Kick-ass thread. Two things going through my mind as I was reading:
I too think it would have been cool to see a different costume for this new Superman. I was always fond of the black costume with the silver S. That looks pretty bad-ass and well-updated for the new millenium. But seeing as how he wore that amid the whole death and revival storyline, just seeing that costume (even if they didn’t include the “Superman dies” storyline) probably would have pissed a whole lot of people off, namely the fanboys.
As one person said about many actors willing to go to extreme levels of leanness for a role (Bale in Machinist and Matt Damon in Courage Under Fire; Damon even had to go on meds after that role because he screwed up his thyroid so bad by losing that much weight without a doc’s supervision), I would imagine there’s at least a few decent actors willing to bulk up quite a bit for a role, even if it is with “assistance”. Two actors that come to mind who seemed to have put on a ridiculous amount of weight in a fairly short period of time are Ed Norton in AHX and (I know this one’s a bit goofy) Hank Azaria in Along Came Polly. Not saying either one of these guys should or even could be Superman. Just that I believe it would be possible to get an actor who could both look and play the role well.
[quote]CC wrote:
Kick-ass thread. Two things going through my mind as I was reading:
I too think it would have been cool to see a different costume for this new Superman. I was always fond of the black costume with the silver S. That looks pretty bad-ass and well-updated for the new millenium. But seeing as how he wore that amid the whole death and revival storyline, just seeing that costume (even if they didn’t include the “Superman dies” storyline) probably would have pissed a whole lot of people off, namely the fanboys.
As one person said about many actors willing to go to extreme levels of leanness for a role (Bale in Machinist and Matt Damon in Courage Under Fire; Damon even had to go on meds after that role because he screwed up his thyroid so bad by losing that much weight without a doc’s supervision), I would imagine there’s at least a few decent actors willing to bulk up quite a bit for a role, even if it is with “assistance”. Two actors that come to mind who seemed to have put on a ridiculous amount of weight in a fairly short period of time are Ed Norton in AHX and (I know this one’s a bit goofy) Hank Azaria in Along Came Polly. Not saying either one of these guys should or even could be Superman. Just that I believe it would be possible to get an actor who could both look and play the role well.[/quote]
speaking of guys who bulked up rather quickly, Ryan Reynolds from VanWilder and Blade III was able to pile on some mass sort’ve quick. Double that and we’d have a smart-ass super-funny-man.
Superman: Dave Batista - the wrestler - damn that dude is SUPERMAN
Wolverine: Glenn Danzig - I mean, doesn’t this guy basically base his whole look on Logan already? Dig those mutton chops he sports. He’s got the height and the thickness.
Storm: Beyonce. Storm is supposed to be hot as hell - Angela Bassett is ripped but she’s busted as hell - too mannish looking.
Colossus: Dolph Lundgren, circa Rocky IV - dye his hair black. Current: Jouka Ahola (Finnish World’s Strongest Man champ, played the huge German dude in Kingdom of Heaven that gets the arrow through the neck) or Nathan Jones (the huge dude at the beginning of Troy)
Jean Grey: Lindsay Lohan - before she became a cokehead skank.
Batman - I don’t understand how you demand that Batman be HUGE, it doesn’t make sense given the gymnastic style fighting he uses. Bulky = slow = dead ass batman.
Cyclops: Christian Bale would make a good Cyclops as well, much better than that chode they have playing him. Cyclops is supposed to be bitter and conflicted.
SpiderMan - they nailed the part with Tobey Maguire. That dude is Peter Parker. He’s supposed to be a skinny, wiry dude. If you want some swole as dude in the spidey suit write a script where Spidey goes up against Venom or Carnage.
They gotta bring Bishop into the X-movies. Ving Rhames would nail the part.
Let’s have some fun with X-3 : who would you cast as the Hellfire Club? (assuming they stay faithful to the Dark Phoenix cycle of X-Men 129-137)
yeh it doesn’t make sense that in this current time of Superman, (Smallville, and now the new movie), that Clark Kent (Tom Welling), is actually bigger than Superman (Routh).
Superman should be just that - SUPERMAN! he should be huge, and ripped. not a toned, normal size man.
I like the Smallville series, (mostly because of Kristen Kruek, Erica Durance. but also because the Luthors are played very well by Rosenbaum and Glover. the whole mythology story line is cool too.)
there were a bunch of really poor episodes this season, but at least the finale was good.
Wolverine, yea we needed someone a bit edgier someone with more of a clint eastwood type image.
And you really nailed the other one’s, though I think superman needs to be someone more realistic. It’d be kind of obvious that batista is superman fucking glasses won’t hide a build like that lol.
A buffed up Brendan Fraser could do it… but eghhh he’s been in too many franchises (George of the jungle, mummy). And I won’t be able to get “Encino Man” out of my head when if he played superman lol.
