[quote]choochoo00007 wrote:
also wondering if i should be especially concerned w. gyno… lately, since ive been bulking it seems like maybe there has been a little fat stored there? im hoping that the superdrol will also help firm that up again… although i’ve only gained about 5 lbs… it seems like i had a better chest in the winter than now dont know why[/quote]
some users have reported nipple sensitivity but the compound in Sd is not suppossed to aromatize whatsoever. everyone’s body reacts differently so MAKE SURE YOU HAVE NOLVA ON HAND just incase. although companies make these claims (no gyno) it doesnt mean that you personally arent very predisposed to it. like said above, 99% of the users have had no problems but i would have nolva on hand just to be sure.
I just got 3 bottles and was wondering if anyone knows the Mechanism by wich Methasteron works? Plus I also have Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male, M and also ZMA. I was thinking of Starting out with 5 days of 20mg Methasteron then going to 10 days at 30 5 days at 40 back to 5 days at 20 then 20 days at 10.
Starting at the 20 days at 10 with the Carbolin 19 2 twice daily 2 month Cycle along with Methoxy-7 2 twice daily, Alpha Male 3 twice daily,and ZMA at night.
Would the Biotest suppliments help keep any gains that would be made or does any one know? I will be using HotRox with the Superdrol.
I also will do my best to keep a log.
Donnie
[quote]OUToftheBOX wrote:
I just got 3 bottles and was wondering if anyone knows the Mechanism by wich Methasteron works? Plus I also have Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male, M and also ZMA. I was thinking of Starting out with 5 days of 20mg Methasteron then going to 10 days at 30 5 days at 40 back to 5 days at 20 then 20 days at 10.
Starting at the 20 days at 10 with the Carbolin 19 2 twice daily 2 month Cycle along with Methoxy-7 2 twice daily, Alpha Male 3 twice daily,and ZMA at night.
Would the Biotest suppliments help keep any gains that would be made or does any one know? I will be using HotRox with the Superdrol.
I also will do my best to keep a log.
Donnie[/quote]
You shouldn’t need over 20mg on your first cycle. And a 45 day cycle is also a fairly long one. 2-3 weeks with 20-30 MG seems to be working really well for others while minimizing Sides. You might want to try 2weeks on, 2weeks pct, 2 weeks on 4 weeks PCT and off.
[quote]fedaykin wrote:
OUToftheBOX wrote:
I just got 3 bottles and was wondering if anyone knows the Mechanism by wich Methasteron works? Plus I also have Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male, M and also ZMA. I was thinking of Starting out with 5 days of 20mg Methasteron then going to 10 days at 30 5 days at 40 back to 5 days at 20 then 20 days at 10.
Starting at the 20 days at 10 with the Carbolin 19 2 twice daily 2 month Cycle along with Methoxy-7 2 twice daily, Alpha Male 3 twice daily,and ZMA at night.
Would the Biotest suppliments help keep any gains that would be made or does any one know? I will be using HOT-ROX with the Superdrol.
I also will do my best to keep a log.
Donnie
You shouldn’t need over 20mg on your first cycle. And a 45 day cycle is also a fairly long one. 2-3 weeks with 20-30 MG seems to be working really well for others while minimizing Sides. You might want to try 2weeks on, 2weeks pct, 2 weeks on 4 weeks PCT and off.[/quote]
Thanks for the info.
I have been trainning using Hit principles and Total rest and recovery between trainning. I was trainning even everyother day and grew quickly at first but slowed way down. I started lifting every 5 days and literally exploded < what did coach Polquin say that Mike Mentzer was? I guess I am like that> I lift Total body and with 18 Different excersises each performed till total absolute failure. I have Gained from April 2, 155 pounds Morning after a piss and no clothes to my Aug 1st pre work out weigh in of 188… Interesting also that I started taking Carbolin 19,Methoxy-7,Alpha Male Cycled with M, and ZMA at the same time as I started the lifting every 5 days.< I didnt think of that earlier>
would I benifit from Methasteron in the form of faster recovery or just being able to lift more weight? I know I know each person is different and responds differently.
hmmm Mabey there should be a challenge with a comparable stack of the Biotest suppliments I just mentioned wich are as far as I can tell Completeley safe and can be used for extended periods to cycling Methasteron for 2weeks on 2weeks pct 2weeks on 4 weeks pct.
Thats a 10 week period in wich Biotest suppliments could be used the whole time nonstop.
Hmmm would be interesting.
Dayum I just think I hijacked my own reply. LOL.
Donnie
I almost forgot where can I get something for the Pct periods when I cycle. Or better yet … what is best to use legally 
Donnie
[quote]OUToftheBOX wrote:
I just got 3 bottles and was wondering if anyone knows the Mechanism by wich Methasteron works? Plus I also have Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male, M and also ZMA. I was thinking of Starting out with 5 days of 20mg Methasteron then going to 10 days at 30 5 days at 40 back to 5 days at 20 then 20 days at 10.
Starting at the 20 days at 10 with the Carbolin 19 2 twice daily 2 month Cycle along with Methoxy-7 2 twice daily, Alpha Male 3 twice daily,and ZMA at night.
Would the Biotest suppliments help keep any gains that would be made or does any one know? I will be using HOT-ROX with the Superdrol.
I also will do my best to keep a log.
Donnie[/quote]
You don’t want to take Carbolin 19 and HOT-ROX at the same time. You should chose one ofr the other.
I’m not sure that you would benefit from Alpha Male and M while on a SD cycle.
I would only take the Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male after the Superdrol cycle. HOT-ROX On the Cycle.
I would hope that the Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7 plus the Alpha Male would help in retaining gains.
