THE FORK
[/quote]
I’d throw in an occassional Spork here and there. Good to cycle it with the standard Fork.
[quote]TDog305 wrote:
theuser101 wrote:
…i can squat 350 and can curl 145…
No you can’t[/quote]
My first reaction also. I’m usually one of the more optimistic people on this board and willing to give most people the benefit of the doubt when they make somewhat doubtful claims…but there is NO WAY anyone is curling their bodyweight with good form. Give me a break.
[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
[/quote]
Your avatar makes me feel kinda’ funny. Like when we used to climb the ropes in gym class.
/hijack
[quote]liftforstars wrote:
hows this:
(Surge)
! Three hours later !
MEALS
(three hours in-between)
How about this:
Wake up - 2 scoops MD with 1/2c dry oats in water. Chewy, but it will get you through your workout.
PW - Surge
1 hour later - 3 egg omelete w/2 oz ham, mushrooms, green pepper, cheese; fat free yogurt; 1 fruit; 1c oats
Main meals - 6 oz beef or chicken(or 8oz fish or turkey), 1c veg (broccoli, mixed, etc), 1/2 sweet potato or 1c brown rice, 1tbsp EVOO, 1 fruit. Using soy sauce, peanut sauce, salsa, low carb bbq sauce (no HFCS), worchestershire, etc can privide lots and lots of variety.
Have two more main meals and two snacks of 2scoops MD and a handful of almonds or walnuts.
That is a good start.
Yes, this is more calories than you want, and you will probably lose sight of your abs for a while, but if you really bust ass in the gym, you will make great progress. You are 17, and have more test running through your veins than Anthony Roberts(well, maybe not that much). If you are going to waste it playing games, then donate it to someone else(pick me!).
At any rate, if you want to gain, sometimes you have to put on a little fat. You don’t need supplements(keep the multi, though) because your body is primed to grow already. The running you already do will help prevent most of the fat gain. But if you don’t start eating, the running will waste you away.
See, it isn’t that difficult. Eat well, sleep well, and pick up heavy stuff.
If you want any tips or tricks to make it easier, PM me.
-folly
[quote]LevelHeaded wrote:
I’d throw in an occassional Spork here and there. Good to cycle it with the standard Fork.[/quote]
Does taco bell still have sporks? This kid could use two number 7’s and a grilled stuffed burrito once or twice a week.
1500 cals a day?
If you’re doing anything besides breathing every day, you’re going to be burning your body’s tissues’ – most likely including muscle.
I’m 23, and I’m currently lifting to build some mass and lose fat. I lift 4 times a week, and run/cycle on my off days.
I consume between 3000 and 4000 calories per day, and in the last month I’ve put on 8-10 pounds of muscle, I haven’t gotten my fat percentage measured, but I can see my abs are starting to show a lot more, so my gut is disappearing.
Of course, I could probably build muscle faster, or lose fat faster, but I’m satisfied for now with this approach.
Nutritionally speaking I’m keeping the carbs rather low, except around exercises.
I’m 209 pounds and 188cm (don’t know that height in inches, sorry) and I’m eating in excess of 200g per day of protein, usually one rather meaty meal, chicken or beef, a protein bar (I like Oh Yeah! from ISS either in the morning, or about an hour before workout), skyr (an icelandic dairy product high in protein, and low in carbs/fat, look it up on wikipedia), 1-2 whey protein shakes, and some peanuts and cheese for snacks.
Also I take, now ecogreen multivits, about 3g of CLA per day, as well as 2.75g of cod liver oil, and 2-4 caps of omega-3 forte.
I’m just experimenting and still trying to find out a good balance between workouts, nutrition, carbs, protein, fat.
I’ve read about Flameout here on T-Nation, and I’d suggest that supplement at least for you, but other than that, don’t be an idiot, listen to the experienced people here, and eatmore*.
At least keep your caloric intake above 2500 calories per day, if you’re working out you’ll still lose fat, but unlike the 1500 cal per day diet, you’re less likely to screw up your metabolism.
Heres my diet:
-Grilled chicken
-Regular baked chicken
-Carrots
-Green apples
-Small red cherry grapes (seedless I think)
5 MEALS
1550 Calories
163g Carbs
96g Protein
19g Fat
I need the calories to go up. I need the protein to go up. The carbs can’t go too much higher. The Fat is just about right.
Any ways to get the calories and protein up while keep the carbs and fat the same or just tiny bit higher?
A simple way would be to just start gushing down a couple of whey protein shakes per day.
If you get just pure whey protein powder, with some flavour like vanilla, you should be getting about 80-100g of extra protein per day out of 2 shakes (4 scoops), and no more than 8-15 extra grams of carbs.
But don’t be so afraid of fat, at least not the essential fatty acids, such as the ones you get in Flameout.
Of course, rather than spend extra money on supplements, you could start eating more, eating some fish would help, maybe even sushi if you want more carbs? (I’m not an expert on carbs, I try and keep them low).
I’m gonna try to get that stuff. I really need it. My mom is really against it because she thinks its steriods. I keep telling her it just a shake. I guess older folk don’t understand much.
(Better rephrase that, every time I single out a group, someone on here gets on my case. oh well)
Is it normal to get stomach aches when eating 4-5 times a day?
[quote]liftforstars wrote:
I’m gonna try to get that stuff. I really need it. My mom is really against it because she thinks its steriods. I keep telling her it just a shake. I guess older folk don’t understand much.[/quote]
And neither do 17 y/o’s…
eat some damn fat…it’ll do you some good…Why do you think so many diets encourage low carbs and high fat? bodyopus, Gironda’s definition diets, T-Dawg, Anabolic Diet etcetc