PROF X!!!
Shit!! You’re STILL here!! You’re fucking here, motherfucker!!!
FUCKING A!!!
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
PROF X!!!
Shit!! You’re here!! You’re fucking here, motherfucker!!!
FUCKING A!!![/quote]
Surprising how things turn out, huh?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
PROF X!!!
Shit!! You’re here!! You’re fucking here, motherfucker!!!
FUCKING A!!![/quote]
Surprising how things turn out, huh?[/quote]
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
pretty much [/quote]
Yeap.
Michael Bay wishes he directed that final fight scene. It would probably last an hour longer, with the most outrageous fight combos and galaxies explosions/destructions never seen on a screen before.
Nards would be killed by boredom and extreme frustration ten mins in.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
this movie was straight ass, no character development, random scenes, shit cinematography. It jumped around so much, they should have explained Zodd’s motives better, and they completely changed who superman is. He is not a son god sent to earth, he is a human who realizes he is more. [/quote]
He actually is a “sun God” sent to Earth. He isn’t human.
The entire race was bred to do specific jobs. He was bred to be a warrior and to protect Krypton…so that was his purpose in life.
Supes killed him because Zod was about to laser fry a family. I actually thought that much was done well…because in one swoop they erase the “I never kill” issue and show what he cares about more than anything.[/quote]
Yes but past characterizations show his struggle dealing with his human side aka Clark and his Sun God side aka Superman. With this, he is all god, there is nothing about him that was human. Everything was different for the worse.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
Spoilers
I have not read all of your thoughts so I may be repeated but anyways here are some of my thoughts.
It’s important to realize that superman is cursed in the sense that the very nature of the superhero itself makes it almost impossible being as good as people expect it too. First off, EVERYONE knows it. The three most common superheros are Batman, Superman and Spiderman. That sets high expectations right away. The thing that makes superman exponentially harder is that unlike the other two, a simple punch or a knife doesn’t hurt him. The villain and the plot have to be crafted in a certain way each time the franchise is made, which makes the plot all the more limited and therefore predictable.
With that being said, I believe they definintely pulled it off with this one. The main complaint that I guess people will have (have not read any post) is that the character development is rather shallow. To this I can’t argue, but I think that’s a good thing. Most people understand on a semi deep level who these characters are all about; they don’t need the very basics of their character explained to them. Maybe people like Perry White and others like him were a bit underdeveloped, but it didn’t severely impact the plot in my eyes.
As far as the acting goes, I really think that everyone did a good job, but Clark’s two fathers were stand out. The actual structure of the plot was VERY well done IMO, in that we see chracter development through a series of flashbacks. And the action was legit.
My favorite thing that the movie did well was try to reset the rules of being a Kryptonian. Before this movie, it was simply “come to this planet, absorb the sun, become god, stay away from green rocks”, but this one did a decent job of explaining how the senses become heightened and that adjusting to the atmosphere takes time and pressure. It also plausibly explains why Superman is stronger than Zod; he honed in his skills through years of being on earth with the help of his loving parents. Zod did not.
Overall the only real short coming was the dialogue, namely that of Zod, the other villians, and Clark’s childhood (“fight me, c’mon fight me”).
Honestly I think that they should have made two movies out of this; the first movie being strictly Kryptonian life; the first scene would be the climax of the first move with the final scene being sending clark to earth, and the second movie being about Clark’s late chilhood and the events of man of steal. [/quote]
this movie was straight ass, no character development, random scenes, shit cinematography. It jumped around so much, they should have explained Zodd’s motives better, and they completely changed who superman is. He is not a son god sent to earth, he is a human who realizes he is more. [/quote]
Really Zod’s motives weren’t explained? It was pretty clear cut.
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maybe I should have said more clearly, the whole I’m the general and I was born to keep krypton going by any means necessary was fucking lame, and then Superman fucking kills him? wtf[/quote]
The Kryptonians were genetically engineered into castes for generations. Kal-El was the first natural birth in millennia and the codex imprinted within him by Jor-El would have just allowed Zod to recreate a doomed race on earth. He was bred to do it.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
this movie was straight ass, no character development, random scenes, shit cinematography. It jumped around so much, they should have explained Zodd’s motives better, and they completely changed who superman is. He is not a son god sent to earth, he is a human who realizes he is more. [/quote]
He actually is a “sun God” sent to Earth. He isn’t human.
