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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
KJ Bridgewater wrote:

  1. THE TUCK. Wonderbody Brady’s first superbowl. nuff said.

Again right call, stupid rule.
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First I question if it even was a tuck. I don’t think Brady fully brought the ball back in before he dropped it. Prior to that play I’ve never seen a “tuck” called in that situation. It was always called a fumble.

The NFL is on record as saying the call was incorrect.

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5. The more I think about it the worse those calls look against the Seagulls.

They wuz robbed![/quote]

That’s not as far from the truth as I’d like to think it is.

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I have to say a number of things about yesterdays game. I dont think either team deserved winning the superbowl. I think they both played horribly. In addition to that,

a- Reffing was absolutely disgusting, extreme bias,alot of bad calls against the Seahawks, honestly I dont really follow NFL, but I follow CFL and know rules for both the NFL and CFL. I cant say I watch any games except the Superbowl but it doesnt take a football analyst to say the game was poorly reff’d. I wont say the seahawks would have won it, but as I said both teams played poorly. The seahawks had trouble catching the ball, and the 2 kicks were off the mark and too many errors. I agree that the damn thing should be played over again, with better reffing and than we might have a game. Oh and also if the two teams decide to actually show us a real game…

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[quote]Kuz wrote:
pappapump wrote:
superbowls dont matter unless the cowboys win it.

Now that’s the kind of talk I like to see![/quote]

Me too. America’s team is the one that matters.

Did anybody else see the interview with Condoliza Rice where she said that baseball might be america’s pasttime, but football is america’s sport. I wonder if that is the administration’s stance.

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im amazed that some people actually think the game wasn’t fixed.

how many penalties did Pitt get? and how many penalties would they have gotten had the refs cared?

how many penalties did Sea get that wouldn’t have been called or would have been overturned in any other game?

RE: Sea domination

they most definately dominated (until officiating didn’t allow). of course, you’d have to have actually watched the game to tell. because, you know, that’s how you would have seen all that egregious officiating that kept them from getting in the endzone a few more times and disturbed momentum/morale.

oh, and kickers get payed to make extra points and 30ish yard field goals, not 50.

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Josh Brown and Jerramy Stevens were payed off, as were the referees.

And I’ll bet Carolina was paid off to let Seattle beat them so badly to make it to the SuperBowl…

And after the Steelers got in even though the refs were payed to screw them against Indi, I’ll bet the Broncos got paid off to let the Steelers roll all over them to get to the SuperBowl - that’s when the NFL Referees association decided that they were wrong to screw the Steelers against Indi, and compensated for it by throwing the game for the Steelers.

You people are out of your minds - refs make mistakes - nobody got screwed.

It’s just that the ‘underdog/fan favorite’ didn’t win.

Deal with it.

CR

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With all these excuses and bitching about the Seahawks getting robbed, maybe you should actually look at how poorly the Seahawks played.

The Steelers played the worst I’ve seen them play all season in 1st half, and the Seahawks could manage a measly field goal, from 47 yards nonetheless? If the Steelers had played that way in the 1st half against Indy, they would’ve been down by 4 touchdowns at the half.

The Seahawks had the league MVP and leading rusher, but abandoned the run in order to throw the ball over and over because they had success with it on their first 2 drives? Nice strategy…

The Seahawks had success with quick-outs and slants early on, but also abandoned that in order to throw deep to their inept tight end? Again, abandoning what has been working for you is just brilliant…

The Seahawks managed that game like a bunch of pee-wee players. The Steelers didn’t play anywhere near their ability, but they were a hell of a lot better than Seattle, so they deserved to win, stop bitching about the fucking refs already and take some responsibility for a team completely blowing it when they got to the ultimate goal…

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sorry i didn’t get a chance to read those posts because im impersonating a blind man.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
With all these excuses and bitching about the Seahawks getting robbed, maybe you should actually look at how poorly the Seahawks played.

The Steelers played the worst I’ve seen them play all season in 1st half, and the Seahawks could manage a measly field goal, from 47 yards nonetheless? If the Steelers had played that way in the 1st half against Indy, they would’ve been down by 4 touchdowns at the half.

