Superdrol Log

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New Log Update:

Day Twenty-Three (July 28): 228.6 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 pm. Another good workout, still feeling very strong. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm. Acne

Day Twenty-Four (July 29): 229.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. Experiencing some minor abdominal bloating. 25 mg Prostan @ 4:00 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Five (July 30): 229.4 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 am. New ATG Squat PR @ 280 lbs and new Box Squat PR @ 300 lbs. No spotter during workout, but I was feeling confident enough to go for these PRs. Very lethargic in afternoon and took a 2.5 hour nap - very unusual. 25 mg Prostan 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Six (July 31): 227.0 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 11:00 am. Decent workout. Very lethargic again - even after sleeping in. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm

Day Twenty-Seven (Aug 1): 226.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:00 pm. Great workout. New Flat Bench PR @ 300 lbs. Decent chest pump and very painful shoulder pump. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Eight (Aug 2): 226.8 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:30 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00pm. Acne. Sore forearms and elbow joints. SD like recovery is gone.

Day Twenty-Nine (Aug 3): 227.0 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:30 pm. Good workout - hit all reps. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm. Acne, lethargy, and some joint pain (elbow and knee) remain as sides.

Day Thirty (Aug 4): 225.6 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:30 pm. Sluggish workout, average intensity, missed some reps. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm

Day Thirty-One (Aug 5): 226.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 8:00 am. Walked about three miles pushing a stroller at the zoo today. Some back pumps - due likely in part to poor hydration. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:00 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm. Acne continues.

Day Thirty-Two (Aug 6): 226.2. 25 mg Prostan @ 8:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:30 am. Also added 2g Taurine preworkout to help with back pumps. Tired & stiff today and didn’t feel like working out. Got warmed up and surprised myself - New Deadlift PR @ 355 lbs. Hit all reps, still some back pumps. Acne contines today. I also noticed the boys are recovering even though PCT does not begin until tomorrow.

In summary, Prostanozol gave me acne and made me very lethargic. I did not gain additional mass with it, however, I continued to hit a number of PRs post SD by just taking Prostanozol @ 75 mgs ED. Additionally, Prostanozol did not seem to give me the recovery powers that SD did and I experienced some joint pain throughout even after taking Glucosamine Chondroitin with MSM and EFAs. This may be ideal for someone wanting to add strength, but not necessarily mass or as a stack with SD or Ergomax. I’m curious as to whether or not I would have experienced the same strength gains without the SD upfront. I’ll let someone else try that though as my next cycle in November will be a stack of Ergomax and Prostanozol.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
daddymc wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
freejury wrote:
Maybe it would be a better idea to skip the Red Yeast and get nolva instead? Also if i had the source to get clomid or nolva which would be optimal?

Both!

bushboy

I’ve thought about this. Would you run the Clomid (Wks 1-2) up front and then follow up with the Nolva (Wks 3-5)? My understanding is that you wouldn’t want to run Clomid alone, but it wouldn’t definately give the “boys” a kick start back and that the Nolva is necessary to help lipid profiles recover.

Nolva apparently does have a more beneficial effect on lipid profiles (which is why it is a better long-term bet for CV health than an AI like A’dex), however it won’t give your HPTA the same surprise as clomid, making (in my opinion) clomid an ESSENTIAL component of PCT, even if it does have some emotional consequences - LMAO!

You can run clomid successfully by itself, though personally I would run 20mg nolva with my 100mg clomid for the fist 2 weeks, before switching to just nolva @ 60mg ED - basically as you’ve outlined…

bushboy[/quote]

Bump on what my man BBB said. It gets me all teary eyed when I hear all the clomid bashing lately. lol

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[quote]daddymc wrote:
New Log Update:

Day Twenty-Three (July 28): 228.6 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 pm. Another good workout, still feeling very strong. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm. Acne

Day Twenty-Four (July 29): 229.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. Experiencing some minor abdominal bloating. 25 mg Prostan @ 4:00 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Five (July 30): 229.4 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 am. New ATG Squat PR @ 280 lbs and new Box Squat PR @ 300 lbs. No spotter during workout, but I was feeling confident enough to go for these PRs. Very lethargic in afternoon and took a 2.5 hour nap - very unusual. 25 mg Prostan 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Six (July 31): 227.0 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 11:00 am. Decent workout. Very lethargic again - even after sleeping in. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm

Day Twenty-Seven (Aug 1): 226.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:00 pm. Great workout. New Flat Bench PR @ 300 lbs. Decent chest pump and very painful shoulder pump. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:00 pm.

