In MOST of the Superman origin stories, Brainiac is the AI that the whole population has complete and unquestioning faith in, and they rely on it for practically everything. Brainiac develops his own motives and becomes obsessed with preserving knowledge at the expense of lives. He lies to the Kryptonians about their planet’s unstable core so that he can upload his knowledge off world and save himself.
If he told the Kryptonians the truth he believes they would attempt to waste his energy looking for a solution or trying to save themselves, but he thinks it is more important to ensure the survival of Kryptons information than the people themselves. Only Kal-El distrusts him, and he manages to save his son, but no one else believes him until it is too late, and that’s why they all stayed and died.
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They could use that storyline for a later movie, they left it fairly open.
Only plot hole I couldn’t figure out is how the fuck was Kal-El’s suit on the 20,000 year old scout ship?
Overall it was a good superman movie but Superman Returns is a better overall movie
I like how everything was rosy after Metropolis got hit hard.
“ok lets all go to work having suffered tremendous strife at the hands of aliens, who we didn’t believe existed until 24hours ago”.
meh
Anyways, I loved the film but those two bad girls. I’d hulk smash them any day. The human colonel and one of them in the plane had the sexface looks. Sure she just murdered several of his men but he’d have banged her pretty damn well. or she him.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Alright I will say this though, the two plot holes that really pissed me off were:
SPOILERS:
Why the fuck did everyone stay on Krypton?
In MOST of the Superman origin stories, Brainiac is the AI that the whole population has complete and unquestioning faith in, and they rely on it for practically everything. Brainiac develops his own motives and becomes obsessed with preserving knowledge at the expense of lives. He lies to the Kryptonians about their planet’s unstable core so that he can upload his knowledge off world and save himself.
If he told the Kryptonians the truth he believes they would attempt to waste his energy looking for a solution or trying to save themselves, but he thinks it is more important to ensure the survival of Kryptons information than the people themselves. Only Kal-El distrusts him, and he manages to save his son, but no one else believes him until it is too late, and that’s why they all stayed and died.
In this movie however… I dunno. They were all just like “It’s our fault our planet is fucked up, let’s go down with this ship.” Or something? Ironically they only sent their criminals off-world to survive.
Why the fuck did Kevin Costner go back for the dog? They could have made that a little girl or something and it would make sense. But he went into a goddamn tornado… to save the family dog. I love my dog practically like a child, but you don’t sacrifice a human life for the life of a dog no matter how beloved a pet. It was nonsense.[/quote]
There were a TON of plot holes, some of which were kind of frustrating. Also, I’d save my dog over any other human except my mom. It’s that unfounded sense of human entitlement that has doomed our planet and species.
[quote]dirtman wrote:
He pulls a drone spy plane out of the sky to make a point to not track him, yet wears glasses to fool facial recognition software?
Tells the general he is from Kansas and if a reporter can piece together who he is. Who’s to say the NSA or CIA or Homeland could not do this? And still uses the name Clark Kent.
If they are going to break from the story a lease make it believable. But it was a good action movie 7.5/10
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I do have to agree with you there to some degree…but I also got the impression that they do know who he is…and they just let him be. They were looking for his scout ship.
They DO need to handle how everyone can have a camera in their phone (sometimes TWO in one phone) yet a pair of glasses is all Clark needs to hide…but then again, the way he was moving in the movie, most people won’t get a chance to stare long.
Maybe he inherited “camera scrambling ability” from Krypton.
[quote]csulli wrote:
2. Why the fuck did Kevin Costner go back for the dog? They could have made that a little girl or something and it would make sense. But he went into a goddamn tornado… to save the family dog. I love my dog practically like a child, but you don’t sacrifice a human life for the life of a dog no matter how beloved a pet. It was nonsense.[/quote]
[quote]csulli wrote:
Lonnie and Nards I think you two are just getting old.
Also I’ve heard that thing about “there were no funny parts” a bunch of places. I never even thought about that until other people started mentioning it. Who says there have to be funny parts? I dunno it just never bothered me I guess. I didn’t go to that movie for yucks.[/quote]
Cant argue with you there
I dont know what it was about this movie, as I have heard many valid points about my critiques and now agree with them. For some reason, for me, the sum was worse than the whole of the parts.
I really enjoyed Star Trek so I’m not immune the Summer Blockbuster type of stuff, this movie was just a swing and a miss for me.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
I thought the movie was pretty bad from a story/script perspective. Terrible actually. Visually it was about as a good as CGI-Porn gets, but this was greatly overshadowed by the lackluster story for me. I walked out of the theater wishing I could have gotten my money back.
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Have to disagree here…they were tasked with making a movie where everyone already knows the basic story…and making it fresh to watch. They succeeded in that. That is one reason I was happy to see the movie switch scenes as soon as the space ship was about to crash…because we saw that already in previous movies.
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I didn’t think there was any depth to any of the characters except Clark’s dad, who we see for all of 5 minutes in the movie. I felt that they really missed a great opportunity here to delve further into the relationship between Clark, his dad, and the whole “if people find out who you are they will reject you” idea. Instead… As soon as they find out who he is, they embrace him right away. So that entire plot element, which was built up to be the MAIN idea of the movie, vanishes in a second.[/quote]
Again, you have an audience that was literally raised on the basic Superman story line…and then Smallville has been on for the last decade.
I think they did enough to go way deeper in future movies.
I think they tried to make a movie about a guy who came from another planet who had finding out who he was coincide with one of his biggest possible threats.
The public would have hated him if this really happened now…unless he saved the whole freaking planet first.
I agree the story was rushed and they could have done more backstory.