The entire race was bred to do specific jobs. He was bred to be a warrior and to protect Krypton…so that was his purpose in life.
Supes killed him because Zod was about to laser fry a family. I actually thought that much was done well…because in one swoop they erase the “I never kill” issue and show what he cares about more than anything.[/quote]
Yes but past characterizations show his struggle dealing with his human side aka Clark and his Sun God side aka Superman. With this, he is all god, there is nothing about him that was human. Everything was different for the worse.[/quote]
Look forward to the deleted scene where teenage Clark pops a zit and smashes a mirror with Kryptonian pus to show his human side.
Lol I love that people are hating on the right scenes. I fucking loved them
[quote]IFlashBack wrote:
Spoilers
I have not read all of your thoughts so I may be repeated but anyways here are some of my thoughts.
It’s important to realize that superman is cursed in the sense that the very nature of the superhero itself makes it almost impossible being as good as people expect it too. First off, EVERYONE knows it. The three most common superheros are Batman, Superman and Spiderman. That sets high expectations right away. The thing that makes superman exponentially harder is that unlike the other two, a simple punch or a knife doesn’t hurt him. The villain and the plot have to be crafted in a certain way each time the franchise is made, which makes the plot all the more limited and therefore predictable.
With that being said, I believe they definintely pulled it off with this one. The main complaint that I guess people will have (have not read any post) is that the character development is rather shallow. To this I can’t argue, but I think that’s a good thing. Most people understand on a semi deep level who these characters are all about; they don’t need the very basics of their character explained to them. Maybe people like Perry White and others like him were a bit underdeveloped, but it didn’t severely impact the plot in my eyes.
As far as the acting goes, I really think that everyone did a good job, but Clark’s two fathers were stand out. The actual structure of the plot was VERY well done IMO, in that we see chracter development through a series of flashbacks. And the action was legit.
My favorite thing that the movie did well was try to reset the rules of being a Kryptonian. Before this movie, it was simply “come to this planet, absorb the sun, become god, stay away from green rocks”, but this one did a decent job of explaining how the senses become heightened and that adjusting to the atmosphere takes time and pressure. It also plausibly explains why Superman is stronger than Zod; he honed in his skills through years of being on earth with the help of his loving parents. Zod did not.
Overall the only real short coming was the dialogue, namely that of Zod, the other villians, and Clark’s childhood (“fight me, c’mon fight me”).
Honestly I think that they should have made two movies out of this; the first movie being strictly Kryptonian life; the first scene would be the climax of the first move with the final scene being sending clark to earth, and the second movie being about Clark’s late chilhood and the events of man of steal. [/quote]
The first movie set just on Krypton would’ve worked. Risky without the main character but still…why not a Superman prequel?
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
So nobody here thought the two female baddies were hot?[/quote]
Cold. Sexy. Dangerous. Strong.
Makes a man run for his pilot chair so he can go crash the plane 'cos he knows I’m about to kick his motherfucking bitch ass once again.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Faora.
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I’m not sure if its just me but the way Faora looked at the colonel, she wanted his babies.
Twice she just looked at him in a way a hot female prisoner would look at an attractive strong guy once she is out of prison…tasty.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Lol I love that people are hating on the right scenes. I fucking loved them[/quote]
Samesies
I think I need to see this movie again, maybe wait for DVD…because I feel I may be remebering incorrectly how shitty the final battle was.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I’m not sure if its just me but the way Faora looked at the colonel, she wanted his babies.
Twice she just looked at him in a way a hot female prisoner would look at an attractive strong guy once she is out of prison…tasty.[/quote]
I’m sorry. You’re wrong. She looked at him as if she was to bust his balls.
With her iron fists.
I think, during that scene, you were imagining the next Superman porn movie, in which Faora has totally lost her strength and control to a macho-man like the colonel, who copiously punishes her.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I’m not sure if its just me but the way Faora looked at the colonel, she wanted his babies.
Twice she just looked at him in a way a hot female prisoner would look at an attractive strong guy once she is out of prison…tasty.[/quote]
I’m sorry. You’re wrong. She looked at him as if she was to bust his balls.
With her iron fists.