The Seahawks had the league MVP and leading rusher, but abandoned the run in order to throw the ball over and over because they had success with it on their first 2 drives? Nice strategy…

The Seahawks had success with quick-outs and slants early on, but also abandoned that in order to throw deep to their inept tight end? Again, abandoning what has been working for you is just brilliant…

The Seahawks managed that game like a bunch of pee-wee players. The Steelers didn’t play anywhere near their ability, but they were a hell of a lot better than Seattle, so they deserved to win, stop bitching about the fucking refs already and take some responsibility for a team completely blowing it when they got to the ultimate goal…[/quote]

I dont know how much more simple this can be. WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE STEELERS OR THE SEAHAWKS. But, the refs were terrible. That’s all. Your team won? Fuckin great. Who cares? Go back to your shitty ass town, drive up and down the worst hilly streets I’ve ever seen. Maybe the celebration will inspire you people to go get your missing teeth replaced.

No one said the Seahawks played well. THE REFS BLEW…the same way they blew all season.

You win. The Steelers are the greatest team of all time…they would be Jesus, Moses, God, Satan and Eliteballa3 in a game.

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[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Go back to your shitty ass town, drive up and down the worst hilly streets I’ve ever seen. Maybe the celebration will inspire you people to go get your missing teeth replaced.
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Well, no reason to get personal! Can’t say that I think it is a shitty ass town. Those hills make for great:

  1. Entertainment on icy, stormy days (bumper cars down the street into other parked cars! … great fun with a beer or scotch in hand standing on a 2nd floor porch!).

  2. Hill sprints! 'nuff said.

  3. Very pretty hillsides in the fall (before the leaves disappear and reveal all the trash underneath).

Have you been to San Francisco? Coastal Sicily? Really, Pittsburgh’s hills seem tame in comparison.

The poor condition of the streets? Well, I have to agree there.

Now you’re talking.

Regards,
Mark

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
But, slighty off-topic…what did everybody think of the Stones?

I kinda thought they were the highlight of the whole shebang.[/quote]

I thought the Rolling Bones were alright. Mick was flaming like I’ve never seen before, I just wish they’d have played some different songs, like Jumpin Jack Flash or Brown Sugar.

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I know feanor.

I just get nuts when I see fans get all, well, fan-boy about football. Cracks me up…they act like they were on the field playing.

As a player, I hate refs. Always have, always will.

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I really suspect a lot of you guys have never played football and/or don’t know the rules. I don’t support either of these teams but you guys are exaggerating:

  1. The DJ push-off: He pushed off, simple as that. The replay showed him extending his arm and pushing off, right in front of the official. Why is this even a question? Because it “wasn’t that bad”? Give me a break, he pushed off.

  2. Locklear holding: He obviously held. He got horribly beat at the edge and held the defensive player. In fact, while the play was happening, I yelled at the screen “wow what a hold!” before the ball was even thrown.

If I could see it clearly from my couch I sure hope the officials could see it on the field. If anything the defensive player was offsides because he had an almost perfect jump on the snap…but to say he wasn’t held is ridiculous.

  1. Ben’s rushing TD: Looked pretty clear to me, and everyone watching, that the ball crossed the plain. What are people arguing about here?

  2. Holding call on the kick return: Again, another clear case of holding. You can make the argument that it didn’t affect the play, but he held nonetheless.

  3. Personal foul for blocking below the knees: Obviously a horrible call; the ref mistook his tackle for contact with a block. This was only 15 yards though and did not “lose the game for Seattle”.

The better team won.

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[quote]RickJames wrote:
Everybody get out your tin foil hats.

To me, the biggest poor call was the holding penalty that took away first and goal from the two yard line for the Seahawks. This turned the tide of the game tremendously. Other than that, I don’t think there were really any questionable calls that mattered, even though Seattle definitely got shafted on the calls as a whole.

The game would have been VERY different had this holding call not been made, and much likely more exciting (Steelers would have had to answer the score to win).

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How was the holding call a bad call when the player OBVIOUSLY HELD? My friend and I were talking about this earlier. We both saw this obvious hold, but we knew EVERYONE would be bitching because “holding” is an imaginary penalty to most people and if it happens to your team on a big play it was a “bad call”.

Seriously, can you explain what about calling an obvious hold is a bad call?

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[quote]Moriarty wrote:
How was the holding call a bad call when the player OBVIOUSLY HELD? My friend and I were talking about this earlier. We both saw this obvious hold, but we knew EVERYONE would be bitching because “holding” is an imaginary penalty to most people and if it happens to your team on a big play it was a “bad call”.