Day Twenty-Eight (Aug 2): 226.8 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:30 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00pm. Acne. Sore forearms and elbow joints. SD like recovery is gone.

Day Twenty-Nine (Aug 3): 227.0 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:30 pm. Good workout - hit all reps. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm. Acne, lethargy, and some joint pain (elbow and knee) remain as sides.

Day Thirty (Aug 4): 225.6 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 6:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 7:30 pm. Sluggish workout, average intensity, missed some reps. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm

Day Thirty-One (Aug 5): 226.2 lbs. 25 mg Prostan @ 8:00 am. Walked about three miles pushing a stroller at the zoo today. Some back pumps - due likely in part to poor hydration. 25 mg Prostan @ 5:00 pm. 25 mg Prostan @ 10:00 pm. Acne continues.

Day Thirty-Two (Aug 6): 226.2. 25 mg Prostan @ 8:00 am. 25 mg Prostan @ 9:30 am. Also added 2g Taurine preworkout to help with back pumps. Tired & stiff today and didn’t feel like working out. Got warmed up and surprised myself - New Deadlift PR @ 355 lbs. Hit all reps, still some back pumps. Acne contines today. I also noticed the boys are recovering even though PCT does not begin until tomorrow.

In summary, Prostanozol gave me acne and made me very lethargic. I did not gain additional mass with it, however, I continued to hit a number of PRs post SD by just taking Prostanozol @ 75 mgs ED. Additionally, Prostanozol did not seem to give me the recovery powers that SD did and I experienced some joint pain throughout even after taking Glucosamine Chondroitin with MSM and EFAs. This may be ideal for someone wanting to add strength, but not necessarily mass or as a stack with SD or Ergomax. I’m curious as to whether or not I would have experienced the same strength gains without the SD upfront. I’ll let someone else try that though as my next cycle in November will be a stack of Ergomax and Prostanozol.[/quote]

Ok So the Question I saw much earlier was how do you think SD compares to “RealGear” if it is comparable what would it be comparable to ? Ex:Methandrostenolone ,Stanazolol,Drostanolone or anything like that . I should have all of my Pct by Monday and I will start Superdrol then.
Hmmm anyone ever thought of trying the AD Diet comming off of this as help with Pct or would your cholesterol be all Jacked up too much?
Donnie

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[quote]OUToftheBOX wrote:

Ok So the Question I saw much earlier was how do you think SD compares to “RealGear” if it is comparable what would it be comparable to ? Ex:Methandrostenolone ,Stanazolol,Drostanolone or anything like that . I should have all of my Pct by Monday and I will start Superdrol then.
Hmmm anyone ever thought of trying the AD Diet comming off of this as help with Pct or would your cholesterol be all Jacked up too much?
Donnie
[/quote]

Having never used “real” gear, I can’t say how they compare.

I am considering using SD as part of a cutting cycle while using a V-Diet protocol or possibly by clean eating at 500 cals under maintenance in the spring. I think one could significantly improve body composition while maintaining strength on such a cycle. I read some other logs where cals were under or at maintenance with favorable changes to body comp - sometimes with lean mass gains.

If your goal is to bulk, I would not cut during PCT. You’ll lose all of the gains you made during your cycle.

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Day 5 @ 20mg SD and nothing. I weigh 226lbs.

No raise in Blood Pressure, none of the expected sides(good or bad). I have noticed nothing extra in the gym as I always make small and steady strength gains, as I train for strength.