I think, during that scene, you were imagining the next Superman porn movie, in which Faora has totally lost her strength and control to a macho-man like the colonel, who copiously punishes her.
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uh huh. She is from Krypton so a feminist she aint.
Twice the colonel stood up to her, once with a knife and she obliged.
Then the next time she ripped through his air crew, the cockpit wall and stood there with a “oh look its you again” look in her eyes.
Its love at first sight.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I think I need to see this movie again, maybe wait for DVD…because I feel I may be remebering incorrectly how shitty the final battle was. [/quote]
Mannnnnnnn, I loved it.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Wasn’t Superman brought up to respect human life and understand what it is like to be human with all of our vulnerabilities?
Anybody with a god complex would shag all day and drink the rest, saving people isn’t a job to somebody like that unless they have been in a position of vulnerability themselves. His planet was destroyed and he is alone and we’re his only friends.[/quote]
I guess he’s resigned to dealing with us because he has no other option to bring back his planet and all he knows. I guess he’s just as vulnerable on his home planet as we are here, and through that respects us as a broken species, but I find it insane that he still wasn’t changed with the acknowledgement of his new-found powers on Earth. To not have even made one disastrous mistake and punch someone without thinking or kill some escaped convicts from a rolled over prison truck if they start murdering, if he has the capabilities to not allow himself to do that once ever, even with all the stress he’s under and the criticisms of people all around the world, I regret to compare him to humans, he’d be ridiculously more morally sound than any humans would be in a similar situation for such a length of time.
I know that he just has to deal with it because otherwise he’s alone and spinning his wheels for eternity unless he decides to plan out a route to another planet with life and try not to let the same thing happen, but his faith and appreciation for us as a species given his capabilities is still ridiculous.[/quote]
Well, many did die in that battle. But maybe he views us as an extension of his Earth parents. Who’s says what could happen to a 50-60 yr old superman who has become jaded with the Human race. But he is still a young man, who loves is mom and respects his dad.
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Look me up on G+ please
[quote]Nards wrote:
I think I need to see this movie again, maybe wait for DVD…because I feel I may be remebering incorrectly how shitty the final battle was. [/quote]
Look online for videos of the fight scenes. I don’t have it know but I saw a random link for a crappy quality video of the last fight scene from Zod first flying to neck snap and it was under 7 minutes. I forget what happened before that part in the fight but I don’t think it was as long.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Wasn’t Superman brought up to respect human life and understand what it is like to be human with all of our vulnerabilities?
Anybody with a god complex would shag all day and drink the rest, saving people isn’t a job to somebody like that unless they have been in a position of vulnerability themselves. His planet was destroyed and he is alone and we’re his only friends.[/quote]
I guess he’s resigned to dealing with us because he has no other option to bring back his planet and all he knows. I guess he’s just as vulnerable on his home planet as we are here, and through that respects us as a broken species, but I find it insane that he still wasn’t changed with the acknowledgement of his new-found powers on Earth. To not have even made one disastrous mistake and punch someone without thinking or kill some escaped convicts from a rolled over prison truck if they start murdering, if he has the capabilities to not allow himself to do that once ever, even with all the stress he’s under and the criticisms of people all around the world, I regret to compare him to humans, he’d be ridiculously more morally sound than any humans would be in a similar situation for such a length of time.
I know that he just has to deal with it because otherwise he’s alone and spinning his wheels for eternity unless he decides to plan out a route to another planet with life and try not to let the same thing happen, but his faith and appreciation for us as a species given his capabilities is still ridiculous.[/quote]
Well, many did die in that battle. But maybe he views us as an extension of his Earth parents. Who’s says what could happen to a 50-60 yr old superman who has become jaded with the Human race. But he is still a young man, who loves is mom and respects his dad.
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Look me up on G+ please[/quote]
I’ll try, my G+ skills are lacking
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
I think I need to see this movie again, maybe wait for DVD…because I feel I may be remebering incorrectly how shitty the final battle was. [/quote]
Look online for videos of the fight scenes. I don’t have it know but I saw a random link for a crappy quality video of the last fight scene from Zod first flying to neck snap and it was under 7 minutes. I forget what happened before that part in the fight but I don’t think it was as long.[/quote]
Thanks,
If it matters I also found the fight with Faora (I prefer to call her Ursa)too long also.