Seriously, can you explain what about calling an obvious hold is a bad call?[/quote]

Holding: "…Hand(s) thrust forward that slip outside the body of the defender will be legal if blocker worked to bring them back inside. Hand(s) or arm(s) that encircle a defender-i.e., hook an opponent-are to be considered illegal and officials are to call a foul for holding.

Blocker cannot use his hands or arms to push from behind, hang onto, or encircle an opponent in a manner that restricts his movement as the play develops."

Look at the play. Locklear was in front the whole time (off to the side a little but in between the defender and the quarterback) and had his blocking hand inside the shoulders the whole time. That was not a hold. You can lead the defender off to the side so he doesn’t collapse the pocket and its perfectly legal.

I do have to admit i’m a seachickens fan and was pissed about the officiating during the game, but i thought it was just my fan bias so it didn’t bother me too much. After hearing some non-hawks fans from around the country think the same thing though i’m starting to get pretty pissed off again.

Did anybody else catch Ben’s BLOCK below the knees on the Randle El pass? It was an actual BLOCK too, not a TACKLE!

Anyway, congratulations steelers. I guess i’m glad Bettis finally got a ring…

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How could there possibly be a payoff? The Rooneys squeeze a penny till Lincoln screams. Just ask any player that ever wanted a better contract.

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Il Cazzo,

I can understand brother.

I only played one year of football … but I played several years of the “other” football, as well as doing competitive judo … and I hate, hate, hate the fact that we have to subject ourselves to other fallible human beings (that aren’t competing and may never have!).

I mean in reality, in a gentleman’s game … a TD (or not) like Ben’s, we would say … “shit, that’s too close, let’s play it over” … alright … good luck to ya … we’re gonna drop you for a loss this time! Oh well.

Regards,
Mark

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
I know feanor.

I just get nuts when I see fans get all, well, fan-boy about football. Cracks me up…they act like they were on the field playing.

As a player, I hate refs. Always have, always will.[/quote]

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hmmm

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[quote]Feanor76 wrote:
Il Cazzo,

I can understand brother.

I only played one year of football … but I played several years of the “other” football, as well as doing competitive judo … and I hate, hate, hate the fact that we have to subject ourselves to other fallible human beings (that aren’t competing and may never have!).

I mean in reality, in a gentleman’s game … a TD (or not) like Ben’s, we would say … “shit, that’s too close, let’s play it over” … alright … good luck to ya … we’re gonna drop you for a loss this time! Oh well.

Regards,
Mark

IL Cazzo wrote:
I know feanor.

I just get nuts when I see fans get all, well, fan-boy about football. Cracks me up…they act like they were on the field playing.

As a player, I hate refs. Always have, always will.
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Ugh, give me a break. I don’t have to defend the Steelers, they obviously played the best throughout the playoffs and the super bowl, so they won. Yes, I’m happy. Yes, the refs sucked, just like they have all season to EVERY team, they didn’t just single out the shitty Seahawks.

I played football at a pretty high level too, for a team notorious for getting screwed by the refs, and the only thing I found more annoying than the refs blowing calls was people complaining about it over and over and over…

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[quote]Moriarty wrote:
I really suspect a lot of you guys have never played football and/or don’t know the rules. I don’t support either of these teams but you guys are exaggerating:

  1. The DJ push-off: He pushed off, simple as that. The replay showed him extending his arm and pushing off, right in front of the official. Why is this even a question? Because it “wasn’t that bad”? Give me a break, he pushed off.

  2. Locklear holding: He obviously held. He got horribly beat at the edge and held the defensive player. In fact, while the play was happening, I yelled at the screen “wow what a hold!” before the ball was even thrown.

If I could see it clearly from my couch I sure hope the officials could see it on the field. If anything the defensive player was offsides because he had an almost perfect jump on the snap…but to say he wasn’t held is ridiculous.

  1. Ben’s rushing TD: Looked pretty clear to me, and everyone watching, that the ball crossed the plain. What are people arguing about here?

  2. Holding call on the kick return: Again, another clear case of holding. You can make the argument that it didn’t affect the play, but he held nonetheless.

  3. Personal foul for blocking below the knees: Obviously a horrible call; the ref mistook his tackle for contact with a block. This was only 15 yards though and did not “lose the game for Seattle”.

The better team won. [/quote]

Have you seen the game?

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:

I played football at a pretty high level too, for a team notorious for getting screwed by the refs[/quote]

By this definition, you could have played for any team, in any sport, in any country in the world.

DB