I will up the dose to 30mg for week two and see what happens.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I’d hardly call 145/72 ‘sky high’, after all it it is the diastolic (72) which is the main indicator of cardiac stress and the accepted ‘normal’ (whatever the f**k that means these days LOL) is 80. Sure you’ve experienced an increase but that is normal when on PH or AAS. The body should eventually normalise - it may take a few weeks though. Besides, most blood pressure medication is pretty severe stuff - diuretics, ACE inhibitors or Beta-blockers are all fairly unpleasant, especially for a non-sedentary individual such as yourself…

just my opinion though…
bushboy[/quote]

First off I should have said not mentioned very much. I understand that a raise in BP is normal on steriods/prohormones. Sorry I should have used another word besides sky high. I understand that 145/72 isn’t high, but it was enough to give me a pretty bad headache at the time, and now a constant mild headache since. The reason I freaked out is that my parents, brothers, and sisters all have high blood pressure, but they also eat like crap, are grossly overweight, and couch potatoes. FWIW, I took my BP again today, day 6, and it was up to 152/85, even with the 1200mg Hawthorn berry extract… Since it is continuing to go up, I’m going to keep a close eye on it. From what I’ve read 140/90 to 160/100 is hypertension I, and 160+/100+. At what BP should I start to get worried, ie, stop taking SD? */90, /100, or 160/?

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[quote]Viking69 wrote:
Day 5 @ 20mg SD and nothing. I weigh 226lbs.

No raise in Blood Pressure, none of the expected sides(good or bad). I have noticed nothing extra in the gym as I always make small and steady strength gains, as I train for strength.

I will up the dose to 30mg for week two and see what happens. [/quote]

What is your training and diet like? Are you getting enough rest? Do you have trouble responding to other AAS or PH?

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how do you think superdrol stacks up against the MAG-10 Destroyer?

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[quote]daddymc wrote:

What is your training and diet like? Are you getting enough rest? Do you have trouble responding to other AAS or PH?
[/quote]

I am 6’ 225 at about 13-15% bodyfat. My best lifts are 330x3 bench, 460x4 full squat and I have pulled over 500. I plan to start in on AAS soon but thought I would give SD a try.

I have never tried PH or AAS before, but I know creatine works well for me.

My training was going well before the SD we will see if this stuff kicks in at 30mg ED. Right now no effects and even my Blood Pressure has not risen.

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RE: blood pressure.

Fish oil and coenzyme Q-10 both can lower pressure. Soo add/increase fish oil as a first approach. The coenzyme Q-10…actually probably takes too long to kick in but might be useful to start taking before your next cycle e.g. at least 100 mg co Q-10 and 2-3 grams EPA+ DHA.

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I have 1 Bottle of Phera -Plex comming. Kinda pricey but I Since I have 3 Bottles of SD Ill try Stacking the two in a later Cycle. The stack will be Phera Plex 1 week at 10 then the second week Phera Plex at 20 and SD at 10 then the 3rd week Superdrol at 20 then taper to the last week at 10 then start PCT .

Carbolin 19 2Caps 2 x a day 1Month
Methoxy-7 2 Caps 2 times a day 1 Month
Alpha Male 3 caps 2 times a day 1 Month
Androstenetrione wk 1 600mg wk 2 300mg wk3 300 till I run out.
I will not use Creatine on the Cycles because of the diuretic effect of the SD
But i will Load back up as soon as the Cycle is over. I hope it will help in the PCT.

I Have Surge for post workout
plus I noted that many people complain about Lethargy on the SD after work outs. I have Two bottles of Spike for those Occasions.
I do have Liver protection covered :).Plus
I will take 12000mg of fish oil per day yes that is 12000mg and 6000mg of Flax oil. I always include a good amount of Olive Oil in my Protien shakes. I will use Niacin 1000mg a day as extra help with the cholesterol.

    Donnie
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On what OUToftheBOX wrote:

I would be really interested in how this stack works out for you, I’ve had outstanding results with Superdrol, be sure to document your experience and then post asap!!

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hey OutoftheBOX, you mentioned you had great results from your previous cycle of SD. Could you post specifics, like how much weight you gained, pounds added to exercises, estimated food/drink log, and any other supplements you did. Any noticeable side effects besides the exhaustion PWO?

I’m receiving my bottle of SD on wednesday and I cant wait to begin, but I’de love to here more stories of others who have received great results so maybe I can copy their “stack”.