Josh Hartnett could pull off a REALLY GOOD Clark Kent. But he would need to add another 100lbs to play a good Superman
About the “farmboy build”. Please refer to this guy named Matt Hughes. The “Farmboy build” is built by throwing bales of hay and cow tipping (lol) farmboys are ripped, rugged, and dense.
Tom Welling, smallville dude, actually IS a great choice suprisingly. Even Christopher Reeve(rip) said so (Good enough for me )
Halle Berry needs to sex it up more to be a good storm haha.
My only beef with the spider man movies is who the FUCK did they pick to play mary jane???
MARY JANE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SUPER-MODEL!!!
Nikki Cox should have been mary jane.
thinks
Hell Christian Bale can play Superman too couldn’t he. O_o
Actually, while Eddie Brock (Venom) was pretty beefy, Cletus Kasady (Carnage) was fairly wiry as well, probably even more so than Peter Parker. Just couldn’t pass that one up, as I used to be a huge Spidey fan. I’m a fucking nerd, sorry
[quote]CC wrote:
SpiderMan - they nailed the part with Tobey Maguire. That dude is Peter Parker. He’s supposed to be a skinny, wiry dude. If you want some swole as dude in the spidey suit write a script where Spidey goes up against Venom or Carnage.
Actually, while Eddie Brock (Venom) was pretty beefy, Cletus Kasady (Carnage) was fairly wiry as well, probably even more so than Peter Parker. Just couldn’t pass that one up, as I used to be a huge Spidey fan. I’m a fucking nerd, sorry :-)[/quote]
Haha funny and true!
Nerd fact, eddie brock could bench 500lbs before becoming one with the symbiote. Thus the symbiote just magnified his already huge strength.
Which is why he was massively stronger than spiderman.
[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
GriffinC wrote:
You guys spend A BIT too much time looking at other men… It’s even worse that you guys claim THEY have problems.
At least they only look, tubesteak queen.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Joe Weider wrote:
GriffinC wrote:
You guys spend A BIT too much time looking at other men… It’s even worse that you guys claim THEY have problems.
I saw a picture of him as Clark Kent, and I thought he looked all wrong. I think they are going for a Super-Metrosexual-Man. They want the soft pretty boy.
As was mentioned before, Christopher Reeve did wear a sweater for his audition, and they were planning on giving him a fake bodysuit, but he refused, and actually worked out. Maybe they should have used one for the current guy.
Comic book characters are supposed to be bigger then life, I think the movies should reflect that.
Comic book characters are supposed to be bigger then life, I think the movies should reflect that.[/quote]
Agreed. Superman was never a wimp. Even when George Reeves played him in the 1950’s, he was considered “built” for the times. It is like we are going backwards and rejecting all signs of masculinity. Superman has always been HUGE in the comics. Never has he been “an average guy in a spandex suit”. Even Clark was “farm boy big”…which is not what is being presented in this new movie.
Does Superman need the cape to fly? I can understand the pretty blue leotards–hell, I like wearing them even when I’m not doing Pilates. Grown men should not be wearing capes–it just seems a bit “off”.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Does Superman need the cape to fly? I can understand the pretty blue leotards–hell, I like wearing them even when I’m not doing Pilates. Grown men should not be wearing capes–it just seems a bit “off”.[/quote]
The cape signifies what was worn by leaders on his home world. He doesn’t need anything to fly. The whole outfit is supposed to be in honor of where he came from. It is supposed to be “coincidence” that the symbol on his chest is shaped like our letter “S”.
[quote]NateN wrote:
Too bad there aren’t too many good actors that are also very muscular running around. Although I do have high hopes for The Rock.[/quote]
Yeah-I think this is the reason. Although, I don’t know how necessary top-notch acting would be for this type of movie. They also wantsomeone who they think will be box-office. In Hollywood, this is more important than comic-book realism.
I was actually searching for a picture of the black Supes costume (I thought Mage’s was cool and wanted to find some others), and came across this little blurb. Thought it was kind of cool:
[i]Other Miscellaneous Superman Stuff
Did You Know?
Muhammad Ali - Black Superman
Did you know that Muhammad Ali used to refer to himself as the Black Superman?
There was even a song called “Black Superman-Muhammad Ali” by Johnny Wakelin & The Kinshasa Band. The main lyrics were:
Sing, Muhammad, Muhammad Ali
He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee
Muhammad, the black superman
Who calls to the other guy I'm Ali catch me if you can.
Which brings to mind one fantastic story…
At the height of his fame, Muhammad Ali was settling into his plane seat when an air hostess came and gently reminded him to put on his seatbelt.
“Superman don’t need no seatbelt”, Ali snorted.
“Superman don’t need no airplane”, the hostess retorted, a winner by knockout.[/i]
I also read somewhere on that same site that Josh Hartnett actually turned down the role of the new Superman. I just thought that was interesting since someone mentioned here that he would have made a good choice…
