Is it possible to superset these 2 exercises? Does it involves to much of the same muscle groups and make it difficult to accomplish while training for strenght?
Thanks.
the whole point of supersets is to put exercises that work mainly the same muscle group…the first set of one exercise serves as pre-exhaustion for the next one. you can superset anything you want, but thats usually how it goes, so dont worry about supersetting the same muscle group, cause thats what your supposed to be doing
Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with your definition of supersetting. Supersetting implies little to no rest between exercises and are typically set up for agonist/antagonist pairings of exercises. Pre-exhaustion would imply your are going to target a specific muscle group which is invloved in a coumpound exercise, say chest flyes before bench press. Not a great way to build strength.
Usually in terms of strength training the fresher you are at the begining of the next set the better. 2-3 minute rest periods would be good. You could even alternate between exercises with 2 minutes between each. That way you’ll be plenty rested for the next movement.
I also think pull ups or chin up would be a better movement paired with shoulder presses.
[quote]ZachDelDesert wrote:
the whole point of supersets is to put exercises that work mainly the same muscle group…the first set of one exercise serves as pre-exhaustion for the next one. you can superset anything you want, but thats usually how it goes, so dont worry about supersetting the same muscle group, cause thats what your supposed to be doing[/quote]
Actually, the point of supersetting is to work opposing muscle groups, e.g. chest and back. You may be thinking of compound sets - 2 or more exercises that work the same muscle group, e.g. barbell curl and incline dumbell curl.
With that being said, you are correct with respect to not worrying about pairing up on these 2 exercises.
Pre-exhaustion is one reason to do supersets but is not even close to the “whole point” of doing them. That’s more of a pure bodybuilding technique, and I challenge you to find more than one or two lifting programs by any of the coaches on this site emphasizing a technique like pre-exhaustion. More often they are used as antagonist pairings.
Overhead presses and rows would work fine as a superset, but overhead presses with pullups or benches with rows might work a little better for you. I assume you want to superset to be able to either a)cut your workout time down or b)keep your heart rate up. Generally, opposite movements in the same plane of motion (i.e., horizontal or vertical) work best.
Actually you are both right. LOL It is simply doing two damn excercises. as a set. or in unison of sorts.
Many of CW’s programs use antagonist, as does EDT. like a push and a pull. Ex military and chins.
Then stuff like CT’s Volume training you do two of one muscle group in a pre exhaust. Like barbell bench then immediate flys.
So both are right. Depends on the program.
Go for it
Hope that helps,
Phill
Yeah, Everybody’s right. Supersets are just two exersize sets performed in sequence with no rest between them. There are many ways but like most T-maggers I like the antagonist approach. I do upper body vertical (i.e. pull-ups/overhead presses) on one day, then upper body horizontal (i.e. bench/rows) on another. The main advantage of this scheme is that you are always stretching out the muscle you will be working on the next set. It really seems to help. My problem with it as a 43 year old natural is overtraining. Sometimes you get on a roll and just overdo it. I try to mix it up and change my routine every few weeks to avoid stagnation but I must admit, supersetting manages to sneek into almost every workout. It just does a body good!
Supersets are for two different exercises/bodyparts.
Compound sets are two exercises for the same bodypart.
Giant sets are three or more exercises for the same bodypart or different bodyparts.
All can be utilized with or without rest in between.
… and although these definitions have been well explained above, the reason why hasn’t, so much.
The reason agonist/antagonist exercises are often supersetted is that this seems to have a synergistic effect on the growth of both sets of muscles.
[quote]bigrondog wrote:
ZachDelDesert wrote:
the whole point of supersets is to put exercises that work mainly the same muscle group…the first set of one exercise serves as pre-exhaustion for the next one. you can superset anything you want, but thats usually how it goes, so dont worry about supersetting the same muscle group, cause thats what your supposed to be doing
Actually, the point of supersetting is to work opposing muscle groups, e.g. chest and back. You may be thinking of compound sets - 2 or more exercises that work the same muscle group, e.g. barbell curl and incline dumbell curl.
With that being said, you are correct with respect to not worrying about pairing up on these 2 exercises.[/quote]
AGREED!!!