Donnie
[quote]OUToftheBOX wrote:
I would only take the Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7, Alpha Male after the Superdrol cycle. HOT-ROX On the Cycle.
I would hope that the Carbolin 19, Methoxy-7 plus the Alpha Male would help in retaining gains.
Donnie[/quote]
I agree. This is the protocol I am running.
I dont have enough money to buy all the Biotest stuff, my planned supplements are:
-Superdrol 10mg week1/20mg week2-3 (so I have enuf for two cycle’s in one bottle)
-Milk Thistle
-Multivitamin
-Creatine 7g/PWO
-Fish Oil 3g/day
then after 3 weeks of SD
-Terrestus Tribulus 2.5grams/day
- the others listed above without SD.
Also considering since its my first time using anything like SD, maybe do 10mg for 3 weeks. Which would allow three cycles per bottle. Gonna pick up some Red Yeast Rice CoQ10 as well. Any tips? thanks.
[quote]freejury wrote:
I dont have enough money to buy all the Biotest stuff, my planned supplements are:
-Superdrol 10mg week1/20mg week2-3 (so I have enuf for two cycle’s in one bottle)
-Milk Thistle
-Multivitamin
-Creatine 7g/PWO
-Fish Oil 3g/day
then after 3 weeks of SD
-Terrestus Tribulus 2.5grams/day
- the others listed above without SD.
Also considering since its my first time using anything like SD, maybe do 10mg for 3 weeks. Which would allow three cycles per bottle. Gonna pick up some Red Yeast Rice CoQ10 as well. Any tips? thanks.[/quote]
What is your plan for PCT?
[quote]freejury wrote:
I dont have enough money to buy all the Biotest stuff, my planned supplements are:
-Superdrol 10mg week1/20mg week2-3 (so I have enuf for two cycle’s in one bottle)
-Milk Thistle
-Multivitamin
-Creatine 7g/PWO
-Fish Oil 3g/day
then after 3 weeks of SD
-Terrestus Tribulus 2.5grams/day
- the others listed above without SD.
Also considering since its my first time using anything like SD, maybe do 10mg for 3 weeks. Which would allow three cycles per bottle. Gonna pick up some Red Yeast Rice CoQ10 as well. Any tips? thanks.[/quote]
i would bump the fish oil to at least 6g/day and make sure you use a better plan for PCT. if you dont want to use nolva then at least get something that others have had success with (ATD, some of the other AIs)
Maybe it would be a better idea to skip the Red Yeast and get nolva instead? Also if i had the source to get clomid or nolva which would be optimal?
My understanding is red yeast rice is being used during cycle and after to help lipid levels. Nolva will help restore lipid levels during PCT but red yeast rice taken during cycle will help protect them from getting so fucked up in the first place.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
freejury wrote:
Maybe it would be a better idea to skip the Red Yeast and get nolva instead? Also if i had the source to get clomid or nolva which would be optimal?
Both!
bushboy[/quote]
I’ve thought about this. Would you run the Clomid (Wks 1-2) up front and then follow up with the Nolva (Wks 3-5)? My understanding is that you wouldn’t want to run Clomid alone, but it wouldn’t definately give the “boys” a kick start back and that the Nolva is necessary to help lipid profiles recover.
I just wanted to add one suggestion that hasn’t been mentioned yet to all who might be planning to us SD: use something for blood pressure. I’m only on my 5th day, but my BP has gone skyhigh. I went from an avg of 108/64 to 145/72 on the third day. I didn’t think that I’d need anything for BP because my BP had always been low. Boy was I wrong. I started to get a bad headache at the end of the third day, so I took my bp, and picked up some hawthorne berry extract. The headache went away mostly, but it still midly there. Any suggestions to keep BP in check while on SD?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
daddymc wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
freejury wrote:
Maybe it would be a better idea to skip the Red Yeast and get nolva instead? Also if i had the source to get clomid or nolva which would be optimal?
Both!
bushboy
I’ve thought about this. Would you run the Clomid (Wks 1-2) up front and then follow up with the Nolva (Wks 3-5)? My understanding is that you wouldn’t want to run Clomid alone, but it wouldn’t definately give the “boys” a kick start back and that the Nolva is necessary to help lipid profiles recover.
Nolva apparently does have a more beneficial effect on lipid profiles (which is why it is a better long-term bet for CV health than an AI like A’dex), however it won’t give your HPTA the same surprise as clomid, making (in my opinion) clomid an ESSENTIAL component of PCT, even if it does have some emotional consequences - LMAO!
You can run clomid successfully by itself, though personally I would run 20mg nolva with my 100mg clomid for the fist 2 weeks, before switching to just nolva @ 60mg ED - basically as you’ve outlined…
bushboy[/quote]
Cool, Thanks for clearing that up. Do you have any experience with Raloxifene? It’s my understanding that one could substitute it for Nolva during a PCT cycle and that it is less likely to produce sides.
[quote]woolbeo wrote:
I just wanted to add one suggestion that hasn’t been mentioned yet to all who might be planning to us SD: use something for blood pressure. I’m only on my 5th day, but my BP has gone skyhigh. I went from an avg of 108/64 to 145/72 on the third day. I didn’t think that I’d need anything for BP because my BP had always been low. Boy was I wrong. I started to get a bad headache at the end of the third day, so I took my bp, and picked up some hawthorne berry extract. The headache went away mostly, but it still midly there. Any suggestions to keep BP in check while on SD? [/quote]
Hawthorne berry extract is the main supplement that I see people taking that are concerned about blood pressure. BP increase is a concern, and if you review my log, you’ll see that I took readings three or four times during my cycle to monitor it.