Also I was gonna continue use of about 7g creatine during the cycle cause I do get better lifts while on it, is that a big no-no because of water retention? My current available supplements are:
Creatine
Multivitamin
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
Milk Thistle
Tribulus Terrestus (the testosterone promoter from TRIBEX)

plus I’m gonna order some Nolvadex for PCT if needed. But to me it seems like an over-the-counter drug shouldnt need a prescription drug to counter it, Itd be nice to just use something legal, any ideas?

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[quote]freejury wrote:
hey OutoftheBOX, you mentioned you had great results from your previous cycle of SD. Could you post specifics, like how much weight you gained, pounds added to exercises, estimated food/drink log, and any other supplements you did. Any noticeable side effects besides the exhaustion PWO?

I’m receiving my bottle of SD on wednesday and I cant wait to begin, but I’de love to here more stories of others who have received great results so maybe I can copy their “stack”.

Also I was gonna continue use of about 7g creatine during the cycle cause I do get better lifts while on it, is that a big no-no because of water retention? My current available supplements are:
Creatine
Multivitamin
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
Milk Thistle
Tribulus Terrestus (the testosterone promoter from TRIBEX)

plus I’m gonna order some Nolvadex for PCT if needed. But to me it seems like an over-the-counter drug shouldnt need a prescription drug to counter it, Itd be nice to just use something legal, any ideas?[/quote]

IMHO, Nolvadex is a basic necessity for a SD cycle just like the liver support, EFAs, etc are.

Just because SD is over the counter and legal, doesn’t mean that it isn’t powerful and can’t screw up your lipid profiles and hormonal balance. A lot of people made the same mistake with the more powerful prohormones.

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[quote]OUToftheBOX wrote:
I have 1 Bottle of Phera -Plex comming. Kinda pricey but I Since I have 3 Bottles of SD Ill try Stacking the two in a later Cycle. The stack will be Phera Plex 1 week at 10 then the second week Phera Plex at 20 and SD at 10 then the 3rd week Superdrol at 20 then taper to the last week at 10 then start PCT .

Carbolin 19 2Caps 2 x a day 1Month
Methoxy-7 2 Caps 2 times a day 1 Month
Alpha Male 3 caps 2 times a day 1 Month
Androstenetrione wk 1 600mg wk 2 300mg wk3 300 till I run out.
I will not use Creatine on the Cycles because of the diuretic effect of the SD
But i will Load back up as soon as the Cycle is over. I hope it will help in the PCT.

I Have Surge for post workout
plus I noted that many people complain about Lethargy on the SD after work outs. I have Two bottles of Spike for those Occasions.
I do have Liver protection covered :).Plus
I will take 12000mg of fish oil per day yes that is 12000mg and 6000mg of Flax oil. I always include a good amount of Olive Oil in my Protien shakes. I will use Niacin 1000mg a day as extra help with the cholesterol.

    Donnie[/quote]

I’m also curious as to how this stack works out for you. Please reply back with your results - a log would be great.

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[quote]freejury wrote:
hey OutoftheBOX, you mentioned you had great results from your previous cycle of SD. Could you post specifics, like how much weight you gained, pounds added to exercises, estimated food/drink log, and any other supplements you did. Any noticeable side effects besides the exhaustion PWO?

I’m receiving my bottle of SD on wednesday and I cant wait to begin, but I’de love to here more stories of others who have received great results so maybe I can copy their “stack”.

Also I was gonna continue use of about 7g creatine during the cycle cause I do get better lifts while on it, is that a big no-no because of water retention? My current available supplements are:
Creatine
Multivitamin
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
Milk Thistle
Tribulus Terrestus (the testosterone promoter from TRIBEX)

plus I’m gonna order some Nolvadex for PCT if needed. But to me it seems like an over-the-counter drug shouldnt need a prescription drug to counter it, Itd be nice to just use something legal, any ideas?[/quote]

I have only had experience with Biotest products… I have Been working out now for about 14weeks. I am 5’9" and on April 2, I weighed 155 before my first work out.

I worked out almost daily on a split type program but mainly in the begining just to make myself sore to just get that out of the way. I became a little stronger and a lot more toned.

