trailer, you started yet?
[quote]trailer36 wrote:
neversatisfied wrote:
daddymc:
Just bought my bottles of sd. Question is, is the Nova only for use during pct? and are u using that in conjuction with Prostanozol. any info would be great. thanks
yes, only use the nolva for PCT.[/quote]
Correct. You would only want to use it during a cycle if you showed signs of gyno. Not a common side with SD, but you never know.
How do you guys think 6-oxo stacks up vs. nolva for PCT? I am unable to find any distributers of nolva in my town and saw 6-oxo to be decent. Any incite is appreciated.
[quote]allout wrote:
I’m doing 40 mg of SD on my third week with absolutely no sides, just tremendous gains, I should be up 15 lbs by the end of this week, what AAS can deliver those kind of results this fast? [/quote]
I can think of quite a few AAS that deliver those gains, that fast.
[quote]daddymc wrote:
allout wrote:
daddymc I’m curious as to how your PCT is going, strength losses? how bout wieght and appearance? any adverse reaction to Nolvadex?
PCT is going great outside of the horrible taste of Nolvadex. Strength is still there - my pre-cycle flat bench PR was 275 lbs. I repped that 5 times Monday. Weight is holding steady at 225lbs @ 3,500 cals. Bloating is gone I’m happy to say. No apparent sides to the liquid Nolvadex @ 3 ml ED. Libido is great and I no longer notice any shrinkage in “the boys”.[/quote]
How bout your PC blood work?
[quote]ubiquitous wrote:
allout wrote:
I’m doing 40 mg of SD on my third week with absolutely no sides, just tremendous gains, I should be up 15 lbs by the end of this week, what AAS can deliver those kind of results this fast?
I can think of quite a few AAS that deliver those gains, that fast.
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Without stacking, which single steroid would give me 10-12 lbm in 21 days, without sides, especially water retention?
[quote]brandon51287 wrote:
How do you guys think 6-oxo stacks up vs. nolva for PCT? I am unable to find any distributers of nolva in my town and saw 6-oxo to be decent. Any incite is appreciated.[/quote]
6-oxo is not sufficient for PCT. Find some Nolva on the internet. Read through this thread and use google - it is your friend.
[quote]allout wrote:
daddymc wrote:
allout wrote:
daddymc I’m curious as to how your PCT is going, strength losses? how bout wieght and appearance? any adverse reaction to Nolvadex?
PCT is going great outside of the horrible taste of Nolvadex. Strength is still there - my pre-cycle flat bench PR was 275 lbs. I repped that 5 times Monday. Weight is holding steady at 225lbs @ 3,500 cals. Bloating is gone I’m happy to say. No apparent sides to the liquid Nolvadex @ 3 ml ED. Libido is great and I no longer notice any shrinkage in “the boys”.
How bout your PC blood work?
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I’m only one week into PCT so far. If my insurance covers it, I’ll have the bloodwork done about a week after PCT completes.
First off I wanted to say this is a great thread. I’m wrapping up my first week at 20mg a day and was gonna jump up to 30mg for the next week or 2. My question is what would ya’ll feel is the best way to go about it? 3 caps taken at 3 different times of day or 2 at once and 1 8-10hrs later? Any advice is welcomed and appreciated.
[quote]allout wrote:
Without stacking, which single steroid would give me 10-12 lbm in 21 days, without sides, especially water retention?
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Bro, even though you don’t feel the sides, I can pretty much guarantee that your HDL took a nosedive, and your LDL rose.
I guess what I’m really saying is that you’ll get sides with any highly active compound, if you feel them or not.
Nice results by the way… I seem to remember you poking around about AAS before… is this your first “cycle”? If that is, that would also explain the dramatic weight gain.
Oh, and If I really really really really had to run an oral only cycle, and I had all the choices in the world… and I dind’t want water retention and still get comparable results…and if it was my first cycle mind you… then… Oral Turinabol. 
(But I would never run an oral only cycle if I had a choice.)
But that’s just me and I’m mental.
[quote]ubiquitous wrote:
allout wrote:
Without stacking, which single steroid would give me 10-12 lbm in 21 days, without sides, especially water retention?
Bro, even though you don’t feel the sides, I can pretty much guarantee that your HDL took a nosedive, and your LDL rose.
I guess what I’m really saying is that you’ll get sides with any highly active compound, if you feel them or not.
Nice results by the way… I seem to remember you poking around about AAS before… is this your first “cycle”? If that is, that would also explain the dramatic weight gain.
Oh, and If I really really really really had to run an oral only cycle, and I had all the choices in the world… and I dind’t want water retention and still get comparable results…and if it was my first cycle mind you… then… Oral Turinabol.
(But I would never run an oral only cycle if I had a choice.)