In MOST of the Superman origin stories, Brainiac is the AI that the whole population has complete and unquestioning faith in, and they rely on it for practically everything. Brainiac develops his own motives and becomes obsessed with preserving knowledge at the expense of lives. He lies to the Kryptonians about their planet’s unstable core so that he can upload his knowledge off world and save himself.
If he told the Kryptonians the truth he believes they would attempt to waste his energy looking for a solution or trying to save themselves, but he thinks it is more important to ensure the survival of Kryptons information than the people themselves. Only Kal-El distrusts him, and he manages to save his son, but no one else believes him until it is too late, and that’s why they all stayed and died.
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They could use that storyline for a later movie, they left it fairly open.
Only plot hole I couldn’t figure out is how the fuck was Kal-El’s suit on the 20,000 year old scout ship?
Overall it was a good superman movie but Superman Returns is a better overall movie :D[/quote]
The suit had a generic symbol that stood for hope on it and looked like standard material common to kryptonians since zod had a similar look to his. Or maybe the ship had a kryptonian sewing machine onboard…
You guys are way too out their looking for coplex plot whole when we still dont know how does superman shave? Or get his hair cut? I never understood that much.
In MOST of the Superman origin stories, Brainiac is the AI that the whole population has complete and unquestioning faith in, and they rely on it for practically everything. Brainiac develops his own motives and becomes obsessed with preserving knowledge at the expense of lives. He lies to the Kryptonians about their planet’s unstable core so that he can upload his knowledge off world and save himself.
If he told the Kryptonians the truth he believes they would attempt to waste his energy looking for a solution or trying to save themselves, but he thinks it is more important to ensure the survival of Kryptons information than the people themselves. Only Kal-El distrusts him, and he manages to save his son, but no one else believes him until it is too late, and that’s why they all stayed and died.
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They could use that storyline for a later movie, they left it fairly open.
Only plot hole I couldn’t figure out is how the fuck was Kal-El’s suit on the 20,000 year old scout ship?
Overall it was a good superman movie but Superman Returns is a better overall movie :D[/quote]
The suit had a generic symbol that stood for hope on it and looked like standard material common to kryptonians since zod had a similar look to his. Or maybe the ship had a kryptonian sewing machine onboard…
You guys are way too out their looking for coplex plot whole when we still dont know how does superman shave? Or get his hair cut? I never understood that much. [/quote]
That kinda threw me off, too. He goes onto the mothership in shoddy clothes and sporting a full beard and comes out Suped up and clean shaven. The suit part made sense, the no-beard, not so much. There were quite a few things that didn’t add up, but I still enjoyed it.
In MOST of the Superman origin stories, Brainiac is the AI that the whole population has complete and unquestioning faith in, and they rely on it for practically everything. Brainiac develops his own motives and becomes obsessed with preserving knowledge at the expense of lives. He lies to the Kryptonians about their planet’s unstable core so that he can upload his knowledge off world and save himself.
If he told the Kryptonians the truth he believes they would attempt to waste his energy looking for a solution or trying to save themselves, but he thinks it is more important to ensure the survival of Kryptons information than the people themselves. Only Kal-El distrusts him, and he manages to save his son, but no one else believes him until it is too late, and that’s why they all stayed and died.
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They could use that storyline for a later movie, they left it fairly open.
Only plot hole I couldn’t figure out is how the fuck was Kal-El’s suit on the 20,000 year old scout ship?
Overall it was a good superman movie but Superman Returns is a better overall movie :D[/quote]
The suit had a generic symbol that stood for hope on it and looked like standard material common to kryptonians since zod had a similar look to his. Or maybe the ship had a kryptonian sewing machine onboard…
You guys are way too out their looking for coplex plot whole when we still dont know how does superman shave? Or get his hair cut? I never understood that much. [/quote]
That kinda threw me off, too. He goes onto the mothership in shoddy clothes and sporting a full beard and comes out Suped up and clean shaven. The suit part made sense, the no-beard, not so much. There were quite a few things that didn’t add up, but I still enjoyed it.
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Of course! Not sure how I missed that. Also fully agree about Adams as Lois Lane. I think she’s a good actress, just think they coulda found a more attractive Lois. Maybe they were aiming for the “girl next door” angle.
Not to mention…we have no idea just how deep that father and son talk really was.
I am guessing it was life changing.
Something like, “Hey, Clark…yeah, you have super sperm too. You can literally just tell your sperm to not get her pregnant. I mean, seriously, where would you get condoms anyway!!! But hey, shave first”
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Of course! Not sure how I missed that. Also fully agree about Adams as Lois Lane. I think she’s a good actress, just think they coulda found a more attractive Lois. Maybe they were aiming for the “girl next door” angle. [/quote]
Yeah if you lived next door to a mediocre redhead who overacts every seen.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Of course! Not sure how I missed that. Also fully agree about Adams as Lois Lane. I think she’s a good actress, just think they coulda found a more attractive Lois. Maybe they were aiming for the “girl next door” angle. [/quote]
Yeah if you lived next door to a mediocre redhead who overacts every seen. [/quote]
WOW…
You people obviously do not get as horny over redheads as I do.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Of course! Not sure how I missed that. Also fully agree about Adams as Lois Lane. I think she’s a good actress, just think they coulda found a more attractive Lois. Maybe they were aiming for the “girl next door” angle. [/quote]
Yeah if you lived next door to a mediocre redhead who overacts every seen. [/quote]
WOW…
You people obviously do not get as horny over redheads as I do.[/quote]
She also didn’t get enough screen time to overact.
For real tho, Lois is a bitch. That’s just who she is.
7.5/10