But 9 weeks ago I adopted the yes of all folks Mike Mentzers suggested program and did whole body workouts. I do not just 5 or 6 but 18 different excersises till absolute failure.

But at this very same time I also started taking Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male cycled with M , ZMA and using Low-Carb Grow!. I have also been using HOT-ROX for a little while. I weighed in Last week at 188 I have stopped taking the Biotest suppliments to see if I maintain the gains from them.

In two weeks with out I havent lost a single pound nor have I lost any strength. I am starting the SD cycle today at 10mg. I expect strong gains with this.

I will ( depending on how I progress ) Do a total body work out 3
times a week. I have been taking 200 grams of protien the day of and the day after my workouts then dropping down to about 60 grams a day till the day before my next work out I only get about 30 grams but I Carb load that day not always clean carbs either ( it keeps me sane. :slight_smile:
On SD I will maintain about 150 grams of protien every day.

I work out today and I carb loaded yesterday. this morning I will have a carton of egg whites wich is 50 grams of protien with Low-Carb Grow! (I have the strawberry flavor) 40 grams.

I am getting 90 grams of protien right off the bat I take half now and half in the dressing room before I take my 2nd morning Crap lol.

I should get the rest of my Biotest stuff today or tomorrow.I have 2 bottles of Spike to combat the anticipated lethargy that others have mentioned and I will be using Surge post workout.

I gainned so much with Biotest supplements I actually expect to keep gaining during the Pct. I could be wrong.

I would then drop back to 1 total body work out once per week.

I have been reading about SD for a while and I really appriciate the detail in wich daddymc kept track of everything.

I will do the stack of Phera Plex and SD around the first of the yr after Xmas is over. I am salaried Management at A Walmart Supercenter and Xmas is way too frantic to take anything else into my schedule.

So Now to take the plastic seal off of the black cap ... and remove the sealed for your protection cover. Take one out. Ummmm these things are kinda tiny. well ... down the hatch.

Now … where are my gym shoes?
Keys? check.
Well I will brush my teeth before I go. Cant have my breath smelling like Open Ass.
Later Taters

     Donnie
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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
daddymc wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
freejury wrote:
Maybe it would be a better idea to skip the Red Yeast and get nolva instead? Also if i had the source to get clomid or nolva which would be optimal?

Both!

bushboy

I’ve thought about this. Would you run the Clomid (Wks 1-2) up front and then follow up with the Nolva (Wks 3-5)? My understanding is that you wouldn’t want to run Clomid alone, but it wouldn’t definately give the “boys” a kick start back and that the Nolva is necessary to help lipid profiles recover.

Nolva apparently does have a more beneficial effect on lipid profiles (which is why it is a better long-term bet for CV health than an AI like A’dex), however it won’t give your HPTA the same surprise as clomid, making (in my opinion) clomid an ESSENTIAL component of PCT, even if it does have some emotional consequences - LMAO!

You can run clomid successfully by itself, though personally I would run 20mg nolva with my 100mg clomid for the fist 2 weeks, before switching to just nolva @ 60mg ED - basically as you’ve outlined…

bushboy[/quote]

I have found a way to get Nolvadex 20mg 160 tabs for 114.00 I hope it works out. If not Ill Just up the Androstenetrione to 900 1 wk 600wk 2 and 3 then 300 week4 .
Donnie

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My only observation to report during PCT so far is that liquid Nolva tastes like sht and burns…not that I know what sht tastes like.

I had heard stories about it, but you never really know until you try. For those who have not tried it yet, make sure you have a chaser of some sort…preferably OJ.

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After one week of SD@20mg a day my observations are as follows:

  1. Even if you drink a gallon of water a day it is not enough with this stuff… unless u are connected to an IV u will be dehydrated,and how does that help with strength gains?

  2. I am starting to think SD gave great benefits to people, who while on it, found the proper motavation to diet, exercise, and sleep like they should be doing in the first place. I have noticed no positive effects.

  3. If your gonna do a PCT for popping pills, BUY SOME DBOL AND DO IT FOR A GOOD REASON! Its the same price if not cheaper and it really works.

More to come @30mg a day…