But that’s just me and I’m mental.[/quote]
I’ll call out my own ignorance, the more due diligence I do on Superdrol the more I realize that it is an oral steroid which happens to be very easy to obtain. Not looking forward to the blood panel results, but we’ll see.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
First off I wanted to say this is a great thread. I’m wrapping up my first week at 20mg a day and was gonna jump up to 30mg for the next week or 2. My question is what would ya’ll feel is the best way to go about it? 3 caps taken at 3 different times of day or 2 at once and 1 8-10hrs later? Any advice is welcomed and appreciated.[/quote]
It’s hard to say, because I don’t think I’ve seen anything definitive about SD’s half-life. So that being said, I would probably try and spread it out over the day - morning, preworkout, bedtime.
How are your results with SD so far?
Hello all,
I just got my shipment and I went with Superdrol and Pheraplex. On top of those I will be taking
fish oil
flax oil
milk thistle
3500 - 4000 cal diet
250 - 300 g protein
PCT covered
Low-Card Grow!
Is there anything else that I should add to this. Would it be OK to add HOT-ROX to this also? I was going to start the cycle off with pheraplex for three weeks and then add in 20 mg SD for two weeks then cut the PP and go SD at 30mg. Pretty much exactly what I fount the recomendations were with these stacked. Please if there is anything else I should add please let me know. Also if HOT-ROX are added should that be throughout the whole cycle in the AM?
Thanks
I tried 3 days @10mg a day and got nothing, bumped it up to 20mg a day for a week and gained 3 1/2lbs and some decent strength gains and my diet has been less than stellar this past week. I’m gonna do 30mg a day for the next 14 days and keep my cals at around 4000 daily and see where it takes me. It has made me REALLY lethargic and my low back has been hurtin like a motherfucker, but so far I’m likin it.
Would you reccommend nolva for pct or could I “get by” with rebound xt and 6-oxo or something similar.
Thanks for starting this thread and all of the info you’ve given, You’ve been a big help.
Also, I lift in the morning about 2 1/2-3hrs after breakfast. Should I take my first capsule with bf or should I wait til I’m about to lift. So far I’ve taken my first serving with breakfast then my second about 8 hrs later. Am I not getting the full benefits or am I overthinking this? Thanks. Oh, one more thing: my nuts are tingly all day long. It’s not a pain so much but a tingle comparable to the after effect of hitting your funny bone. But it’s not funny.
Once again, thanks.
[quote]ubiquitous wrote:
I can think of quite a few AAS that deliver those gains, that fast.
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that quickly? with no bloating? with no sides? which ones bro? please, do share…
With regards to the timing of pill-popping; If endogenous T peaks at night and early AM it seems that it would make sense to not take SD in the evening in order to minimize shutdown. Ex: 30mg/day= 20mg with breakfast and then 10mg 8-10 hours later.
A long time ago I had some posts about stacking MAG-10 with 4-AD-EC. CW recommended that I take the MAG-10 in the A.M. and then the 4-AD-EC in the evening to minimize endogenous shutdown. Makes sence to me, how bout’ you all?
[quote]Chip Bronson wrote:
ubiquitous wrote:
I can think of quite a few AAS that deliver those gains, that fast.
that quickly? with no bloating? with no sides? which ones bro? please, do share…
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Don’t make the mistake that SD has no sides. It is real and will mess your lipids up. That is why you need support supps and a proper PCT.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Also, I lift in the morning about 2 1/2-3hrs after breakfast. Should I take my first capsule with bf or should I wait til I’m about to lift. So far I’ve taken my first serving with breakfast then my second about 8 hrs later. Am I not getting the full benefits or am I overthinking this? Thanks. Oh, one more thing: my nuts are tingly all day long. It’s not a pain so much but a tingle comparable to the after effect of hitting your funny bone. But it’s not funny.
Once again, thanks.[/quote]
Overthinking it. Spread it out so that there is a constant amount in your body at any one time. I always took one preworkout, but can’t really say if that added anything to my workout.
Don’t know about the nut tingle. First I heard about that.
[quote]Hugrafix wrote:
Hello all,
I just got my shipment and I went with Superdrol and Pheraplex. On top of those I will be taking
fish oil
flax oil
milk thistle
3500 - 4000 cal diet
250 - 300 g protein
PCT covered
Low-Carb Grow!
Is there anything else that I should add to this. Would it be OK to add HOT-ROX to this also? I was going to start the cycle off with pheraplex for three weeks and then add in 20 mg SD for two weeks then cut the PP and go SD at 30mg. Pretty much exactly what I fount the recomendations were with these stacked. Please if there is anything else I should add please let me know. Also if HOT-ROX are added should that be throughout the whole cycle in the AM?
Thanks[/quote]
Red Yeast Rice with CoQ10 and NAC would be the other support supps that could benefit your lipids and supps such as celery seed and hawthorne berry extract could benefit blood pressure.
I used HOT-ROX throughout my cycle and made great gains. I thought it helped limit the amount of fat I added. The manufacturer suggests using a thermogenic while using SD.